[Diabetes-talk] Any Suggestions... and Insulin Pens...
cheryl echevarria
cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
Sat Jan 24 10:34:09 UTC 2009
Bern: now which insurance are you talking about if it is hmos they ususally
have a 90 day supplier which I have and pay the same amount that I would pay
for insulin that I do for as many pens that the doctor prescribes. Again if
there are insurance questions please ask.
I work in the medical insurance field and I also know a lot more than what
the suppliers says, they tell you what they tell you and not what the
insurance says.
Cheryl Echevarria
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Jacobs' Family" <bandbjacobs at verizon.net>
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Any Suggestions... and Insulin Pens...
> Yah Guys!!! I'm doubling up on this one. First of all, I'd like to
> discuss
> the "Voice" cases. I know it's a little bulkier. But when I'm traveling,
> I've simply invested in another small travel bag... Ya know, like the
> small
> bags one can buy for cosmetics/shaving materials, and such? I just toss
> the
> thing right into my briefcase. If I'm doing short distances, where I
> might
> be out for just a few hours, I simply throw the meter in the cheap case
> with
> the strips and supplies I need for just a few hours in my purse. If I'm
> flying somewhere, I simply have a larger insulated bag in which I can
> stick
> my meter and all of my supplies, along with my meds for the week or so,
> like
> going to Convention. I never allow my meds and those things under the
> belly
> in luggage in case the luggage gets lost. I have even gotten a signed
> note
> from my doctor, on their letterhead that states that I'm a diabetic and
> that
> I "NEED" a separate carry-on for my meds and supplies. We were okay, even
> when Bill and I traveled abroad to get both children in China and
> Thailand.
> I simply showed the doctor's note and no questions were asked after that,
> (Thankfully!!!) My bag was large enough, of course, because Bill also has
> injected meds...Not for diabetes, of course. Besides, having one of those
> travel bags just helps me keep all that stuff more organized. Can't stand
> it when it's not organized!!! Gotta have everything together!!!
>
> Now folks, onto the Insulin Pens... Let me forewarn you folks about
> something I learned the hard way. For example: I happen to use Novo Log
> 70/30. When I was using the pens, sure, I found the pens to be extremely
> accurate. One thing about the pens, however, is that each pen contains
> 300
> units of insulin. So, if you add that up, in a box of five pens, one has
> 1500 units. So, in mathematical terms, you have 1500 units there.
>
> Now, if one simply purchases the good "old fashioned" vials of insulin,
> one
> will find that each vial contains an even 1000 units of insulin. If one
> uses two vials of insulin--2000 units monthly, the bill runs about 400
> bucks. For a box of five pens, the price is nearly 1200 bucks. That's
> 2/3
> higher than using the vials. If anyone canwatch what one spends for
> insurance purposes, especially when one has to live by the limitations
> placed upon one by the insurance companies, if one uses the pens, one
> reaches the coverage limitations real, real fast! Unfortunately folks,
> one
> gets more for the money using the old vials and syringes. I guess it
> depends on what one is willing to sacrifice...Convenience, or stretching
> the
> meds for the amount of money one can spend. Nobody tells ya that though.
> So, I just figure it's my duty. I'm trying to prevent as many of you from
> hitting that hard school of knocks the way I did!!!
>
> Bern
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> > 1. Re: Any suggestions appreciated (dmgina)
> > 2. Re: Pharmacology of Glargine (dmgina)
> > 3. Re: Insulin pens (Mike Freeman)
> > 4. Re: Insulin pens (Mike Freeman)
> > 5. Re: Insulin pens (dmgina)
> > 6. Re: Any suggestions appreciated (Mike Freeman)
> > 7. Re: Pharmacology of Glargine (Mike Freeman)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:42:59 -0700
> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Any suggestions appreciated
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Message-ID: <587C3B34FE0E4C9A871FF477917987A0 at DG28KX51>
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> > reply-type=original
> >
> > I put my machine in a different case for the same reasons.
