[Diabetes-talk] Question

The Jacobs' Family bandbjacobs at verizon.net
Mon Feb 23 15:33:48 UTC 2009


Good Morning Paul:

A "food plan is absolutely paramount!!!

Are you a print or Braille reader?  I didn't remember if you were totally 
blind or what.  We do have "Diabetic Food Exchange" lists at the National 
Center which are extremely helpful.  It's a list of foods with their fat 
content, food value, carbs, and the like and it will tell you how you can 
substitute some foods with others and can be used as a Carb-Counting 
instrument.  Works pretty well.  You might want to call the center.  I know 
those lists are in Print and Braille, but I don't remember if they're on 
cassette or not.  You can call: 410-659-9314 and get the "Independence 
Market" at 2216 for more information.

Have a great day everybody!!

Bern
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>   1. Re: FW: Foot Cream Offers Relief for People with Diabetes
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>   2. Re: question (Ed Bryant)
>   3. Insulin pen study at the NFB Convention (Ann Williams)
>   4. Re: FW: Foot Cream Offers Relief for People with Diabetes
>      (d m gina)
>   5. Re: DAN Seminar Speaker (Mike Freeman)
>   6. Re: FW: Foot Cream Offers Relieffor People with Diabetes
>      (Donna Miller)
>   7. Re: DAN Seminar Speaker (d m gina)
>   8. Re: question (Mike Freeman)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:20:25 -0600
> From: "Ed Bryant" <ebryant at socket.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Foot Cream Offers Relief for People
> with Diabetes
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> Dar,
> The post said in part "HealthiFeetT comes in 1.8 OZ (MSRP$9.99) and
> 4 OZ (MSRP$19.99) tubes." The 1.8 ounce tube is slightly less than one 
> half
> of the tube which contains 4 ounces.  I hope this answers your question.
>
> Regards,
> Ed Bryant
>
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> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:24 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Foot Cream Offers Relief for People with
> Diabetes
>
> I am confused on the prices of this cream.
> Also would this be able to be paid for with your insurance?
> Or because it is over the counter you must pay it yourself?
> Is four ounces larger than eight ounces?
>
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> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:20:42 -0600
> From: "Ed Bryant" <ebryant at socket.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question
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> Hi Paul,
> You should definitely have a food plan as we should all strive to
> keep our diabetes in check.  Apparently, the CDE you went to does not
> understand blindness, and does not realize that blindness is not 
> synonymous
> with inability.
> My wife and I are totally blind and sometimes I face issues in which
> sighted health professionals don't understand I can do pretty much 
> anything
> concerning my diabetes without sight.
> So, please let me know where you live, and I will let you know if I
> know any health professionals in your area.  Also, the Mayo Clinic in
> Rochester, Minnesota publishes "Your Diabetes Diet: Exchange Lists."  This
> publication is in frames, so you may not be able to read it, but you can
> find it at http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes-diet/DA00077.
> Incidentally, I have had diabetes for about 50 years and I find it
> to be a nuisance, but a condition that can be managed.
> Also, if you would like me to telephone you, please, send your phone
> number and where you live in a private email, I will call.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ed Bryant
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul & Paula Jordan
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:09 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] question
>
> As I mentioned in my intro to the group a few days ago, I've been 
> diagnosed
> as diabetic for almost 3 months, and have had meter issues,
>
> Which I think are being fixed today.  My next issue has to do with whether
> or not I should have a food plan.  I have met for 4 times with a cde, but
> she hasn't said anything about this.
>
> When I was first diagnosed, I began to read everything I could get my 
> hands
> on, and, now I feel almost like a "duck out of water."
>
> The view seems to be that all blind people have sighted caregivers, and, I
> don't have any idea where this comes from.  When I tell them that I don't
> have sighted help,
>
> They throw up their hands in astonishment, and quickly fade away not 
> knowing
> what to do.
>
> Is the lack of a food plan a real concern, and if so, are there places to
> contact for this type of help.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Paul
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> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:31:33 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ann Williams <clevelandann at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pen study at the NFB Convention
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> If
> you are attending the 2009 NFB Convention and you have had diabetes for 
> more
> than one year, you are invited to participate in a research study about 
> the
> accuracy of dosing with an insulin pen after receiving detailed
> instructions.? For this study, I need to
> recruit 40 blind people with diabetes and 40 sighted people with diabetes.
>
> The
> study will involve the following steps:
>
> Before
