[Diabetes-talk] Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 45, Issue 13
S Baker
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Sun Apr 17 03:08:21 UTC 2011
SRBaker
When I send Diabetic info from NIH or other accredited sources it never shows up on my email, why? Is there another email address to use or am I being blocked?
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> 1. Re: diabetes apps on the iphone (Julie Kline)
> 2. Re: diabetes apps on the iphone (Mike Freeman)
> 3. Re: diabetes apps on the iphone (dmgina)
> 4. FW: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} FW: Diabetes Update (S Baker)
> 5. FW: [nfb-talk] {Disarmed} FW: Five valuable tips for the
> newly diagnosed (S Baker)
> 6. {Disarmed} FW: Diabetic Foot Update (S Baker)
> 7. Re: diabetes apps on the iphone (Jude DaShiell)
> 8. testing difficulty (Jude DaShiell)
> 9. Re: diabetes apps on the iphone (Blindhands at aol.com)
> 10. Re: diabetes apps on the iphone (Mike Freeman)
> 11. Re: testing difficulty (Mike Freeman)
> 12. Re: testing difficulty (Veronica Elsea)
> 13. Re: testing difficulty (Mike Freeman)
> 14. Re: testing difficulty (Veronica Elsea)
> 15. Re: testing difficulty (Jude DaShiell)
> 16. Re: testing difficulty (Jude DaShiell)
> 17. Re: testing difficulty (Paul & Paula Jordan)
> 18. Re: testing difficulty (d m gina)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:38:24 -0400
> From: "Julie Kline" <julie.kline at rochester.rr.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
> Message-ID: <F2.A6.20102.6BE98AD4 at hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com>
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> I'd be curious to hear back from someone about whether these apps are
> accessible. I've been kicking around the idea of whether or not to buy an
> i-Phone, but I find the whole concept of the flat screen and doing the
> gestures intimidating. Anyway, for a while, I used a file I created in my
> pacmate and wrote down my sugar readings and what I ate in that file, but to
> be honest I haven't been very good about keeping up with it. On a good note
> though, my A1c went down from 8.6 to 7.9. It didn't seem like much to me,
> but my doctor said that even just that little could reduce my chance of a
> heart attack by 10%.
> Have a good weekend.
> Julie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:44 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
>
> I haven't tried any of them. I just use the Elements Dropbox editor and
> create a flat file with my readings on my iPhone which is, of course, synced
> to my computer.
>
> Mike
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 2:41 AM
> To: aiphone at yahoogroups.com
> Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
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> Are any of those apps accessible for VoiceOver and useful enough to be worth
> the download and the space taken up on our iphones?
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:05:59 -0700
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
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> Julie:
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> Congrats on lowering your A1C. You're not there yet (A1C under 7 or 6.5) but you're well on the way. Your doctor is correct: any appreciable decrease in A1C lowers your risk of a heart attack or other diabetic complications.
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> I strongly urge you to start keeping that file on your PacMate again; how else can you spot trends in your readings? I realize this takes discipline and upon a lack of discipline many a diabetes ship has foundered. But you can do it.
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> As for the iPhone, there's a definite learning curve. You won't be a whiz in a day. But I assure you it's quite possible. Get Anna Dresner's and Dean Martineau's book "Getting Started with the iPhone" from National Braille Press. It tells you everything you'll need to know to strip the mystery from i-devices. I don't regret getting my iPhone.
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> Mike Freeman
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> On Apr 15, 2011, at 12:38, "Julie Kline" <julie.kline at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
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> > I'd be curious to hear back from someone about whether these apps are
> > accessible. I've been kicking around the idea of whether or not to buy an
> > i-Phone, but I find the whole concept of the flat screen and doing the
> > gestures intimidating. Anyway, for a while, I used a file I created in my
> > pacmate and wrote down my sugar readings and what I ate in that file, but to
> > be honest I haven't been very good about keeping up with it. On a good note
> > though, my A1c went down from 8.6 to 7.9. It didn't seem like much to me,
> > but my doctor said that even just that little could reduce my chance of a
> > heart attack by 10%.
