[Diabetes-talk] Inconsistencies with the Prodigy Voice...
William and Bernadette Jacobs
bandbjacobs at verizon.net
Wed Nov 3 17:53:36 UTC 2010
Hi Gang!!
Firstly, Prodigy is actually on our list here, so has captured anything said
here. I'd like to thank you guys: Mike, Shirley Roberts? and the whole
bunch of you for your great suggestions to Miss Lauren. However, another
thing I'd like to add here is that if anyone here finds his/her Prodigy
Voice to be less than bargained for, individuals may call the 800 number
listed on the Prodigy Voice Box, (Also to add the number is there in Braille
for those Braille users), and you can request that your meter be replaced,
and of course, it will be. These meters can be replaced at any time free of
charge.
For those of you who wish to speak further with me as a company rep, You are
welcome to email me offlist at: bandbjacobs at verizon.net, at which point I
can give you my phone and we can have further discussion if you're more
comfortable this way!
Have a great day!!
Bern
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> 1. accessible glucommiters? (Lauren B. Hunter)
> 2. ADS are you listening a member has some questions.
> (cheryl echevarria)
> 3. Re: Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy (Lucy.Alexander Mercer)
> 4. Re: accessible glucommiters? (Blindhands at aol.com)
> 5. Re: Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy (Blindhands at aol.com)
> 6. accessible glucommiters (Lauren B. Hunter)
> 7. Re: Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy (Vincent Chaney)
> 8. Re: accessible glucommiters (Blindhands at aol.com)
> 9. Re: Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy (Lucy.Alexander Mercer)
> 10. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage (d m gina)
> 11. Re: Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy (Mike Freeman)
> 12. Re: accessible glucommiters (Vincent Chaney)
> 13. Re: accessible glucommiters (Mike Freeman)
> 14. Re: accessible glucommiters (Vincent Chaney)
> 15. Re: Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy (Mike Freeman)
> 16. Re: Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy (Priscilla McKinley)
> 17. Re: accessible glucommiters (Veronica Elsea)
> 18. Re: accessible glucommiters (Shirley Roberts)
> 19. Re: Count-A-Dose. (d m gina)
> 20. Re: accessible glucommiters? (NCBootman)
> 21. Re: Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy (NCBootman)
> 22. Re: accessible glucommiters (Mike Freeman)
> 23. Re: Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy (Lucy.Alexander Mercer)
> 24. FYI Humalog, Humalog Mix insulin pen availability changes (Tamera)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 12:59:33 -0600
> From: "Lauren B. Hunter" <nightingale at pcdesk.net>
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters?
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> Hi List,
> i'm new to this particular list, although not at al new to the NFB.
> Right now the glucommiter i have isn't all that accessible, it's a
> prodigy. i can get it to read my reading to me, but that's about all,
> if any of the settings accidentally get changed somehow, i have to find
> someone sighted to look at it and change them back. And if i want it to
> repeat a result, there's no way to get it to do that. The other issue i
> have, and maybe it wouldn't be so much if i could get it to repeat is
> determining the number if it's two numbers that sound alike. i do have
> a hearing loss, and i wear hearing aids, but i've noticed if i have
> something like 115, sometimes i have a hard time if it's saying that or
> 150. Thanks so much in advance for your recommendations.
> Lauren
> --
>
> "I am responsible when anyone, anywhere
> Reaches out for help, I want my hand to be there"
> From the Shattered Fortress by Dream Theater
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:21:06 -0400
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] ADS are you listening a member has some
> questions.
> Message-ID: <BAY110-DS17FA0EFBD0EB906F548B9A1490 at phx.gbl>
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> Which prodigy do you have. The Prodigy voice is the one that is
> accessible.
>
> I am also wondering how long you have had your glucometer.
>
> I am a medical insurance specialist as well as owning my travel agency.
>
> You maybe able to get a new one.
>
> Which insurance do you have, if it is Medicare we have both DDI and ADS on
> this list which are Diabetic suppliers that might be able to assist you.
>
> Jordan or Tina from ADS do you have your ears on
> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
> http://Echevarriatravel.com<http://echevarriatravel.com/>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lauren B. Hunter<mailto:nightingale at pcdesk.net>
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:59 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters?
>
>
> Hi List,
> i'm new to this particular list, although not at al new to the NFB.
> Right now the glucommiter i have isn't all that accessible, it's a
> prodigy. i can get it to read my reading to me, but that's about all,
> if any of the settings accidentally get changed somehow, i have to find
> someone sighted to look at it and change them back. And if i want it to
> repeat a result, there's no way to get it to do that. The other issue i
> have, and maybe it wouldn't be so much if i could get it to repeat is
> determining the number if it's two numbers that sound alike. i do have
> a hearing loss, and i wear hearing aids, but i've noticed if i have
> something like 115, sometimes i have a hard time if it's saying that or
> 150. Thanks so much in advance for your recommendations.
> Lauren
> --
>
> "I am responsible when anyone, anywhere
> Reaches out for help, I want my hand to be there"
> From the Shattered Fortress by Dream Theater
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:22:42 -0500
> From: "Lucy.Alexander Mercer" <Lucy.Alexander.Mercer at tn.gov>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
> Message-ID: <4CD01E98.4370.0069.0 at tn.gov>
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>
> Hi, list! I work as a Rehabilitation Instructor and from time to time
> purchase talking glucometers for clients. Our agency policy is that
> Instructors do not teach clients how to use these devices but ask that
> home health or nurses or other med professionals provide that type of
> instruction. I also do not have diabetes; thus, although I have some
> appreciation for the effort needed to manage diabetes, I cannot sympathize
> and am still in the learning process.
> Recently, I met a lady 70+ years-old who has lost her vision during the
> past six months due to episodes of extremely low blood sugar. She got a
> reading of 70 with the Prodigy when the actual reading was 25. She ended
> up hospitalized in a coma and is now scared the Prodigy is not accurate
> and will not use it. How often do meters give incorrect readings? Has
> anyone had this issue with the Prodigy? what can be done to minimize such
> events? I would really like to be able to offer her some genuine
> assurance that the Prodigy or other accessible glucometer will provide
> accurate info on a consistent basis.
>
> Thanks,
> Lucy
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:28:44 EDT
> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters?
> Message-ID: <2b31a.604f6bee.3a01c06c at aol.com>
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>
> Prodigy Voice is accessible. It sounds like you have an older model.
>
> There is also the Solo meter. Both of these you do not need sighted
> help
> with using or going back and relistening to your test results.
>
> Joyce Kane
> www.KraftersKorner.org (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:37:20 EDT
> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
> Message-ID: <2bbdf.6c1635ee.3a01c270 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> The solo glucometer does say if there is not enough blood and will not
> give
> you a result. I have had trouble with the Prodigy when not enough blood
> was put on it and it does give you a reading. My readings under those
> conditions were lower then the blood sugar actually was.
>
> Now going the opposite way as you just explained could be that her blood
> sugar was going low faster then you think. Generally if I have any doubts
> on the numbers I get I will retest using another finger to be sure.
>
> Joyce Kane
> www.KraftersKorner.org (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:35:08 -0600
> From: "Lauren B. Hunter" <nightingale at pcdesk.net>
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
> Message-ID: <4CD075FC.2020908 at pcdesk.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Thanks so far for the responses i've received. i'm not sure which
> prodigy it is, but from what i'm remembering, i've had mine since August
> or September of 2008. i have also found at times that i get inacuriate
> readings, and for me it helps that i generally know where my levels
> should be. So if i end up getting something really low or really high,
> i will end up testing again. my current insurance is Mediacare, it
> sounds like if i upgraded to something newer, that might solve some of
> my problems?