>     the convention, I will call you and ask you several questions to make 
> sure
>     you meet the requirements of the study.At
>     the convention, you will need to sign an informed consent form.You
>     will be given an appointment time to come to the study room.? All 
> blind people in this study will listen
>     to a recording of audio instructions in the use of an insulin pen, and
>     sighted people in this study will look at visual instructions.? 
> Everyone will have a chance to handle a
>     pen and pen supplies, and may take as much time with the instructions,
>     pens, and supplies as they wish, until they feel confident that they 
> know
>     how to use the pen.? Each
>     person will be asked deliver ten specific doses of insulin into an
>     injection ball ? a rubber ball commonly used to teach insulin 
> injections.A
>     research assistant will weigh the injection ball immediately before 
> and
>     immediately after delivery of the insulin, to find out exactly how 
> much
>     insulin was delivered.? The
>     assistant will keep a record of all doses delivered.
>
> Please note:?
> If you participate in this study, you will not inject insulin into
> yourself.? You will only learn how to use
> a pen and inject doses into an injection ball.
>
> You
> will receive no direct benefits for participating in the study.
>
> As
> a way of thanking you for your time and participation in the feasibility 
> study,
> you will receive a $10 gift certificate for WalMart after you complete 
> steps
> 1-5 outlined above.? If you do not
> complete steps 1-5, you will not receive the gift card.
>
> You
> may decide that you do not want to participate in this study for any 
> reason at
> all, and you do not need to explain your reason.? This would not affect 
> you negatively in any
> way.? In particular, your decision would
> not affect your relationship with the NFB, with Case Western Reserve
> University, or with the researcher, Ann Williams.
>
> Are
> you willing to participate in this study??
> Or do you have further questions about this study?? If so, please contact 
> the researcher:
>
> Ann S. Williams,
> PhD, RN, CDE
>
> Email: ann.s.williams at case.edu
>
> Case Western
> Reserve University
>
> Cleveland,
> Ohio? 44106
>
> Phone:? 216-368-1704
>
> ?
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:41:12 -0500
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Foot Cream Offers Relief for People
> with Diabetes
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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> I am more confused as before.
> Why is a four ounce tube $19 and the eiht ounce $9.99.
> It seems to me that it should be turned around.
> Since I am confused,
> I probably wouldn't buy it.
> thanks for trying.
>
> -- 
> --Dar
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:23:50 -0800
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] DAN Seminar Speaker
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> Those who come to convention and who wish to join DAN would pay. Those
> not going to convention but who wish to join DAN would send dues to its
> Treasurer, Joy Stigile. You wouldn't have to pay dues if you just wish
> to participate on Diabetes-Talk. WE (NFB) have never charged for access
> to our lists and I doubt we ever will. But most divisions of NFB collect
> dues to transact their business and I believe that DAN should also,
> particularly in these days of economic down-turn.
>
> Mike
>
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> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] DAN Seminar Speaker
>
>
> Is this something you are asking for this list to have dues?
> Is this something you will ask for at convention?
> Just wanted to ask?
> Can you do this when you are just doing emails?
> I also am on nagdu where I haven't paid dues but am allowed to read
> what they are doing?
>
> -- 
> --Dar
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:18:13 -0600
> From: "Donna Miller" <dmiller64 at tx.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Foot Cream Offers Relieffor People
> with Diabetes
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> I've got some foot cream that I use that has an Antibiotic that works 
> really well.
>
> I had a rash of some kind on my left foot and was able to get rid of it 
> using this cream.
>
>
> Donna Miller
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>  From: d m gina
>  To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:41 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] FW: Foot Cream Offers Relieffor People with 
> Diabetes
>
>
>  I am more confused as before.
>  Why is a four ounce tube $19 and the eiht ounce $9.99.
>  It seems to me that it should be turned around.
>  Since I am confused,
>  I probably wouldn't buy it.
>  thanks for trying.
>
>  -- 
>  --Dar
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:18:26 -0500
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] DAN Seminar Speaker
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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> I understand what you are saying.
> One of the things that gets me going to the conventions, you need money
> for food for getting to and from air port, for hotel and then and then
> and then.
> I just don't know how everyone can come up with this every year.
> Oh me.
> all in my dreams.
> then after a week it is all over.
> I would love to meet people,
> but to think I spent so much for one week is over whelming.
> Just my thoughts.
>
> -- 
> --Dar
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:34:56 -0800