> > I also turn off the speech.
> > that helps some but it will beep.
> > I would love to see a case where I could put my pin in the same case,
> > and
> > not have to carry around two cases.
> > that just drives me nuts.
> >
> > --Dar
> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> > Every saint has a past
> > every sinner has a future
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Anspach" <danspach at tampabay.rr.com>
> > To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Any suggestions appreciated
> >
> >
> >> Hello everyone,
> >> I can attest to the same results with the Prodigy Voice as Mike does
> >> below.
> >> I have had my meter since late last summer and have had very consistent
> >> readings throughout. I have taken this meter on a few trips and it
> >> works
> >> great. The only thing I can say that I don't like about the meter is
> >> it's
> >> relatively flimsy case. The case is not sturdy enough to prevent the
> >> meter
> >> from being turned on accidentally while being stored in a carry on bag,
> >> back
> >> pack etc. Outside of that, I highly recommend this meter. I know that
> >> Executive Products makes a great line of leather cases for cell phones,
> >> mp3
> >> players and more, but I'm wondering if anyone has thought to contact
> >> them
> >> about making a sturdier case for the Voice?
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:52 PM
> >> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> >> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Any suggestions appreciated
> >>
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> At first, Prodigy had some quality control problems with meter
> >> manufacture.
> >> However, my experience is that these were solved relatively quickly
> >> except
> >> for a calendar software glitch that no longer matters as we're past
> >> February
> >> 29, 2008. I have had consistent results with the Voice, the only
> >> inconsistencies being an occasional reading that is too low, not to
> >> high,
> >> because of insufficient blood.
> >>
> >> I believe I know what your problem is re strip insertion. I suspect
> >> you're
> >> just aiming generally at the slot and inserting the strip. This can
> >> give
> >> inconsistent results as you discovered. The *right* way to do this is
> >> to
> >> make sure as you insert the strip that it is *all* the way to the
> >> bottom
> >> of
> >> the squarish slot side of the clamshell so that it rests on the plastic
> >> at
> >> the bottom of the square as it goes in. I had problems initially until
> >> I
> >> discovered this. I haven't had a misfire in hundreds of tests since.
> >> The
> >> system isn't quite as foolproof as the slot in the Autocode but the
> >> added
> >> accessibility is worth it and, as I say, if you make sure the strip
> >> slides
> >> in resting on the plastic, i.e., held in the squared groove, I'm
> >> certain
> >> you'll get consistent results every time.
> >>
> >> Mike Freeman
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Nefertiti Matos Olivares" <nmatos at panix.com>
> >> To: <blind-diabetics at yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:26 AM
> >> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Any suggestions appreciated
> >>
> >>
> >> List:
> >>
> >> My experience with the Prodigy Voice meter has been questionable at
> >> best.
> >> I write this E-mail to whoever may have a suggestion(s) for my problem.
> >> As
> >> a preface, my apologies for the longish explanation.
> >>
> >> My mother purchased the Prodigy Voice for me close to a year ago. At
> >> first, it seemed like a good way to give my vision-impaired eyes a rest
> >> from the hard-to-see meter I had at the time. Other than being a bit
> >> difficult to get it to respond once a strip was inserted, (usually took
> >> 2-4 removals and reinsertions to get the Prodigy functioning) I was
> >> pretty
> >> satisfied. That quickly changed when, due to over-dosing Insulin, I
> >> experienced several frightening lows.
> >>
> >> Thinking that I had perhaps altered something in myself to cause the
> >> lows,
> >> I decided to double-check with my previous meter. The Contour gave
> >> consistent results which were on average 50-60 points lower than the
> >> Prodigy. The contour numbers were what both my Diabetes team and I had
> >> come to expect of my diet and Insulin therapy.
> >>
> >> Because I wanted to continue using the Prodigy, my doctor suggested
> >> that
> >> I
> >> call the supplier and explain the situation. My explanation was
> >> received
> >> with a "Hmm.That's odd. Well how's about we send you a new meter while
> >> we
> >> look into this issue?" I accepted and a week later I had a brand-new
> >> meter
> >> in my hands.