> Lauren
> --
>
> "I am responsible when anyone, anywhere
> Reaches out for help, I want my hand to be there"
> From the Shattered Fortress by Dream Theater
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:52:14 -0400
> From: Vincent Chaney <vgc732 at optonline.net>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
> Message-ID: <80CA7B0F1BCB4521BF816EAF6E28E88D at Vincent>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Lucy,
>
> May I offer an answer to your question from the details you have provided.
> With all blood glucose meters, the first step to testing is to wash your
> hands in warm water. You are not supposed to use hot water. *If you do not
> wash your hands, you may get false readings higher than your true blood
> glucose level. If you have hand cream on, have touched food, glue or
> anything chemically that could elevate your level, your result would be
> off
> and likely high. You mentioned your client has been blind for six months
> but
> not how long a diabetic. If she is able to recognize a low-sugar episode
> and
> does not have hypoglycemic unawareness, you need to believe in the
> tingles,
> muscle twitching or sweating you may have if you may not have remembered
> to
> wash or able to properly think in the testing due to your sugar level.
> This
> would not be due to the accuracy from the meters.
> If I can offer an example of not washing my hands prior to a test...
> Once at work I got a reading in the mid 300s, but did not feel like I was
> high. I was actually a little puzzled and thought through what may have
> caused my reading. With no true cause, I was thinking while I began to sip
> my morning coffee. Hmm, did I touch something? I went to the rest-room and
> returned to my desk to find my sugar at 150. I then realized I had gotten
> milk on my finger tips when I was getting my coffee. This was one of many
> examples I have found to give high levels when testing.
>
> Vinny
> Vincent Chaney Jr
> NFB Diabetes Action Network (DAN) Board of Directors
> NFBNJ Diabetes Division President
> NJAGDU (NFBNJ Association of Guide Dog Users) Division President
> NFBNJ Technology Division Vice President
> NFBNJ Resolutions Committee Member
> NFBNJ.ORG Webmaster
> Mail: vgc732 at optonline.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lucy.Alexander Mercer" <Lucy.Alexander.Mercer at tn.gov>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
>
>
> Hi, list! I work as a Rehabilitation Instructor and from time to time
> purchase talking glucometers for clients. Our agency policy is that
> Instructors do not teach clients how to use these devices but ask that
> home
> health or nurses or other med professionals provide that type of
> instruction. I also do not have diabetes; thus, although I have some
> appreciation for the effort needed to manage diabetes, I cannot sympathize
> and am still in the learning process.
> Recently, I met a lady 70+ years-old who has lost her vision during the
> past
> six months due to episodes of extremely low blood sugar. She got a
> reading
> of 70 with the Prodigy when the actual reading was 25. She ended up
> hospitalized in a coma and is now scared the Prodigy is not accurate and
> will not use it. How often do meters give incorrect readings? Has anyone
> had this issue with the Prodigy? what can be done to minimize such
> events?
> I would really like to be able to offer her some genuine assurance that
> the
> Prodigy or other accessible glucometer will provide accurate info on a
> consistent basis.
>
> Thanks,
> Lucy
>
>
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:54:15 EDT
> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
> Message-ID: <6471.66c4f281.3a01d477 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> They were giving away the solo glucometer at NFB Convention in Dallas.
> So
> I am sure you could get one without any trouble. It is just being sure
> your insurance will cover the cost of the test strips. You really need a
> new
> machine and that will solve most of the problems you seem to be having.
>
> Joyce Kane
> www.KraftersKorner.org (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:08:44 -0500
> From: "Lucy.Alexander Mercer" <Lucy.Alexander.Mercer at tn.gov>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
> Message-ID: <4CD03785.4370.0069.0 at tn.gov>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Thanks so much. I really did not feel that the meter was the issue but
> just did not have enough knowledge to trouble shoot this situation. She
> has stopped using the Prodigy, which scares me because her husband seemed
> to have dementia and her son, who lives with them and is sighted, may not
> always be around when she needs to test. Two diabetic comas in six months
> and no trust in a meter would terrify me. I have no idea how long she has
> been diabetic. Again, I appreciate your suggestions and will pass them
> along to her.
>
>>>>
> From: Vincent Chaney <vgc732 at optonline.net>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 11/2/2010 3:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
>
> Lucy,
>
> May I offer an answer to your question from the details you have provided.
> With all blood glucose meters, the first step to testing is to wash your
> hands in warm water. You are not supposed to use hot water. *If you do not
> wash your hands, you may get false readings higher than your true blood
> glucose level. If you have hand cream on, have touched food, glue or
> anything chemically that could elevate your level, your result would be
> off
> and likely high. You mentioned your client has been blind for six months
> but
> not how long a diabetic. If she is able to recognize a low-sugar episode
> and
> does not have hypoglycemic unawareness, you need to believe in the
> tingles,
> muscle twitching or sweating you may have if you may not have remembered
> to
> wash or able to properly think in the testing due to your sugar level.
> This
> would not be due to the accuracy from the meters.
> If I can offer an example of not washing my hands prior to a test...
> Once at work I got a reading in the mid 300s, but did not feel like I was
> high. I was actually a little puzzled and thought through what may have
> caused my reading. With no true cause, I was thinking while I began to sip
> my morning coffee. Hmm, did I touch something? I went to the rest-room and
> returned to my desk to find my sugar at 150. I then realized I had gotten
> milk on my finger tips when I was getting my coffee. This was one of many
> examples I have found to give high levels when testing.
>
> Vinny
> Vincent Chaney Jr
> NFB Diabetes Action Network (DAN) Board of Directors
> NFBNJ Diabetes Division President
> NJAGDU (NFBNJ Association of Guide Dog Users) Division President
> NFBNJ Technology Division Vice President
> NFBNJ Resolutions Committee Member
> NFBNJ.ORG Webmaster
> Mail: vgc732 at optonline.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lucy.Alexander Mercer" <Lucy.Alexander.Mercer at tn.gov>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
>
>
> Hi, list! I work as a Rehabilitation Instructor and from time to time
> purchase talking glucometers for clients. Our agency policy is that
> Instructors do not teach clients how to use these devices but ask that
> home
> health or nurses or other med professionals provide that type of
> instruction. I also do not have diabetes; thus, although I have some
> appreciation for the effort needed to manage diabetes, I cannot sympathize
> and am still in the learning process.
> Recently, I met a lady 70+ years-old who has lost her vision during the
> past
> six months due to episodes of extremely low blood sugar. She got a
> reading
> of 70 with the Prodigy when the actual reading was 25. She ended up
> hospitalized in a coma and is now scared the Prodigy is not accurate and
> will not use it. How often do meters give incorrect readings? Has anyone
> had this issue with the Prodigy? what can be done to minimize such
> events?
> I would really like to be able to offer her some genuine assurance that
> the
> Prodigy or other accessible glucometer will provide accurate info on a
> consistent basis.
>
> Thanks,
> Lucy
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:33:58 -0400
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
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> Mike there are as many sighted using the pens as there are blind.
> this is one time it is across board.
> Not just for us.
> Remember giggle "The blind don't know how to use a pen smile.
> Isn't that what we have been fighting for quite some time to get this
> saying off the record?
> I would have to take training how to do it the way you folks do it with
> insulin.
> the pin I can turn the top and take what I need.
> Gee if it isn't one thing they get excited then it is another.
> Way to bad.
>
> Original message:
>> Cheryl:
>
>> I'm glad you were able to get your lantus in the SoloStar pens you
>> prefer.