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> Paul:
>
> What an outrage! I realize that my words may seem injudicious to legal
> eagles but I am moved to wonder how that CDE can claim that credential
> and sleep with a clean conscience at night having treated you so
> cavalierly. Your CDE should have arranged for you to work with a
> dietitian specializing in meal planning for diabetics so that said
> dietitian and you together could work out a meal plan that you both
> could live with and that would assist in your diabetes care.
>
> In a word, Type 2 diabetes (which I presume you have) is a disorder
> wherein your body either makes insufficient insulin or does not use well
> the insulin that *is* made in order to get glucose (a simple sugar) from
> the blood into your body's cells so that they can have energy to do
> their thing. Ultimately, it's more complex than this but that's the
> essence. The nutrition category that raises one's blood glucose the most
> in general is that of carbohydrates so that one must balance how much,
> when and what one eats with how much energy one expends (as in exercise)
> and how much, if any, medication one takes to keep one's blood glucose
> at a near-normal level or as close to is as your doctor thinks you can
> handle. You therefore need an eating plan.
>
> If you click on http://www.eatright.org you can find a dietitian in your
> area, hopefully one who specializes in dealing with diabetic
> meal-planning. If you go to my home page, that is,
> http://www.panix.com/~k7uij. you'll find links to a number of very
> useful resources that will tell you everything you could ever want or
> need to know about diabetes and then some.
>
> One of the links is to Gary Scheiner's site, Integrated Diabetes
> Services, that actually can consult with you on all aspects of diabetes
> care including, I suspect, meal-planning, either on-line or over the
> telephone, for a fee, of course.
>
> Which brings me to my next question: what, if any, health insurance do
> you have? I know that mine, Regence BlueCross, has advocate nurses who
> would assist me in gaining any help I needed if I asked them. Most
> mainline health insurance providers have something of the sort.
>
> I can't believe your CDE seems as paralyzed re blindness as you make her
> (I presume it's a her) out to be! Although medical privacy probably
> precludes me talking about your specific case with the CDE, perhaps I
> can intervene to offer the resources of NFB and the Diabetes Action
> Network to enlighten her a bit on blindness. Also (although I can't
> guarantee this), we may have a DAN member in your area who can help you
> with a bit of local advocacy.
>
> If you write me privately at my email address,
>
> k7uij at panix.com
>
> with your telephone number, I'd be glad to call you and talk with you at
> length about diabetes, diabetes care, the universe and everything.
>
> Ed Bryant is also a fount of information.
>
> You have a right to expect the same level of diabetes care as would
> anyone else who is sighted. In fact, it's vital; diabetes is one of
> those diseases that is controllable and said control is largely in the
> hands of the patient. But not controlling diabetes can lead to some
> rather unpleasant consequences in the long run.
>
> If you are a subscriber to the NLS talking book program, may I recommend
> Gretchen Becker's book: "The First Year; Type Two Diabetes: A Guide for
> the Newly-diagnosed". If you are a subscriber to the digital talking
> book download pilot, you can download it along with a plethora of other
> good books on diabetes including the guides of the Joslin Diabetes
> Center and the American Diabetes Association (these are available on
> cassette, too, I should imagine, but I grabbed them from the digital
> download site).
>
> Rest assured that you're not alone; what you're going through happened
> to all of us at one point except that you're getting the "helpless blind
> person" syndrome thrown in. We'll work through this together if you wish
> and assist you to advocate for yourself and to get the good diabetes
> care and advice you need. With it, you can live a normal, healthy life
> and, under almost all circumstances, diabetes, like blindness, can be
> reduced to the level of an infernal nuisance!
>
> We're with you.
>
> Warmly,
>
> Mike Freeman, President
> Diabetes Action Network
> National Federation of the Blind
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul & Paula Jordan" <paujor at fuse.net>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:09 AM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] question
>
>
> As I mentioned in my intro to the group a few days ago, I've been
> diagnosed
> as diabetic for almost 3 months, and have had meter issues,
>
> Which I think are being fixed today.  My next issue has to do with
> whether
> or not I should have a food plan.  I have met for 4 times with a cde,
> but
> she hasn't said anything about this.
>
> When I was first diagnosed, I began to read everything I could get my
> hands
> on, and, now I feel almost like a "duck out of water."
>
> The view seems to be that all blind people have sighted caregivers, and,
> I
> don't have any idea where this comes from.  When I tell them that I
> don't
> have sighted help,
>
> They throw up their hands in astonishment, and quickly fade away not
> knowing
> what to do.
>
> Is the lack of a food plan a real concern, and if so, are there places
> to
> contact for this type of help.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
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