> >>
> >> Being of a suspicious nature, I tested the morning after with both
> >> meters.
> >> There was a big difference in readings. I have repeated the process for
> >> weeks now and the result remains the same. I hesitate to use the
> >> Prodigy
> >> as my main meter for obvious reasons.
> >>
> >> Might any of you fine people have a suggestion as to what I ought to do
> >> next? I am this close to returning the meter and the loads of strips I
> >> have but I just wanted to run it by more experienced diabetics first.
> >>
> >> Thank you for taking the time to read and respond should you be so
> >> inclined.
> >>
> >> Nef
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:44:10 -0700
> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Pharmacology of Glargine
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Message-ID: <CB1CE51376244502863834DE61C2A21A at DG28KX51>
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> > reply-type=original
> >
> > Ok I didn't understand all of this,
> > can you put it into English for me please?
> > thanks,
> >
> > --Dar
> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> > Every saint has a past
> > every sinner has a future
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> > To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:26 PM
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Pharmacology of Glargine
> >
> >
> >> Hi, everyone!
> >>
> >> Yesterday, I was looking at the lantus website, http://www.lantus.com
> >> and
> >> became intrigued by the pharmacology of lantus. This long-lasting basal
> >> insulin, when injected, has a pH of 4 which makes it mildly acidic.
> >> Under
> >> this circumstance, lantus is water-soluble and thus is injected easily.
> >> Once under the skin, however, the solution is almost immediately
> >> nutralized (pH of 7) and is no longer water-soluble and thus comes out
> >> as
> >> a precipitate that releases its insulin over the next 24 hours.
> >>
> >> My hat is off to whomever came up with this clever notion of how to
> >> make
> >> a
> >> long-lasting, peakless insulin. Wish I had that kind of imagination!
> >>
> >> Mike Freeman
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:13:45 -0800
> > From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Message-ID: <20090123031345.k7uij at panix.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > HMMM! I don't quite get it. Run through that again.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "catdancing" <catdancing at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Monday, Jan 19, 2009 6:33:16
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> also with an insulin pen if u don't have the amount u need left in the
> >> pen
> >> the instructions say to throw it away and start a new one that could
> >> get
> >> expensive.or u can open a new pen an withdrawl the rest of what is
> >> needed
> >> for your injection.this is done before placing the needle on the new
> >> pen.this in on the pens that aredisposable not the refillable cartridge
> >> ones. but the same procedure using a different cartridge can be used
> >> with
> >> the cartridge pens. i have used both.
> >> Debbie
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> >> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:38 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >>
> >>
> >> > There are also disposable recepticles that I get from the pharmacy
> >> > which
> >> > is safer than just uncrewing the top of the pen, it is put out b-d
> >> > and
> >> > on
> >> > the top of the contained are 2 holes one is to get rip of the screw
> >> > top
> >> > of
> >> > the pen and the part that covered the needles the other hole is to
> >> > stick
> >> > the pen it self at a 45 degress angle and insert the needles, which
> >> > has
> >> > the threads that match the needle and you twist to uncrew the needle
> >> > and
> >> > it falls into the container without sticking yourself.
> >> >
> >> > Cheryl Echevarria
> >> > Treasurer
> >> > National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> >> > Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Mike Freeman<mailto:k7uij at panix.com>
> >> > To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:56 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Diane:
> >> >
> >> > I can give you a generic answer but to be truly helpful, it might be
> >> > nice to know what aspects of insulin pens and pen use you are
> >> > wondering
> >> > about.
> >> >
> >> > In general, insulin pens look like and are about the size of an
> >> > old-fashioned fountain pen. You take the cap half off and the
> >> > exposed
> >> > end has threads upon which you screw an insulin pen needle assembly.