>> Do you have any idea whether or not your pesky insurance company would
>> have
>> paid for the cartridge lantus pen whose name escapes me at the moment
>> made
>> by Sanofi-Aventis?
>
>> This gives rise to a question -- and I wish to publicly assure you that
>> in
>> posing it I mean no criticism: what should our stand be in light of NFB
>> philosophy if an insurance company refuses to cover the pen one likes?
>> Should we insist that we *need* (as opposed to preferring) that pen in
>> light
>> of the fact that the Count-a-dose exists again? Put another way, is this
>> really a matter of blindness or is it merely a matter of preference and
>> blindness is a convenient leverage point? I honestly don't know the
>> anser
>> myself as I use, like and prefer insulin pens. But I bought a
>> Count-a-dose
>> some time back in case Regence BlueCross got upity. (smile) There may
>> indeed be no set answer.
>
>> Let the discussion begin.
>
>> Again, I'm glad you were able to get an override and I agree with you
>> that
>> email on some subjects but not others strains the imagination a bit.
>
>> Warmly,
>
>> Mike Freeman
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:55 AM
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>
>
>>> I finally got my insulin. not to the help of the insurance company, who
>>> is
>>> not raising the premiums on my husband's insurance coverage at his
>>> company.
>
>>> My doctor had to call the insurance company and put in an over ride to
>>> the
>>> right department because the insurance company gave me the wrong one and
>>> then they had to contact my mail order pharmacy company and do this as
>>> well.
>
>>> I finally got my insulin Friday, I had to forego a few days of my
>>> lantus,
>>> making my readings reach over 300 some mornings.
>
>>> I am writing this up for the New York State Affiliate and work on this
>>> with our local government and see what happens. All depends on what
>>> happens after November 2nd, 2010 elections.
>
>>> I do have a case work with Congressman Steve Israel's office but haven't
>>> heard a word from them, I will call on Monday and find out what is
>>> happening on there end. I realize that I got my medication, but at the
>>> same time HIP is saying that the durable Medical supply company here on
>>> long island sent out this in the mail.
>
>>> Explaining to them, I don't get my durable medical supplies from that
>>> company since my primary insurance is Medicare. I also informed them
>>> that
>>> they sent out each month or every 3 months via e-mail when I need to
>>> refill a certain prescription but they cannot send me an e-mail that
>>> they
>>> are no longer covering a drug.
>
>>> That makes no sense.
>
>
>>> The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services!
>
>>> Cheryl Echevarria
>>> http://Echevarriatravel.com<http://echevarriatravel.com/>
>>> 1-866-580-5574
>>> Reservations at echevarriatravel.com<mailto:Reservations at echevarriatravel.com>
>
>>> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
>>> CST-1018299-10
>>> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Absolute Cruise and Travel
>>> Inc.
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:37:11 -0700
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
> Message-ID: <F99B311D-CCF9-41B2-B99C-9F840FCE2F91 at panix.com>
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> Lucy:
>
> You'll get a range of opinions on this subject. Here is mine.
>
> Absolutely every glucose meter on the market today gives erroneous
> readings occasionally. In fact, the FDA is sufficiently worried about the
> accuracy of meters designed for home use but often used in hospitals that
> it is putting pressure on the meter industry to increase the accuracy of
> glucose meters which, in fact, are only required to be accurate to within
> twenty percent in any case. The reason you don't hear more about this is
> that sighted persons can easily tell when there isn't enough blood on the
> test strip; this is usually the cause of inaccurate readings. Also, blind
> persons (especially those new to the game) tend to smear the blood,
> resulting in too little blood on the strip.
>
> The remedy, of course. with most meters (including the Prodigy Voice) is
> to just take another reading if the one just taken doesn't make sense.
> It's another nuisance of blindness.
>
> On the other hand, there's a new talking meter, the Solo V2, which does
> warn of errors and insufficient blood on the strip. One must still take
> another reading since strips aren't reuseable. Moreover, the Solo isn't
> quite fully accessible in that there is no Say Display key and when
> reviewing readings from memory, the times of readings aren't spoken (the
> date is spoken) though both are shown on the display. I understand these
> deficiencies will be corrected in an updated version. Until then, I still
> recommend the Prodigy Voice.
>
> HTH!
>
> Mike Freeman, DAN President
>
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 12:22, "Lucy.Alexander Mercer"
> <Lucy.Alexander.Mercer at tn.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hi, list! I work as a Rehabilitation Instructor and from time to time
>> purchase talking glucometers for clients. Our agency policy is that
>> Instructors do not teach clients how to use these devices but ask that
>> home health or nurses or other med professionals provide that type of
>> instruction. I also do not have diabetes; thus, although I have some
>> appreciation for the effort needed to manage diabetes, I cannot
>> sympathize and am still in the learning process.
>> Recently, I met a lady 70+ years-old who has lost her vision during the
>> past six months due to episodes of extremely low blood sugar. She got a
>> reading of 70 with the Prodigy when the actual reading was 25. She ended
>> up hospitalized in a coma and is now scared the Prodigy is not accurate
>> and will not use it. How often do meters give incorrect readings? Has
>> anyone had this issue with the Prodigy? what can be done to minimize
>> such events? I would really like to be able to offer her some genuine
>> assurance that the Prodigy or other accessible glucometer will provide
>> accurate info on a consistent basis.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lucy
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:39:19 -0400
> From: Vincent Chaney <vgc732 at optonline.net>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
> Message-ID: <8A3EBE96596F4BCC8D34FE78372371DB at Vincent>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Lauren,
>
> An upgrade would likely help. If you require speech, the Prodigy Voice
> would
> be the unit from Prodigy and not the Autocode, though the Autocode has
> been
> updated since 2008. I believe there is a repeat in the Autocode today.
> With
> the Prodigy Voice and the BioSense Solo you are able to change all
> settings.
> This weekend, for example, those of us who need to alter to standard time
> will be changing our meters back one hour. The Prodigy Voice and the
> BioSense Solo both will give you test results in memory. The Prodigy Voice
> gives you 450 results with the date and time while the Solo is being
> updated
> from our feedback and a review I had submitted to the BioSense Company.
> Currently the Solo only gives 10 results with the date only. They have
> said
> this will be expanded in the quantity and will include the time of the
> test.
> With regards to the speech and your limited hearing, I also have an issue
> with the teen numbers sounding like the ones like thirty, forty, fifty,
> sixty, etc. As all meters are not lab exact, the best thing would be to
> retest as you may get a reading close but not exactly the same. If, in
> your
> example of 150, you got 145 you would know that your first was likely the
> 150 and not the 115 reading. The only problem would be if the first was
> 150
> and the second was 140, you may not be sure if you had heard 140 or
> 114(sad
> face). I have worked with both the Prodigy Voice and the BioSense Solo and
> have had this speech problem. In actuality, I have this issue with my
> talking watch as well and do not have any troubles with my hearing.
> Wishing you the best...
>
> Vinny
> Vincent Chaney Jr
> NFB Diabetes Action Network (DAN) Board of Directors
> NFBNJ Diabetes Division President
> NJAGDU (NFBNJ Association of Guide Dog Users) Division President
> NFBNJ Technology Division Vice President
> NFBNJ Resolutions Committee Member
> NFBNJ.ORG Webmaster
> Mail: vgc732 at optonline.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lauren B. Hunter" <nightingale at pcdesk.net>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 4:35 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
>
>
> Thanks so far for the responses i've received. i'm not sure which
> prodigy it is, but from what i'm remembering, i've had mine since August
> or September of 2008. i have also found at times that i get inacuriate
> readings, and for me it helps that i generally know where my levels
> should be. So if i end up getting something really low or really high,
> i will end up testing again. my current insurance is Mediacare, it
> sounds like if i upgraded to something newer, that might solve some of
> my problems?
