[Diabetes-talk] What can we do?

Wed Feb 11 22:52:51 UTC 2009

well what about paying a free for it, I realize it is expensive to produce. 
if we have over 300,000 in circulation, if we charged $1 per person per year 
or at least $1.50
Cheryl Echevarria

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "catdancing" <catdancing at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] What can we do?

> that sounds like a good idea Ellian but then again would take time and i'm
> not so sure the medical field would bother to take the time
> Debbie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] What can we do?
>
>
> > Sheryl:
> >
> > I'm not saying to not send it to medical professionals, just that I 
> > think
> > it's fair to have them pay for the subscription.  More than likely, they
> > can even write it off as either a business expense or charitable
> > contribution. And then to, if it was in a down-loadable version they 
> > could
> > print it out or copy onto CD for those patients who would find it 
> > helpful.
> > I only raised the question because the negative amount quoted was so 
> > huge,
> > and I am wondering how it got so out of control!
> >
> > Eileen
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] What can we do?
> >
> >
> >>I found out about DAN through the voice at my dialysis center, and that 
> >>is
> >>how I found out about the NFB, if they want more members, you have to 
> >>have
> >>it out there.
> >>
> >> Cheryl Echevarria
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> >> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:10 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] What can we do?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Debbie:
> >>>
> >>> This raises a few more questions.  I understand that people who are
> >>> blind
> >>> are on limited incomes and may not be able to afford to pay for a
> >>> subscription to the Voice, but what about Doctor's, hospital's & other
> >>> medical professionals?  Certainly, they can afford to pay a 
> >>> subscription
> >>> fee.  Out of the circulation numbers, how many go to people who are
> >>> blind
> >>> and may not be able to cover the cost of a subscription & how many go 
> >>> to
> >>> medical professionals?  Do doctor's give away services for free?  I
> >>> think
> >>> not.
> >>>
> >>> And, why increase the cost of the publication with color pictures?
> >>> Isn't
> >>> the mag primarily for those who are blind?  Perhaps the focus has
> >>> changed
> >>> somewhere along the line from presenting good information to the
> >>> blind/vi
> >>> community to trying to attract sighted readers?
> >>>
> >>> Eileen
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "catdancing" <catdancing at sbcglobal.net>
> >>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:11 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] What can we do?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > this just seems to figure as far as diabetes and anything related to
> >>> > the
> >>> > disease that doesn't bring in a lot of money to support the disease.
> >>> > The
> >>> > Voice is a great magazine the reason it is being eliminated is 
> >>> > because
> >>> > it
> >>> > is helpful and no one in the medical field is making a huge profit
> >>> > from
> >>> > it.
> >>> > Debbie
> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> > From: "Elizabeth Lunt " <boo.lunt at verizon.net>
> >>> > To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:49 PM
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] What can we do?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> Hello All,
> >>> >> I feel I must finally write in here. The cost of the Voice of the
> >>> >> Diabetic
> >>> >> has not "skyrocketed" and I'm not sure where this information is
> >>> >> coming
> >>> >> from. Even with the much-improved design and full color, the costs
> >>> >> were
> >>> >> controlled, and money was coming in from ads and sponsorships.
> >>> >> However,
> >>> >> it
> >>> >> simply costs a lot to print and ship so many copies -- our
> >>> >> circulation
> >>> >> for
> >>> >> Voice of the Diabetic is over 300 thousand copies per quarter. It 
> >>> >> was
> >>> >> very
> >>> >> popular among readers and diabetes educators and demand was high.
> >>> >> Gathering
> >>> >> the information, selling advertisements and getting education 
> >>> >> grants,
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> writing and editing the publication accounted for staff members'
> >>> >> time, as
> >>> >> well as other diabetes advocacy activities such as pushing for
> >>> >> accessible
> >>> >> diabetes technology. Dr. Maurer has made a decision to cut the 
> >>> >> entire
> >>> >> Diabetes Initiatives project, which included publishing Voice of 
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> Diabetic. He has said that some diabetes activities will be folded
> >>> >> into
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> duties of existing staff at the NFB, but the rest of us have been 
> >>> >> let
> >>> >> go.
> >>> >> We
> >>> >> did the best we could to present up-to-date, helpful and inspiring
> >>> >> information about both diabetes and coping with diabetes with 
> >>> >> limited
> >>> >> or
> >>> >> no
> >>> >> vision. There will not be another issue of the magazine, because 
> >>> >> Dr.
> >>> >> Maurer
> >>> >> made his decision after the Winter issue went out, and he is 
> >>> >> folding
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> project now, before another would have gone out in the spring.
> >>> >> Thank you for your support over the years. I have enjoyed working 
> >>> >> on
> >>> >> this
> >>> >> publication. I hope you will get the full story, or try to, before
> >>> >> continuing this conversation with NFB leadership.
> >>> >> All the best,
> >>> >> Elizabeth Lunt
> >>> >> Editor, Voice of the Diabetic
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >>> >> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> >> Blindhands at aol.com
> >>> >> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:17 PM
> >>> >> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> >>> >> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] What can we do?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Diabetes is the number 1 cause of blindness in the USA.  It ranks 
> >>> >> up
> >>> >> there
> >>> >> throughout the world.  What can we do to stop or have them at least
> >>> >> consider
> >>> >> another  way of continuing the Voice of the Diabetic  publication.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> NFB is always asking us to contact our Senators and House of
> >>> >> Representative
> >>> >>
> >>> >> members, how about calling or emailing our President of NFB  to
> >>> >> "Voice"
> >>> >> our
> >>> >> opinion and thoughts on this?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The blind depend on word of mouth to learn about things, that is 
> >>> >> why
> >>> >> we
> >>> >> are
> >>> >>
> >>> >> encouraged to talk about NFB to everyone blind and sighted.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I understand that the cost of the publication has sky rocketed, but
> >>> >> do we
> >>> >> need color photos and the new look of the Voice?  I am sure those 
> >>> >> are
> >>> >> some
> >>> >> of
> >>> >> the reasons that caused the price  to soar.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I am disappointed with this decision.  I do know that there has 
> >>> >> been
> >>> >> concerns in the past years about the  money going  out for this
> >>> >> publication
> >>> >> and the
> >>> >> NFB covering the  cost.          the circulation of  this 
> >>> >> publication
> >>> >> is
> >>> >> over
> >>> >> three hundred thousand .
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Mike, do you know if there will be a notice put into the Voice and
> >>> >> will
> >>> >> there be a final Voice sent out or is it just over like that ?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Joyce
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> >>> >> just
> >>> >> 2
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