> >> > You
> >> > then tug on this assembly a bit and the needle cap comes off,
> >> > leaving
> >> > only a slim plastic cylinder covering the needle. You pull this off
> >> > exposing the needle.
> >> >
> >> > On the other end of the pen is a dial which you turn to set the
> >> > dose.
> >> > Usually, there's one click per unit of insulin although some pens
> >> > click
> >> > in half-units and some in two-unit steps.
> >> >
> >> > To give yourself a shot, manufacturers tell you to dial in 2 units
> >> > and
> >> > then push the plunger (usually part of the dial apparatus) and
> >> > insulin
> >> > will squirt into the air. This is to get rid of air in the needle.
> >> > However, if one is giving oneself a dose over 5 units, it is
> >> > possible
> >> > to
> >> > dispense with the air shot even though manufacturers don't recommend
> >> > it
> >> > (yet some engineers working for manufacturers will say this also).
> >> >
> >> > You then dial up the dose, pinch up your skin, insert the needle and
> >> > push down the plunger just as you do with a syringe. You then put
> >> > the
> >> > larger needle cap on, unscrew the needle, put the pen cap back on
> >> > and
> >> > voila, it looks like a fountain pen again.
> >> >
> >> > Pens come in two flavors -- disposable and refillable. The
> >> > refillable
> >> > pens have cartridges which you put in the pens and use until the
> >> > insulin
> >> > in the cartridge has been used, whereupon you throw the used
> >> > cartridges
> >> > away and insert new full ones. The exact mechanism of cartridge
> >> > insertion depends upon which pen you're using.
> >> >
> >> > Disposable pens are pre-filled; you use them until all the insulin
> >> > is
> >> > gone and throw them away.
> >> >
> >> > Pens can have rapid-acting, intermediate-acting and long-acting or
> >> > basal
> >> > insulins; exactly what insulins are available in what pens can be
> >> > garnered from the manufacturer. I'm pretty certain that Novo
> >> > Nordisk's
> >> > Novolog comes in both disposable pens and cartridges for the NovoPen
> >> > III; one can get a Novolin 70/30 mix for the NovoPen III "Penfill"
> >> > cartridges also.
> >> >
> >> > Lilly has Humalog in disposable pens and Sonophie Aventis has lantus
> >> > available in a cartridge pen (the OptiClik) and in a disposable (the
> >> > SoloStar).
> >> >
> >> > In the beginning, I think many Americans were worried that insulin
> >> > pens
> >> > might be inaccurate; in truth, they are ininv* accurate and are
> >> > extremely convenient to use. Diabetics in Europe have been using
> >> > them
> >> > for years; they're just now really catching on over here in the
> >> > States.
> >> >
> >> > That's a general overview. I highly recommend pens. I own a
> >> > Count-a-dose
> >> > so could use syringes if I had to but I'm quite content with pens.
> >> >
> >> > Let me know what I haven't answered.
> >> >
> >> > HTH!
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Diane"
> >> > <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com<mailto:dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>>
> >> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind"
> >> > <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:33 PM
> >> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I know we have discussed this subject many times, but often you
> >> > don't
> >> > pay attention until it begins to impact your life. My Dad is
> >> > looking
> >> > into the pens, and I was just wondering what y'all can tell me about
> >> > them.
> >> > Thank you!
> >> > Diane
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> >> >
> >> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:13:49 -0800
> > From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Message-ID: <20090123031349.k7uij at panix.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > I get the purpose of the second hole. But why the first?
> >
> > The only times I've stuck myself were when Mr. Coordination here poked
> > himself in the hand on the way to giving an injection! (grin)
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Monday, Jan 19, 2009 3:10:07
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> There are also disposable recepticles that I get from the pharmacy
> >> which
> >> is safer than just uncrewing the top of the pen, it is put out b-d and
> >> on
> >> the top of the contained are 2 holes one is to get rip of the screw top
> >> of the pen and the part that covered the needles the other hole is to
> >> stick the pen it self at a 45 degress angle and insert the needles,
> >> which
> >> has the threads that match the needle and you twist to uncrew the
> >> needle
> >> and it falls into the container without sticking yourself.