> Lauren
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> Reaches out for help, I want my hand to be there"
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>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:46:31 -0700
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
> Message-ID: <48D2528D-0453-436B-97A2-9ABBE9269E36 at panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Don't you wish meters sent Morse code?
>
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 14:39, Vincent Chaney <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Lauren,
>>
>> An upgrade would likely help. If you require speech, the Prodigy Voice
>> would
>> be the unit from Prodigy and not the Autocode, though the Autocode has
>> been
>> updated since 2008. I believe there is a repeat in the Autocode today.
>> With
>> the Prodigy Voice and the BioSense Solo you are able to change all
>> settings.
>> This weekend, for example, those of us who need to alter to standard time
>> will be changing our meters back one hour. The Prodigy Voice and the
>> BioSense Solo both will give you test results in memory. The Prodigy
>> Voice
>> gives you 450 results with the date and time while the Solo is being
>> updated
>> from our feedback and a review I had submitted to the BioSense Company.
>> Currently the Solo only gives 10 results with the date only. They have
>> said
>> this will be expanded in the quantity and will include the time of the
>> test.
>> With regards to the speech and your limited hearing, I also have an issue
>> with the teen numbers sounding like the ones like thirty, forty, fifty,
>> sixty, etc. As all meters are not lab exact, the best thing would be to
>> retest as you may get a reading close but not exactly the same. If, in
>> your
>> example of 150, you got 145 you would know that your first was likely the
>> 150 and not the 115 reading. The only problem would be if the first was
>> 150
>> and the second was 140, you may not be sure if you had heard 140 or
>> 114(sad
>> face). I have worked with both the Prodigy Voice and the BioSense Solo
>> and
>> have had this speech problem. In actuality, I have this issue with my
>> talking watch as well and do not have any troubles with my hearing.
>> Wishing you the best...
>>
>> Vinny
>> Vincent Chaney Jr
>> NFB Diabetes Action Network (DAN) Board of Directors
>> NFBNJ Diabetes Division President
>> NJAGDU (NFBNJ Association of Guide Dog Users) Division President
>> NFBNJ Technology Division Vice President
>> NFBNJ Resolutions Committee Member
>> NFBNJ.ORG Webmaster
>> Mail: vgc732 at optonline.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lauren B. Hunter" <nightingale at pcdesk.net>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 4:35 PM
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
>>
>>
>> Thanks so far for the responses i've received. i'm not sure which
>> prodigy it is, but from what i'm remembering, i've had mine since August
>> or September of 2008. i have also found at times that i get inacuriate
>> readings, and for me it helps that i generally know where my levels
>> should be. So if i end up getting something really low or really high,
>> i will end up testing again. my current insurance is Mediacare, it
>> sounds like if i upgraded to something newer, that might solve some of
>> my problems?
>> Lauren
>> --
>>
>> "I am responsible when anyone, anywhere
>> Reaches out for help, I want my hand to be there"
>> From the Shattered Fortress by Dream Theater
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:55:01 -0400
> From: Vincent Chaney <vgc732 at optonline.net>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
> Message-ID: <7CDFD1A7087C4DAEB3715B4D8FC3FC3D at Vincent>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Maybe we could ask for Braille for privacy(smiles).
>
> Vinny
> Vincent Chaney Jr
> NFB Diabetes Action Network (DAN) Board of Directors
> NFBNJ Diabetes Division President
> NJAGDU (NFBNJ Association of Guide Dog Users) Division President
> NFBNJ Technology Division Vice President
> NFBNJ Resolutions Committee Member
> NFBNJ.ORG Webmaster
> Mail: vgc732 at optonline.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
>
>
> Don't you wish meters sent Morse code?
>
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 14:39, Vincent Chaney <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Lauren,
>>
>> An upgrade would likely help. If you require speech, the Prodigy Voice
>> would
>> be the unit from Prodigy and not the Autocode, though the Autocode has
>> been
>> updated since 2008. I believe there is a repeat in the Autocode today.
>> With
>> the Prodigy Voice and the BioSense Solo you are able to change all
>> settings.
>> This weekend, for example, those of us who need to alter to standard time
>> will be changing our meters back one hour. The Prodigy Voice and the
>> BioSense Solo both will give you test results in memory. The Prodigy
>> Voice
>> gives you 450 results with the date and time while the Solo is being
>> updated
>> from our feedback and a review I had submitted to the BioSense Company.
>> Currently the Solo only gives 10 results with the date only. They have
>> said
>> this will be expanded in the quantity and will include the time of the
>> test.
>> With regards to the speech and your limited hearing, I also have an issue
>> with the teen numbers sounding like the ones like thirty, forty, fifty,
>> sixty, etc. As all meters are not lab exact, the best thing would be to
>> retest as you may get a reading close but not exactly the same. If, in
>> your
>> example of 150, you got 145 you would know that your first was likely the
>> 150 and not the 115 reading. The only problem would be if the first was
>> 150
>> and the second was 140, you may not be sure if you had heard 140 or
>> 114(sad
>> face). I have worked with both the Prodigy Voice and the BioSense Solo
>> and
>> have had this speech problem. In actuality, I have this issue with my
>> talking watch as well and do not have any troubles with my hearing.
>> Wishing you the best...
>>
>> Vinny
>> Vincent Chaney Jr
>> NFB Diabetes Action Network (DAN) Board of Directors
>> NFBNJ Diabetes Division President
>> NJAGDU (NFBNJ Association of Guide Dog Users) Division President
>> NFBNJ Technology Division Vice President
>> NFBNJ Resolutions Committee Member
>> NFBNJ.ORG Webmaster
>> Mail: vgc732 at optonline.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lauren B. Hunter" <nightingale at pcdesk.net>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 4:35 PM
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
>>
>>
>> Thanks so far for the responses i've received. i'm not sure which
>> prodigy it is, but from what i'm remembering, i've had mine since August
>> or September of 2008. i have also found at times that i get inacuriate
>> readings, and for me it helps that i generally know where my levels
>> should be. So if i end up getting something really low or really high,
>> i will end up testing again. my current insurance is Mediacare, it
>> sounds like if i upgraded to something newer, that might solve some of
>> my problems?
>> Lauren
>> --
>>
>> "I am responsible when anyone, anywhere
>> Reaches out for help, I want my hand to be there"
>> From the Shattered Fortress by Dream Theater
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:58:20 -0700
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
> Message-ID: <05F5D330-35AD-416D-946F-DB80284A3D24 at panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Vince has great suggestions although warm water helps me. I'd also
> suggest your client set her lancet device to maximum penetration. It'll
> sting but she'll know she got enough blood.
>
> Mike
>
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 14:08, "Lucy.Alexander Mercer"
> <Lucy.Alexander.Mercer at tn.gov> wrote:
>
>> Thanks so much. I really did not feel that the meter was the issue but
>> just did not have enough knowledge to trouble shoot this situation. She
>> has stopped using the Prodigy, which scares me because her husband seemed
>> to have dementia and her son, who lives with them and is sighted, may not
>> always be around when she needs to test. Two diabetic comas in six
>> months and no trust in a meter would terrify me. I have no idea how long
>> she has been diabetic. Again, I appreciate your suggestions and will
>> pass them along to her.