> > Have a good weekend.
> > Julie
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:44 PM
> > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
> >
> > I haven't tried any of them. I just use the Elements Dropbox editor and
> > create a flat file with my readings on my iPhone which is, of course, synced
> > to my computer.
> >
> > Mike
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 2:41 AM
> > To: aiphone at yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
> >
> > Are any of those apps accessible for VoiceOver and useful enough to be worth
> > the download and the space taken up on our iphones?
> >
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> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:46:43 -0600
> From: dmgina <dmgina at samobile.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
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> I think you are doing well to keep track on the i phone your sugar readings, I also am using the phone just learning email. I would use something to take notes on.
> Dar
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 15, 2011, at 1:38 PM, "Julie Kline" <julie.kline at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
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> > I'd be curious to hear back from someone about whether these apps are
> > accessible. I've been kicking around the idea of whether or not to buy an
> > i-Phone, but I find the whole concept of the flat screen and doing the
> > gestures intimidating. Anyway, for a while, I used a file I created in my
> > pacmate and wrote down my sugar readings and what I ate in that file, but to
> > be honest I haven't been very good about keeping up with it. On a good note
> > though, my A1c went down from 8.6 to 7.9. It didn't seem like much to me,
> > but my doctor said that even just that little could reduce my chance of a
> > heart attack by 10%.
> > Have a good weekend.
> > Julie
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:44 PM
> > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
> >
> > I haven't tried any of them. I just use the Elements Dropbox editor and
> > create a flat file with my readings on my iPhone which is, of course, synced
> > to my computer.
> >
> > Mike
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 2:41 AM
> > To: aiphone at yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
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> > Are any of those apps accessible for VoiceOver and useful enough to be worth
> > the download and the space taken up on our iphones?
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> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:55:41 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
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> If emacs is on your computer, and if you do m-x org-mode <enter> and don't
> read mismatch then org-mode is built into your emacs. If that's the case,
> an iphone app called org-mode is available with which you can sync your
> computer and iphone through org-mode. The command info org will show you
> the documentation for org-mode if the info command is installed too.On
> Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Mike Freeman wrote:
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> > I haven't tried any of them. I just use the Elements Dropbox editor and
> > create a flat file with my readings on my iPhone which is, of course, synced
> > to my computer.
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> > Mike
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 2:41 AM
> > To: aiphone at yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
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> > Are any of those apps accessible for VoiceOver and useful enough to be
> > worth the download and the space taken up on our iphones?
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:21:20 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1104151813410.34472 at freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Very often I'm having difficulty just getting enough blood on the test
> strip to even get a reading. Earlier today I had my hands under warm
> water to try and prevent the capilaries from constricting; work place and
> my apartment are air-conditioned and that didn't even work. The strips
> usually end up sticky by the time the meter shuts off too. I'm using the
> sides of some of my fingers, but not the index fingers since I intend to
> be able to continue reading braile for the rest of my life. The meter I
> have can do alternate site testing but I haven't yet learned the good
> places to do that yet. It's all very frustating!
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:53:12 EDT
> From: Blindhands at aol.com
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
> Message-ID: <1fc6d.71ad70d2.3ada2658 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> The NFB Krafters Division last Sunday had a chat on the I Phone. We had
> several folks that have been using the I Phone for up to and past 2 years
> answering questions.
>
> A lot of information exchanged. We plan on doing another chat in May on
> the I Phone.
>
> We ended up our chat with a list of best used Aps and they did talk briefly
> about the aps for diabetics.
>
> Joyce Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> In a message dated 4/15/2011 4:07:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> k7uij at panix.com writes:
>
> Julie:
>
> Congrats on lowering your A1C. You're not there yet (A1C under 7 or 6.5)
> but you're well on the way. Your doctor is correct: any appreciable
> decrease in A1C lowers your risk of a heart attack or other diabetic
> complications.
>
> I strongly urge you to start keeping that file on your PacMate again; how
> else can you spot trends in your readings? I realize this takes discipline
> and upon a lack of discipline many a diabetes ship has foundered. But you
> can do it.