> >>
> >> Cheryl Echevarria
> >> Treasurer
> >> National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> >> Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Mike Freeman<mailto:k7uij at panix.com>
> >> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:56 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >>
> >>
> >> Diane:
> >>
> >> I can give you a generic answer but to be truly helpful, it might be
> >> nice to know what aspects of insulin pens and pen use you are
> >> wondering
> >> about.
> >>
> >> In general, insulin pens look like and are about the size of an
> >> old-fashioned fountain pen. You take the cap half off and the exposed
> >> end has threads upon which you screw an insulin pen needle assembly.
> >> You
> >> then tug on this assembly a bit and the needle cap comes off, leaving
> >> only a slim plastic cylinder covering the needle. You pull this off
> >> exposing the needle.
> >>
> >> On the other end of the pen is a dial which you turn to set the dose.
> >> Usually, there's one click per unit of insulin although some pens
> >> click
> >> in half-units and some in two-unit steps.
> >>
> >> To give yourself a shot, manufacturers tell you to dial in 2 units
> >> and
> >> then push the plunger (usually part of the dial apparatus) and
> >> insulin
> >> will squirt into the air. This is to get rid of air in the needle.
> >> However, if one is giving oneself a dose over 5 units, it is possible
> >> to
> >> dispense with the air shot even though manufacturers don't recommend
> >> it
> >> (yet some engineers working for manufacturers will say this also).
> >>
> >> You then dial up the dose, pinch up your skin, insert the needle and
> >> push down the plunger just as you do with a syringe. You then put the
> >> larger needle cap on, unscrew the needle, put the pen cap back on and
> >> voila, it looks like a fountain pen again.
> >>
> >> Pens come in two flavors -- disposable and refillable. The refillable
> >> pens have cartridges which you put in the pens and use until the
> >> insulin
> >> in the cartridge has been used, whereupon you throw the used
> >> cartridges
> >> away and insert new full ones. The exact mechanism of cartridge
> >> insertion depends upon which pen you're using.
> >>
> >> Disposable pens are pre-filled; you use them until all the insulin is
> >> gone and throw them away.
> >>
> >> Pens can have rapid-acting, intermediate-acting and long-acting or
> >> basal
> >> insulins; exactly what insulins are available in what pens can be
> >> garnered from the manufacturer. I'm pretty certain that Novo
> >> Nordisk's
> >> Novolog comes in both disposable pens and cartridges for the NovoPen
> >> III; one can get a Novolin 70/30 mix for the NovoPen III "Penfill"
> >> cartridges also.
> >>
> >> Lilly has Humalog in disposable pens and Sonophie Aventis has lantus
> >> available in a cartridge pen (the OptiClik) and in a disposable (the
> >> SoloStar).
> >>
> >> In the beginning, I think many Americans were worried that insulin
> >> pens
> >> might be inaccurate; in truth, they are ininv* accurate and are
> >> extremely convenient to use. Diabetics in Europe have been using them
> >> for years; they're just now really catching on over here in the
> >> States.
> >>
> >> That's a general overview. I highly recommend pens. I own a
> >> Count-a-dose
> >> so could use syringes if I had to but I'm quite content with pens.
> >>
> >> Let me know what I haven't answered.
> >>
> >> HTH!
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Diane"
> >> <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com<mailto:dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>>
> >> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind"
> >> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:33 PM
> >> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >>
> >>
> >> I know we have discussed this subject many times, but often you don't
> >> pay attention until it begins to impact your life. My Dad is looking
> >> into the pens, and I was just wondering what y'all can tell me about
> >> them.
> >> Thank you!
> >> Diane
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> >>
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> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:24:11 -0700
> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Message-ID: <9A6ABDA3C5024B07A6C06A3B809B45AE at DG28KX51>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > Well now,
> > If I run out on a pin I just use that.