>>
>>>>>
>> From: Vincent Chaney <vgc732 at optonline.net>
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: 11/2/2010 3:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
>>
>> Lucy,
>>
>> May I offer an answer to your question from the details you have
>> provided.
>> With all blood glucose meters, the first step to testing is to wash your
>> hands in warm water. You are not supposed to use hot water. *If you do
>> not
>> wash your hands, you may get false readings higher than your true blood
>> glucose level. If you have hand cream on, have touched food, glue or
>> anything chemically that could elevate your level, your result would be
>> off
>> and likely high. You mentioned your client has been blind for six months
>> but
>> not how long a diabetic. If she is able to recognize a low-sugar episode
>> and
>> does not have hypoglycemic unawareness, you need to believe in the
>> tingles,
>> muscle twitching or sweating you may have if you may not have remembered
>> to
>> wash or able to properly think in the testing due to your sugar level.
>> This
>> would not be due to the accuracy from the meters.
>> If I can offer an example of not washing my hands prior to a test...
>> Once at work I got a reading in the mid 300s, but did not feel like I was
>> high. I was actually a little puzzled and thought through what may have
>> caused my reading. With no true cause, I was thinking while I began to
>> sip
>> my morning coffee. Hmm, did I touch something? I went to the rest-room
>> and
>> returned to my desk to find my sugar at 150. I then realized I had gotten
>> milk on my finger tips when I was getting my coffee. This was one of many
>> examples I have found to give high levels when testing.
>>
>> Vinny
>> Vincent Chaney Jr
>> NFB Diabetes Action Network (DAN) Board of Directors
>> NFBNJ Diabetes Division President
>> NJAGDU (NFBNJ Association of Guide Dog Users) Division President
>> NFBNJ Technology Division Vice President
>> NFBNJ Resolutions Committee Member
>> NFBNJ.ORG Webmaster
>> Mail: vgc732 at optonline.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lucy.Alexander Mercer" <Lucy.Alexander.Mercer at tn.gov>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
>>
>>
>> Hi, list! I work as a Rehabilitation Instructor and from time to time
>> purchase talking glucometers for clients. Our agency policy is that
>> Instructors do not teach clients how to use these devices but ask that
>> home
>> health or nurses or other med professionals provide that type of
>> instruction. I also do not have diabetes; thus, although I have some
>> appreciation for the effort needed to manage diabetes, I cannot
>> sympathize
>> and am still in the learning process.
>> Recently, I met a lady 70+ years-old who has lost her vision during the
>> past
>> six months due to episodes of extremely low blood sugar. She got a
>> reading
>> of 70 with the Prodigy when the actual reading was 25. She ended up
>> hospitalized in a coma and is now scared the Prodigy is not accurate and
>> will not use it. How often do meters give incorrect readings? Has
>> anyone
>> had this issue with the Prodigy? what can be done to minimize such
>> events?
>> I would really like to be able to offer her some genuine assurance that
>> the
>> Prodigy or other accessible glucometer will provide accurate info on a
>> consistent basis.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lucy
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:05:06 -0500
> From: Priscilla McKinley <priscilla.mckinley at gmail.com>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
> Message-ID:
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> I've had the Prodigy be wrong on a glucose, but never on the high
> side. Ordinarily, I can tell when the meter is going to be off when I
> don't get enough blood right away and it takes a couple of minutes to
> get enough blood to set off the meter. The glucose will be on the low
> side when I don't have enough blood right away. I always recheck in
> this case, and the glucose is always higher the second time.
>
>
> So if she checked the sugar and it was 70, who checked it the second
> time? The glucose could drop from 70 to 25 in a matter of minutes if
> she had just taken her insulin.
>
> Priscilla
>
>
>
> On 11/2/10, Lucy.Alexander Mercer <Lucy.Alexander.Mercer at tn.gov> wrote:
>> Hi, list! I work as a Rehabilitation Instructor and from time to time
>> purchase talking glucometers for clients. Our agency policy is that
>> Instructors do not teach clients how to use these devices but ask that
>> home
>> health or nurses or other med professionals provide that type of
>> instruction. I also do not have diabetes; thus, although I have some
>> appreciation for the effort needed to manage diabetes, I cannot
>> sympathize
>> and am still in the learning process.
>> Recently, I met a lady 70+ years-old who has lost her vision during the
>> past
>> six months due to episodes of extremely low blood sugar. She got a
>> reading
>> of 70 with the Prodigy when the actual reading was 25. She ended up
>> hospitalized in a coma and is now scared the Prodigy is not accurate and
>> will not use it. How often do meters give incorrect readings? Has
>> anyone
>> had this issue with the Prodigy? what can be done to minimize such
>> events?
>> I would really like to be able to offer her some genuine assurance that
>> the
>> Prodigy or other accessible glucometer will provide accurate info on a
>> consistent basis.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lucy
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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>
>
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>
> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:05:10 -0700
> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
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> When I first became a diabetic in 1988, I was given a meter called
> the Gluco check. If you managed to time and wipe at the right
> moments, in the end it would give out the result in beeps. So if you
> had a reading of one hundred fifteen, you'd hear beeps to represent
> each digit. So you'd hear beep, beep, beep beep beep beep beep. At
> least you knew what it was. But boy what a pain in the butt it was to use!
> And it was tough enough to survive my day of extreme frustration when
> I threw the meter across the room. <grin.>
>
> Veronica
>
> Diabetes Melodious is here!
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> 877-607-6407
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:27:21 -0400
> From: Shirley Roberts <n8lx at earthlink.net>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
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> That's great; I vote for that one!! (smile)
>
> Shirley Roberts
> n8lx at earthlink.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:46 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
>
> Don't you wish meters sent Morse code?
>
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 14:39, Vincent Chaney <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Lauren,
>>
>> An upgrade would likely help. If you require speech, the Prodigy Voice
>> would
>> be the unit from Prodigy and not the Autocode, though the Autocode has
>> been
>> updated since 2008. I believe there is a repeat in the Autocode today.
>> With
>> the Prodigy Voice and the BioSense Solo you are able to change all
>> settings.
>> This weekend, for example, those of us who need to alter to standard time
>> will be changing our meters back one hour. The Prodigy Voice and the
>> BioSense Solo both will give you test results in memory. The Prodigy
>> Voice
>> gives you 450 results with the date and time while the Solo is being
>> updated
>> from our feedback and a review I had submitted to the BioSense Company.
>> Currently the Solo only gives 10 results with the date only. They have
>> said
>> this will be expanded in the quantity and will include the time of the
>> test.
>> With regards to the speech and your limited hearing, I also have an issue
>> with the teen numbers sounding like the ones like thirty, forty, fifty,
>> sixty, etc. As all meters are not lab exact, the best thing would be to
>> retest as you may get a reading close but not exactly the same. If, in
>> your
>> example of 150, you got 145 you would know that your first was likely the
>> 150 and not the 115 reading. The only problem would be if the first was
>> 150
>> and the second was 140, you may not be sure if you had heard 140 or
>> 114(sad
>> face). I have worked with both the Prodigy Voice and the BioSense Solo
>> and
>> have had this speech problem. In actuality, I have this issue with my
>> talking watch as well and do not have any troubles with my hearing.
>> Wishing you the best...
