[Diabetes-talk] Prodigy Voice Accessible User Guides

Sun Mar 15 19:31:01 UTC 2009

Ya know, I almost mentioned the BNS, the Braille LT 40  and so on, but
didn't. So, html and plain text it is!

Dave

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From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:51 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy Voice Accessible User Guides

Dave:

I agree with you -- almost. My one bone to pick is your advocacy of HTML. It
doesn't work with all note-takers, specifically, the Braille 'N' Speak and
Braille Lite famlies. yes, I know these are obsolete but you'd be surprised
how many people still use them (I would be also exept my Braille Lite was in
a bag stolen from my truck last September).

So HTML *and* text versions are useful.

Mike

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From: "David Anspach" <danspach at tampabay.rr.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy Voice Accessible User Guides

Hi John,
Thanks for letting us all know that the links will remain active. Thank 
you
also for all of your efforts in ensuring the manual is in an accessible
format as this really helps us all. You asked about Braille, so, I'll 
give
you my perspective. Braille can often become expensive to produce 
especially
considering that there are only a low number of people who would request 
it
in that format. It is unfortunate, but in the United States, we, a s a
whole, are simply not Braille readers. This is why the NFB is trying so 
hard
to get more blind Americans to learn how to read Braille as it is an
invaluable tool and one that really makes anyone who is blind 
"literate." Of
course, this is just one opinion.

If I had to make the decision about producing a Braille manual, I would 
opt
for an electronic Braille version. This would give anyone with a device 
that
has a Braille display  the ability of viewing the manual using that 
display.
If someone owns a Braille embosser, then they could emboss their own 
version
as well. I'm sure there are drawbacks to an electronic Braille version 
and
perhaps someone else who knows more about BRF files can chime in here 
and
let us know.

In the end, the cheapest and probably the quickest way to provide an
accessible manual is through the use of html. All screen readers can 
access
well written and tagged html/web pages.

Hope this helps,

Dave

an electronic format that could then be used on Braille note takers. 
This
would enable anyone who has a device with a Braille display to be able 
to
access the manual using the devices Braille display.
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[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jon Carey
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:53 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy Voice Accessible User Guides

Dave,

I am the Webmaster and Marketing Director here at ADS and will keep 
those
links active through any changes in our website. (I am working on making 
the
Audio tracks more accessible)

As far as the language in the user guide goes, I have no control over 
what
it says. I just noticed that a lot of individuals on the diabetes talk 
list
were asking about an accessible user guide because they were not able to
read pdf files. I just took it upon myself to create a few version of 
the
Voice user guide on my own time.

I did however forward it to DDI to make sure that they could have it 
readily
available for anyone that requested it. If you ask me, that should be 
one of
the main things they focus on when creating user guides. What about a
Braille user guide?

I am working on a few things to help every diabetic with visual 
impairments.

Best Regards,

Jonathan Carey

Marketing Director

Advanced Diabetes Supply

1-800-730-9887 x 7220

1-800-503-6280 Fax

www.NorthCoastMed.com <http://www.northcoastmed.com/>      Insurance
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[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Anspach
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:17 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy Voice Accessible User Guides

Hello Jonathan,

Thanks so much for providing the links to the accessible version of the

Prodigy Voice meter.  Will these links always be available and working, 
or,

should we save each page to the hard drive of our PC? Second, I ran 
across

the following text in the manual that I found well, rather offensive, 
for

lack of a better word. The text is as follows and can be found in the

pre-cautions portion of the manual:

1. Close supervision is necessary when the device is used by, on, or 
near

children, handicapped persons  or  invalids.

This text can be found on the  following page:

http://www.northcoastmed.com/accessible/voice_userguide.txt

Ok, perhaps I'm being a bit naive, but I thought the term of 
"handicapped

persons" went out with the turn of the century? Anyway, I thought this 
was a

rather ridiculous statement in that it includes cautioning against 
someone

with a "handicap"  either using or being near the device while it is 
being

used. Are you kidding me? How can DDI put this type  of language into 
the

user manual of a product they have developed for use by the blind?

I apologize Jonathan as I know you are not directly affiliated with DDI, 
but

who can I contact regarding this ridiculous statement? I would like to 
see

this ridiculous pre-cautionary statement be removed from the user manual

sooner than later. I hope I'm not being too picky as I think the Voice 
is an

awesome meter and your company, Jonathon, does quite well too. If you 
all

think I am being overly picky, then please let me  know and I will just 
let

it go. But if you are with me, then let me know that as well.

Have a great night,

Dave

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From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org

[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jon Carey

Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:30 PM

To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind

Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Prodigy Voice Accessible User Guides

This is a repost but I recently noticed some members of the list asking 
if

anyone knew of an accessible user guide for the voice. I have taken the

Prodigy Voice User Guide and formatted it so that everyone can use a 
screen

reader to utilize the user guide.

Here are the links again. I also put the Audio User Guide that comes 
with

the Prodigy Voice on the website for those that would like to access 
each

track at your leasure.

Accessible Text User Guide Click Here

<http://www.northcoastmed.com/accessible/voice_userguide.txt>

Accessible HTML User Guide Click Here

<http://www.northcoastmed.com/accessible/voice_userguide.htm>

Voice Audio User Guide Audio Tracks Here

<http://www.northcoastmed.com/audio/>

I just put these together to make life a little easier for those that 
can

not see. Hope it helps

Best Regards,

Jonathan Carey

Marketing Director

Advanced Diabetes Supply

1-800-730-9887 x 7220

1-800-503-6280 Fax

www.NorthCoastMed.com <http://www.NorthCoastMed.com>     Insurance

Covered Diabetic Testing Supplies

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