> > I don't like sticking myself all of the time.
> > Unless it is one unit.
> > I do ok with that though.
> >
> > --Dar
> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> > Every saint has a past
> > every sinner has a future
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> > To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >
> >
> >> HMMM! I don't quite get it. Run through that again.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "catdancing" <catdancing at sbcglobal.net>
> >> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Date: Monday, Jan 19, 2009 6:33:16
> >> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> also with an insulin pen if u don't have the amount u need left in the
> >>> pen
> >>> the instructions say to throw it away and start a new one that could
> >>> get
> >>> expensive.or u can open a new pen an withdrawl the rest of what is
> >>> needed
> >>> for your injection.this is done before placing the needle on the new
> >>> pen.this in on the pens that aredisposable not the refillable
> >>> cartridge
> >>> ones. but the same procedure using a different cartridge can be used
> >>> with
> >>> the cartridge pens. i have used both.
> >>> Debbie
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> >>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:38 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > There are also disposable recepticles that I get from the pharmacy
> >>> > which
> >>> > is safer than just uncrewing the top of the pen, it is put out b-d
> >>> > and
> >>> > on
> >>> > the top of the contained are 2 holes one is to get rip of the screw
> >>> > top
> >>> > of
> >>> > the pen and the part that covered the needles the other hole is to
> >>> > stick
> >>> > the pen it self at a 45 degress angle and insert the needles, which
> >>> > has
> >>> > the threads that match the needle and you twist to uncrew the needle
> >>> > and
> >>> > it falls into the container without sticking yourself.
> >>> >
> >>> > Cheryl Echevarria
> >>> > Treasurer
> >>> > National Federation of the Blind Greater Long Island Chapter
> >>> > Member NAGDU, NYAGDU and DAN
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > From: Mike Freeman<mailto:k7uij at panix.com>
> >>> > To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:56 AM
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Diane:
> >>> >
> >>> > I can give you a generic answer but to be truly helpful, it might
> >>> > be
> >>> > nice to know what aspects of insulin pens and pen use you are
> >>> > wondering
> >>> > about.
> >>> >
> >>> > In general, insulin pens look like and are about the size of an
> >>> > old-fashioned fountain pen. You take the cap half off and the
> >>> > exposed
> >>> > end has threads upon which you screw an insulin pen needle
> >>> > assembly.
> >>> > You
> >>> > then tug on this assembly a bit and the needle cap comes off,
> >>> > leaving
> >>> > only a slim plastic cylinder covering the needle. You pull this off
> >>> > exposing the needle.
> >>> >
> >>> > On the other end of the pen is a dial which you turn to set the
> >>> > dose.
> >>> > Usually, there's one click per unit of insulin although some pens
> >>> > click
> >>> > in half-units and some in two-unit steps.
> >>> >
> >>> > To give yourself a shot, manufacturers tell you to dial in 2 units
> >>> > and
> >>> > then push the plunger (usually part of the dial apparatus) and
> >>> > insulin
> >>> > will squirt into the air. This is to get rid of air in the needle.
> >>> > However, if one is giving oneself a dose over 5 units, it is
> >>> > possible
> >>> > to
> >>> > dispense with the air shot even though manufacturers don't
> >>> > recommend
> >>> > it
> >>> > (yet some engineers working for manufacturers will say this also).
> >>> >
> >>> > You then dial up the dose, pinch up your skin, insert the needle
> >>> > and
> >>> > push down the plunger just as you do with a syringe. You then put
> >>> > the
> >>> > larger needle cap on, unscrew the needle, put the pen cap back on
> >>> > and
> >>> > voila, it looks like a fountain pen again.
> >>> >
> >>> > Pens come in two flavors -- disposable and refillable. The
> >>> > refillable
> >>> > pens have cartridges which you put in the pens and use until the
> >>> > insulin
> >>> > in the cartridge has been used, whereupon you throw the used
> >>> > cartridges
> >>> > away and insert new full ones. The exact mechanism of cartridge
> >>> > insertion depends upon which pen you're using.