>>
>> Vinny
>> Vincent Chaney Jr
>> NFB Diabetes Action Network (DAN) Board of Directors
>> NFBNJ Diabetes Division President
>> NJAGDU (NFBNJ Association of Guide Dog Users) Division President
>> NFBNJ Technology Division Vice President
>> NFBNJ Resolutions Committee Member
>> NFBNJ.ORG Webmaster
>> Mail: vgc732 at optonline.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lauren B. Hunter" <nightingale at pcdesk.net>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 4:35 PM
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
>>
>>
>> Thanks so far for the responses i've received. i'm not sure which
>> prodigy it is, but from what i'm remembering, i've had mine since August
>> or September of 2008. i have also found at times that i get inacuriate
>> readings, and for me it helps that i generally know where my levels
>> should be. So if i end up getting something really low or really high,
>> i will end up testing again. my current insurance is Mediacare, it
>> sounds like if i upgraded to something newer, that might solve some of
>> my problems?
>> Lauren
>> --
>>
>> "I am responsible when anyone, anywhere
>> Reaches out for help, I want my hand to be there"
>> From the Shattered Fortress by Dream Theater
>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:40:40 -0400
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Count-A-Dose.
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> Hi there I also cary the 6.2 as well. using the pin.
> Even my doctor is happy about that.
> So we shall rock and roll together smile.
>
> Original message:
>> Hey Gang!!
>
>> Call me the Queen of the Count-A-Dose! All I needed was three years ago,
>> when I actually did use the pens, I met that Medicare doughnut in the
>> middle
>> of April. The next year, when I went back to using the very same insulin
>> with the Count-A-dose along with the vials and syringes, what do ya
>> know--I
>> didn't hit the doughnut till the middle of August? That spoke volumes to
>> me!! And, of course, it was Ed Bryant who gave me my count-a-dose
>> lessons.
>> To this day, I'm still maintaining A1C of 6.2. I don't think I need say
>> more?
>
>> Have a great day!!
>
>> Bern
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <diabetes-talk-request at nfbnet.org>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:00 PM
>> Subject: Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 40, Issue 1
>
>
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>>> Today's Topics:
>
>>> 1. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage (Eileen Scrivani)
>>> 2. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage Count adose
>>> (Mike Freeman)
>>> 3. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage (Mike Freeman)
>>> 4. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage (Veronica Elsea)
>>> 5. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage Count a dose
>>> (Veronica Elsea)
>>> 6. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage (Mike Freeman)
>>> 7. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage Count a dose
>>> (Mike Freeman)
>
>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:01:05 -0400
>>> From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>>> Message-ID: <326F21F405834D6B925E13115E1A4B72 at eileenPC>
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>
>>> I do not believe its as simple as a matter of preference, A.K.A. just
>>> getting what we want because we want it.
>
>>> Before I made the switch to pens, I was using the count A Dose,
>>> When my diabetic educator saw it, she immediately came forth and said
>>> she
>>> questioned the "Exactness" of the dosages the device was pulling up
>>> using
>>> vials & syringes. She said all it would take to throw it off by a
>>> fraction
>>> of a unit or half unit would be a slight & unintentional movement of
>>> the
>>> hand or a little accidental extra push up or down and the insulin dose
>>> would
>>> be thrown off. For many people a fraction more or less may not have a
>>> great
>>> impact. For me at that time that little difference was having a huge
>>> impact
>>> on my numbers and the way I felt.
>
>>> The pens deliver a very exact dosage and are a requirement for good
>>> control
>>> and even numbers.
>
>>> Eileen
>
>
>
>
>
>>> ------------------------------
>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:07:05 -0700
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>>> Count adose
>>> Message-ID: <A4E94CABC06148D1BA6C1265E1FA9480 at owner1e06aeb63>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=original
>
>>> Hi, Joyce.
>
>>> Yes, the 1CC Count-a-dose is no longer made. Apparently, there wasn't
>>> sufficient demand for it. I wonder if this says something about
>>> improvement
>>> in overall diabetes control, thus obviating the necessity for massive
>>> doses
>>> of insulin? I have no opinion.
>
>>> Personally, I don't think needles are all that expensive and I never had
>>> fear of injections or injection site problems but for those who did or
>>> do,
>>> I
>>> can certainly relate.
>
>>> As I said in my previous post, there may not be a definitive answer to
>>> my
>>> philosophical question but the list has been sorta quiet lately so
>>> thought
>>> I'd stir the pot.
>
>>> Mike Freeman
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:38 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage Count
>>> adose
>
>
>
>>>> The Count a dose is not the answer for all. Before I started using
>>>> the
>>>> pen and the Count A Dose was not being manufactured I was on a dosage
>>>> of
>>>> Lantis that I used a 1 cc syringe. Luckily I had an old Count A Dose
>>>> that
>>>> accomodated the 1 cc syringe. From what I have heard the new Count a
>>>> Dose
>>>> is
>>>> available in the 1/2 cc size only. Is this correct?
>
>>>> So now a diabetic would have to take 2 injections causing expense for
>>>> extra
>>>> needles per month and more possible problems with injection sites.
>
>>>> Thank God I no longer need that Lantis dosage as I am on 44 units now
>>>> instead of 80 units, but that is close to the full syringe size. So I
>>>> am
>>>> happy
>>>> with the pen.
>>>> Joyce Kane
>>>> www.KraftersKorner.org (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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>
>
>
>
>>> ------------------------------
>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:23:50 -0700
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "Eileen Scrivani" <ETSCRIVANI at VERIZON.NET>, "Diabetes Talk for the
>>> Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>>> Message-ID: <BAE5A70FE19A4EEB898FD0525776D1A2 at owner1e06aeb63>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>
>>> Eileen:
>
>>> I'll certainly agree with you and stipulate that pens are more accurate.
>>> Most people in Europe nowadays use pens and can't figure out why we in
>>> the
>>> "colonies" haven't switched exclusively to them -- or pumps, perhaps.
>>> If
>>> my
>>> insurer said it would no longer cover pens, I'd switch insurers before I
>>> went to a Count-a-dose. Nonetheless, I bought one "just in case".
>
>>> Incidentally, while I can see and agree with your CDE's opinion that one
>>> can
>>> be more accurate with the pens than with Count-a-dose, there are those
>>> who
>>> feel that the latter is more accurate than the former. The late Ed
>>> Bryant
>>> was notably of this opinion. I suppose in the end it's what one is used
>>> to.
>
>>> Mike
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>
>
>>>> I do not believe its as simple as a matter of preference, A.K.A. just
>>>> getting what we want because we want it.
>
>>>> Before I made the switch to pens, I was using the count A Dose,
>>>> When my diabetic educator saw it, she immediately came forth and said
>>>> she
>>>> questioned the "Exactness" of the dosages the device was pulling up
>>>> using
>>>> vials & syringes. She said all it would take to throw it off by a
>>>> fraction of a unit or half unit would be a slight & unintentional
>>>> movement of the hand or a little accidental extra push up or down and
>>>> the
>>>> insulin dose would be thrown off. For many people a fraction more or
>>>> less
>>>> may not have a great impact. For me at that time that little
>>>> difference
>>>> was having a huge impact on my numbers and the way I felt.
>
>>>> The pens deliver a very exact dosage and are a requirement for good
>>>> control and even numbers.
>
>>>> Eileen
>
>
>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>>> ------------------------------
>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:56:02 -0700
>>> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <mailman.20.1288630806.22579.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org at nfbnet.org>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>>> I think that, blind or not, any person is going to find one system
>>> easier than another. Everyone should have that option. Some people
>>> with neuropathy will have certain abilities that may be different
>>> from other people. Just as every blind person is different. If you
>>> read the count-a-dose manual, they say there can be some variation in
>>> delivery from one vial to the next. If anyone felt mor reassured by
>>> how the pen delivered insulin, I'd totally support them. I think
>>> there is a way that the NFB could say that a blind person knows what
>>> is more accessible for him or her and should have the ability to have
>>> that determination respected. Same goes for sighted people.