> >>> >
> >>> > Disposable pens are pre-filled; you use them until all the insulin
> >>> > is
> >>> > gone and throw them away.
> >>> >
> >>> > Pens can have rapid-acting, intermediate-acting and long-acting or
> >>> > basal
> >>> > insulins; exactly what insulins are available in what pens can be
> >>> > garnered from the manufacturer. I'm pretty certain that Novo
> >>> > Nordisk's
> >>> > Novolog comes in both disposable pens and cartridges for the
> >>> > NovoPen
> >>> > III; one can get a Novolin 70/30 mix for the NovoPen III "Penfill"
> >>> > cartridges also.
> >>> >
> >>> > Lilly has Humalog in disposable pens and Sonophie Aventis has
> >>> > lantus
> >>> > available in a cartridge pen (the OptiClik) and in a disposable
> >>> > (the
> >>> > SoloStar).
> >>> >
> >>> > In the beginning, I think many Americans were worried that insulin
> >>> > pens
> >>> > might be inaccurate; in truth, they are ininv* accurate and are
> >>> > extremely convenient to use. Diabetics in Europe have been using
> >>> > them
> >>> > for years; they're just now really catching on over here in the
> >>> > States.
> >>> >
> >>> > That's a general overview. I highly recommend pens. I own a
> >>> > Count-a-dose
> >>> > so could use syringes if I had to but I'm quite content with pens.
> >>> >
> >>> > Let me know what I haven't answered.
> >>> >
> >>> > HTH!
> >>> >
> >>> > Mike
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > From: "Diane"
> >>> > <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com<mailto:dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>>
> >>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind"
> >>> > <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>
> >>> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:33 PM
> >>> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Insulin pens
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I know we have discussed this subject many times, but often you
> >>> > don't
> >>> > pay attention until it begins to impact your life. My Dad is
> >>> > looking
> >>> > into the pens, and I was just wondering what y'all can tell me
> >>> > about
> >>> > them.
> >>> > Thank you!
> >>> > Diane
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
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> >>> >
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> >>> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:35:47 -0800
> > From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Any suggestions appreciated
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Message-ID: <58720F2D5B924C47ACF1A6E3514E3CB5 at owner96190708e>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > http://www.ExecutiveProductsInc.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
> > To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Any suggestions appreciated
> >
> >
> > What is the website for Executive Leather? I find that my Prodigy turns
> > on
> > in my purse or my briefcase but other than that I really like this
> > meter.
> > Mine works perfectly and it goes everywhere with me.
> > Joyce
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Anspach
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:31 PM
> > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Any suggestions appreciated
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> > I can attest to the same results with the Prodigy Voice as Mike does
> > below.
> > I have had my meter since late last summer and have had very consistent
> > readings throughout. I have taken this meter on a few trips and it works
> > great. The only thing I can say that I don't like about the meter is
> > it's
> > relatively flimsy case. The case is not sturdy enough to prevent the
> > meter
> > from being turned on accidentally while being stored in a carry on bag,
> > back
> > pack etc. Outside of that, I highly recommend this meter. I know that
> > Executive Products makes a great line of leather cases for cell phones,
> > mp3
> > players and more, but I'm wondering if anyone has thought to contact
> > them
> > about making a sturdier case for the Voice?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:52 PM
> > To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Any suggestions appreciated
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > At first, Prodigy had some quality control problems with meter
> > manufacture.
> > However, my experience is that these were solved relatively quickly
> > except
> > for a calendar software glitch that no longer matters as we're past
> > February
> > 29, 2008. I have had consistent results with the Voice, the only
> > inconsistencies being an occasional reading that is too low, not to
> > high,
> > because of insufficient blood.
> >
> > I believe I know what your problem is re strip insertion. I suspect
> > you're
> > just aiming generally at the slot and inserting the strip. This can give
> > inconsistent results as you discovered. The *right* way to do this is to
> > make sure as you insert the strip that it is *all* the way to the bottom
> > of
> > the squarish slot side of the clamshell so that it rests on the plastic
> > at
> > the bottom of the square as it goes in. I had problems initially until I
> > discovered this. I haven't had a misfire in hundreds of tests since. The
> > system isn't quite as foolproof as the slot in the Autocode but the
> > added
> > accessibility is worth it and, as I say, if you make sure the strip
> > slides
> > in resting on the plastic, i.e., held in the squared groove, I'm certain
> > you'll get consistent results every time.
> >
> > Mike Freeman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nefertiti Matos Olivares" <nmatos at panix.com>
> > To: <blind-diabetics at yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:26 AM
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Any suggestions appreciated
> >
> >
> > List:
> >
> > My experience with the Prodigy Voice meter has been questionable at
> > best.
> > I write this E-mail to whoever may have a suggestion(s) for my problem.
> > As
> > a preface, my apologies for the longish explanation.
> >
> > My mother purchased the Prodigy Voice for me close to a year ago. At
> > first, it seemed like a good way to give my vision-impaired eyes a rest
> > from the hard-to-see meter I had at the time. Other than being a bit
> > difficult to get it to respond once a strip was inserted, (usually took
> > 2-4 removals and reinsertions to get the Prodigy functioning) I was
> > pretty
> > satisfied. That quickly changed when, due to over-dosing Insulin, I
> > experienced several frightening lows.
> >
> > Thinking that I had perhaps altered something in myself to cause the
> > lows,
> > I decided to double-check with my previous meter. The Contour gave
> > consistent results which were on average 50-60 points lower than the
> > Prodigy. The contour numbers were what both my Diabetes team and I had
> > come to expect of my diet and Insulin therapy.
> >
> > Because I wanted to continue using the Prodigy, my doctor suggested that
> > I
> > call the supplier and explain the situation. My explanation was received
> > with a "Hmm.That's odd. Well how's about we send you a new meter while
> > we
> > look into this issue?" I accepted and a week later I had a brand-new
> > meter
> > in my hands.
> >
> > Being of a suspicious nature, I tested the morning after with both
> > meters.
> > There was a big difference in readings. I have repeated the process for
> > weeks now and the result remains the same. I hesitate to use the Prodigy
> > as my main meter for obvious reasons.
> >
> > Might any of you fine people have a suggestion as to what I ought to do
> > next? I am this close to returning the meter and the loads of strips I
> > have but I just wanted to run it by more experienced diabetics first.
> >
> > Thank you for taking the time to read and respond should you be so
> > inclined.
> >
> > Nef
> >
> >
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:53:12 -0800
> > From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Pharmacology of Glargine
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Message-ID: <7753539E9AA542ADAD17689CBE803FBD at owner96190708e>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > MMM ... hafta think about that one.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Pharmacology of Glargine
> >
> >
> > Ok I didn't understand all of this,
> > can you put it into English for me please?
> > thanks,
> >
> > --Dar
> > www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> > Every saint has a past
> > every sinner has a future
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> > To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:26 PM
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Pharmacology of Glargine
> >
> >
> >> Hi, everyone!
> >>
> >> Yesterday, I was looking at the lantus website, http://www.lantus.com
> >> and
> >> became intrigued by the pharmacology of lantus. This long-lasting
> >> basal
> >> insulin, when injected, has a pH of 4 which makes it mildly acidic.
> >> Under
> >> this circumstance, lantus is water-soluble and thus is injected
> >> easily.
> >> Once under the skin, however, the solution is almost immediately
> >> nutralized (pH of 7) and is no longer water-soluble and thus comes out
> >> as
> >> a precipitate that releases its insulin over the next 24 hours.
> >>
> >> My hat is off to whomever came up with this clever notion of how to
> >> make a
> >> long-lasting, peakless insulin. Wish I had that kind of imagination!
> >>
> >> Mike Freeman
> >>
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