>>> That's my take on the subject.
>
>>> Veronica
>>> Diabetes Melodious is here!
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> 877-607-6407
>
>
>
>
>>> ------------------------------
>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:59:24 -0700
>>> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>>> Count a dose
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <mailman.21.1288630806.22579.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org at nfbnet.org>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>>> Also, for those who take very small amounts of insulin, some pens
>>> click in half-unit increments, which the count-a-dose does not.
>
>>> Veronica
>>> Diabetes Melodious is here!
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> 877-607-6407
>
>
>
>
>>> ------------------------------
>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:37:37 -0700
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>>> Message-ID: <ED6338BA0D7A408A919EA22FB74C6AB6 at owner1e06aeb63>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>
>>> Veronica:
>
>>> You'll get no argument from me on that score.
>
>>> Mike
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Veronica Elsea" <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>
>
>>>> I think that, blind or not, any person is going to find one system
>>>> easier
>>>> than another. Everyone should have that option. Some people with
>>>> neuropathy
>>>> will have certain abilities that may be different from other people.
>>>> Just
>>>> as every blind person is different. If you read the count-a-dose
>>>> manual,
>>>> they say there can be some variation in delivery from one vial to the
>>>> next.
>>>> If anyone felt mor reassured by how the pen delivered insulin, I'd
>>>> totally
>>>> support them. I think there is a way that the NFB could say that a
>>>> blind
>>>> person knows what is more accessible for him or her and should have the
>>>> ability to have that determination respected. Same goes for sighted
>>>> people.
>>>> That's my take on the subject.
>
>>>> Veronica
>>>> Diabetes Melodious is here!
>>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>>> 877-607-6407
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>>> ------------------------------
>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:37:58 -0700
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>>> Count a dose
>>> Message-ID: <CB894EA1360F4F2CB1FBF84B9E517955 at owner1e06aeb63>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> reply-type=response
>
>>> Right again!
>
>>> Mike
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Veronica Elsea" <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage Count
>>> a
>>> dose
>
>
>>>> Also, for those who take very small amounts of insulin, some pens click
>>>> in
>>>> half-unit increments, which the count-a-dose does not.
>
>>>> Veronica
>>>> Diabetes Melodious is here!
>>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>>> 877-607-6407
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
>>> End of Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 40, Issue 1
>>> ********************************************
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:43:53 -0500
> From: "NCBootman" <ncbootman at gmail.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters?
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> One possibility that may help for checking the reading is to get a
> connector
> from whoever your diabetic supply provider is and send your results to the
> computer. That may be more user friendly for you. I use the Clever Check
> and
> really only use the feature of checking the reading I'm using now. The
> prodigy Voice is also more accessible I'm told. I don't know which flavor
> of
> Prodigy you may have.
>
> Greg in NC
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Lauren B. Hunter" <nightingale at pcdesk.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 1:59 PM
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters?
>
>> Hi List,
>> i'm new to this particular list, although not at al new to the NFB.
>> Right now the glucommiter i have isn't all that accessible, it's a
>> prodigy. i can get it to read my reading to me, but that's about all, if
>> any of the settings accidentally get changed somehow, i have to find
>> someone sighted to look at it and change them back. And if i want it to
>> repeat a result, there's no way to get it to do that. The other issue i
>> have, and maybe it wouldn't be so much if i could get it to repeat is
>> determining the number if it's two numbers that sound alike. i do have a
>> hearing loss, and i wear hearing aids, but i've noticed if i have
>> something like 115, sometimes i have a hard time if it's saying that or
>> 150. Thanks so much in advance for your recommendations.
>> Lauren
>> --
>>
>> "I am responsible when anyone, anywhere
>> Reaches out for help, I want my hand to be there"
>> From the Shattered Fortress by Dream Theater
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:02:43 -0500
> From: "NCBootman" <ncbootman at gmail.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
> Message-ID: <B2A276C499184DAEBB4155900D48A9B0 at THEFARM>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Lucy,
>
> Tell the lady that Prodigy is made to national standards and is reliable.
> Any meter will give a wrong reading from time to time. How you feel is far
> more important than a number coming out of a machine. At 25, she felt very
> awful! In that case, check again and see how similar the two readings are.
> Also, she needs some information about care of the strips. I use a Clever
> Check but had the same problem with the Prodigy. Extreme hot or cold is
> damaging to strips. I have learned from trial and error that if I pack my
> meter in my bag, put it in the trunk of the car and take a trip in summer,
> those strips will not give valid readings and I need to open a new vial
> and
> discard those. But, the solution is quite simple. When I travel, my meter
> is
> now on my belt. If the temperature is ok for us humans, it's ok for
> strips.
> Nobody told me this but I've learned it. Also, have the lady take her
> meter
> to her doctor. Test with doctor's meter and immediately test with Prodigy.
> It Will not be the same number. But, it will be within points even 10 or
> so.
> That much won't harm a person and whose meter is right? We simply don't
> know. It surely would catch a 25 to 70 difference.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Lucy.Alexander Mercer" <Lucy.Alexander.Mercer at tn.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:22 PM
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
>
>> Hi, list! I work as a Rehabilitation Instructor and from time to time
>> purchase talking glucometers for clients. Our agency policy is that
>> Instructors do not teach clients how to use these devices but ask that
>> home health or nurses or other med professionals provide that type of
>> instruction. I also do not have diabetes; thus, although I have some
>> appreciation for the effort needed to manage diabetes, I cannot
>> sympathize
>> and am still in the learning process.
>> Recently, I met a lady 70+ years-old who has lost her vision during the
>> past six months due to episodes of extremely low blood sugar. She got a
>> reading of 70 with the Prodigy when the actual reading was 25. She ended
>> up hospitalized in a coma and is now scared the Prodigy is not accurate
>> and will not use it. How often do meters give incorrect readings? Has
>> anyone had this issue with the Prodigy? what can be done to minimize
>> such
>> events? I would really like to be able to offer her some genuine
>> assurance that the Prodigy or other accessible glucometer will provide
>> accurate info on a consistent basis.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lucy
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:48:20 -0700
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
> Message-ID: <027894E7FF884FC5AA8414C0CDD46BDD at owner1e06aeb63>
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>
> Thought you might! <g>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shirley Roberts" <n8lx at earthlink.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
>
>
>> That's great; I vote for that one!! (smile)
>>
>> Shirley Roberts
>> n8lx at earthlink.net
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:46 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
>>
>> Don't you wish meters sent Morse code?
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2010, at 14:39, Vincent Chaney <vgc732 at optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Lauren,
>>>
>>> An upgrade would likely help. If you require speech, the Prodigy Voice
>>> would
>>> be the unit from Prodigy and not the Autocode, though the Autocode has
>>> been
>>> updated since 2008. I believe there is a repeat in the Autocode today.
>>> With
>>> the Prodigy Voice and the BioSense Solo you are able to change all
>>> settings.
>>> This weekend, for example, those of us who need to alter to standard
>>> time
>>> will be changing our meters back one hour. The Prodigy Voice and the
>>> BioSense Solo both will give you test results in memory. The Prodigy
>>> Voice
>>> gives you 450 results with the date and time while the Solo is being
>>> updated
>>> from our feedback and a review I had submitted to the BioSense Company.
>>> Currently the Solo only gives 10 results with the date only. They have
>>> said
>>> this will be expanded in the quantity and will include the time of the
>>> test.
>>> With regards to the speech and your limited hearing, I also have an
>>> issue
>>> with the teen numbers sounding like the ones like thirty, forty, fifty,
>>> sixty, etc. As all meters are not lab exact, the best thing would be to
>>> retest as you may get a reading close but not exactly the same. If, in
>>> your
>>> example of 150, you got 145 you would know that your first was likely
>>> the
>>> 150 and not the 115 reading. The only problem would be if the first was
>>> 150
>>> and the second was 140, you may not be sure if you had heard 140 or
>>> 114(sad
>>> face). I have worked with both the Prodigy Voice and the BioSense Solo
>>> and
>>> have had this speech problem. In actuality, I have this issue with my
>>> talking watch as well and do not have any troubles with my hearing.
>>> Wishing you the best...
>>>
>>> Vinny
>>> Vincent Chaney Jr
>>> NFB Diabetes Action Network (DAN) Board of Directors
>>> NFBNJ Diabetes Division President
>>> NJAGDU (NFBNJ Association of Guide Dog Users) Division President
>>> NFBNJ Technology Division Vice President
>>> NFBNJ Resolutions Committee Member
>>> NFBNJ.ORG Webmaster
>>> Mail: vgc732 at optonline.net
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lauren B. Hunter" <nightingale at pcdesk.net>
>>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 4:35 PM
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] accessible glucommiters
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks so far for the responses i've received. i'm not sure which
>>> prodigy it is, but from what i'm remembering, i've had mine since August
>>> or September of 2008. i have also found at times that i get inacuriate
>>> readings, and for me it helps that i generally know where my levels
>>> should be. So if i end up getting something really low or really high,
>>> i will end up testing again. my current insurance is Mediacare, it
>>> sounds like if i upgraded to something newer, that might solve some of
>>> my problems?
>>> Lauren
>>> --
>>>
>>> "I am responsible when anyone, anywhere
>>> Reaches out for help, I want my hand to be there"
>>> From the Shattered Fortress by Dream Theater
>>>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 07:46:46 -0500
> From: "Lucy.Alexander Mercer" <Lucy.Alexander.Mercer at tn.gov>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
> Message-ID: <4CD1136E.4370.0069.0 at tn.gov>
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>
> Thanks to all who have offered opinions and suggestions. These are
> helpful.
>
> Priscilla, I think the next reading was taken at the hospital but am not
> sure. I got the impression that not much time elapse between the home
> reading and the trip to the hospital due to unconsciousness. And, now
> that I said that, I am not sure that the next reading was not taken with
> another meter in the home. I went to her home with the purpose of
> conducting an independent living assessment to determine if she required
> services and the meter was a small part of our conversation. I realized
> quickly that with my current knowledge, I was not going to be very helpful
> to her, but I knew whom to ask. Congrats, list!
>
> I did tell her that a meter will not give an exact reading every time and
> encouraged her to take a second reading if she believes the first to be
> inaccurate. she has an inaccessible meter that she uses now with her
> son's assistance. I suggested two tests and comparing the results between
> meters. I am hoping she will see that they are similar more than they are
> not and use the Prodigy.
>
> Thanks so much!
> Lucy
>
>>>>
> From: Priscilla McKinley <priscilla.mckinley at gmail.com>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 11/2/2010 5:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Inconsistent Readings with the Prodigy
>
> I've had the Prodigy be wrong on a glucose, but never on the high
> side. Ordinarily, I can tell when the meter is going to be off when I
> don't get enough blood right away and it takes a couple of minutes to
> get enough blood to set off the meter. The glucose will be on the low
> side when I don't have enough blood right away. I always recheck in
> this case, and the glucose is always higher the second time.
>
>
> So if she checked the sugar and it was 70, who checked it the second
> time? The glucose could drop from 70 to 25 in a matter of minutes if
> she had just taken her insulin.
>
> Priscilla
>
>
>
> On 11/2/10, Lucy.Alexander Mercer <Lucy.Alexander.Mercer at tn.gov> wrote:
>> Hi, list! I work as a Rehabilitation Instructor and from time to time
>> purchase talking glucometers for clients. Our agency policy is that
>> Instructors do not teach clients how to use these devices but ask that
>> home
>> health or nurses or other med professionals provide that type of
>> instruction. I also do not have diabetes; thus, although I have some
>> appreciation for the effort needed to manage diabetes, I cannot
>> sympathize
>> and am still in the learning process.
>> Recently, I met a lady 70+ years-old who has lost her vision during the
>> past
>> six months due to episodes of extremely low blood sugar. She got a
>> reading
>> of 70 with the Prodigy when the actual reading was 25. She ended up
>> hospitalized in a coma and is now scared the Prodigy is not accurate and
>> will not use it. How often do meters give incorrect readings? Has
>> anyone
>> had this issue with the Prodigy? what can be done to minimize such
>> events?
>> I would really like to be able to offer her some genuine assurance that
>> the
>> Prodigy or other accessible glucometer will provide accurate info on a
>> consistent basis.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lucy
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:51:50 -0700
> From: "Tamera" <fidano at comcast.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] FYI Humalog, Humalog Mix insulin pen
> availability changes
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> Thought this might be of interest to those using these pens.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "iGuard.org" <drug.alert at iguard.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:01 AM
> To: <fidano at comcast.net>
> Subject: Humalog, Humalog Mix insulin pen availability changes
>
>>
>> Discontinuation of Original Prefilled Pens for Humalog and Humalog Mix
>>
>> As of January 1, 2011, Lilly will no longer manufacture the original
>> Prefilled Pens that contain:
>> Humalog (insulin lispro injection [rDNA origin])
>> Humalog Mix 75/25 (75% insulin lispro protamine suspension, 25% insulin
>> lispro injection [rDNA origin]), and
>> Humalog Mix 50/50 (50% insulin lispro protamine suspension, 50% insulin
>> lispro injection [rDNA origin]).
>>
>> This action is being taken in an effort to align Humalog prefilled
>> devices
>> under a single pen platform. By the end of October 2010, it is expected
>> that the original Prefilled Pen containing Humalog Mix50/50 will no
>> longer
>> be available to pharmacies and healthcare providers. At this time, the
>> original Prefilled Pen containing Humalog or Humalog Mix75/25 continues
>> to
>> be available, and pharmacies and healthcare providers can order and
>> dispense these to patients until supplies are exhausted.
>>
>> There are several brands and formulations of insulin available. This
>> discontinuation alert only applies to the original Prefilled Pen that
>> contains Humalog, Humalog Mix 75/25, and Humalog Mix 50/50. The Humalog
>> brand of insulin will continue to be available in other delivery options
>> including a pen device called the KwikPen.
>>
>> To learn more about the discontinuation of these products and the
>> available KwikPen Product, please visit:
>> Humalog Pen - http://www.iguard.org/r/0wkhRS8tj4nA
>> Humalog Mix 75/25 Pen - http://www.iguard.org/r/0BA08DvTLkB2
>> Humalog Mix 50/50 Pen - http://www.iguard.org/r/0FPKeIL6GQ
>> ****
>> WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
>>
>> If you use the original Prefilled Pen that contains Humalog, Humalog Mix
>> 75/25, or Humalog Mix 50/50, please be aware that this pen soon may no
>> longer be available in your pharmacy. Please speak to your pharmacist,
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>> whether or not you will need a new prescription for the KwikPen product.
>> If you have concerns about your Humalog or Humalog Mix Product or if you
>> are interested in different insulin delivery options, please speak with
>> our doctor or other healthcare provider managing your diabetes.
>>
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