>
> As for the iPhone, there's a definite learning curve. You won't be a whiz
> in a day. But I assure you it's quite possible. Get Anna Dresner's and
> Dean Martineau's book "Getting Started with the iPhone" from National
> Braille Press. It tells you everything you'll need to know to strip the mystery
> from i-devices. I don't regret getting my iPhone.
>
>
>
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2011, at 12:38, "Julie Kline" <julie.kline at rochester.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'd be curious to hear back from someone about whether these apps are
> > accessible. I've been kicking around the idea of whether or not to buy
> an
> > i-Phone, but I find the whole concept of the flat screen and doing the
> > gestures intimidating. Anyway, for a while, I used a file I created in
> my
> > pacmate and wrote down my sugar readings and what I ate in that file,
> but to
> > be honest I haven't been very good about keeping up with it. On a good
> note
> > though, my A1c went down from 8.6 to 7.9. It didn't seem like much to
> me,
> > but my doctor said that even just that little could reduce my chance of a
> > heart attack by 10%.
> > Have a good weekend.
> > Julie
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:44 PM
> > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
> >
> > I haven't tried any of them. I just use the Elements Dropbox editor and
> > create a flat file with my readings on my iPhone which is, of course,
> synced
> > to my computer.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 2:41 AM
> > To: aiphone at yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
> >
> > Are any of those apps accessible for VoiceOver and useful enough to be
> worth
> > the download and the space taken up on our iphones?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:51:06 -0700
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
> Message-ID: <004401cbfbd8$c0ecc040$42c640c0$@panix.com>
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>
> Hi, Joyce.
>
> Do you remember if any of the diabetes apps talked about were accessible
> using VoiceOver? I've looked at the reviews of several iPhone glucose
> monitoring/logging apps but none have said much about accessibility and
> since I was content to keep my readings on my BrailleSense and then on the
> iPhone using Elements which is a text editor that edits files in one's
> Dropbox folder, I never bothered to investigate further. I've looked at the
> dLife iPHone app and the videos are accessible but many of the other
> functions are not.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Blindhands at aol.com
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:53 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
>
> The NFB Krafters Division last Sunday had a chat on the I Phone. We had
> several folks that have been using the I Phone for up to and past 2 years
> answering questions.
>
> A lot of information exchanged. We plan on doing another chat in May on
> the I Phone.
>
> We ended up our chat with a list of best used Aps and they did talk briefly
> about the aps for diabetics.
>
> Joyce Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> In a message dated 4/15/2011 4:07:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> k7uij at panix.com writes:
>
> Julie:
>
> Congrats on lowering your A1C. You're not there yet (A1C under 7 or 6.5)
> but you're well on the way. Your doctor is correct: any appreciable
> decrease in A1C lowers your risk of a heart attack or other diabetic
> complications.
>
> I strongly urge you to start keeping that file on your PacMate again; how
> else can you spot trends in your readings? I realize this takes discipline
>
> and upon a lack of discipline many a diabetes ship has foundered. But you
> can do it.
>
> As for the iPhone, there's a definite learning curve. You won't be a whiz
> in a day. But I assure you it's quite possible. Get Anna Dresner's and
> Dean Martineau's book "Getting Started with the iPhone" from National
> Braille Press. It tells you everything you'll need to know to strip the
> mystery
> from i-devices. I don't regret getting my iPhone.
>
>
>
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2011, at 12:38, "Julie Kline" <julie.kline at rochester.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'd be curious to hear back from someone about whether these apps are
> > accessible. I've been kicking around the idea of whether or not to buy
> an
> > i-Phone, but I find the whole concept of the flat screen and doing the
> > gestures intimidating. Anyway, for a while, I used a file I created in
> my
> > pacmate and wrote down my sugar readings and what I ate in that file,
> but to
> > be honest I haven't been very good about keeping up with it. On a good
> note
> > though, my A1c went down from 8.6 to 7.9. It didn't seem like much to
> me,
> > but my doctor said that even just that little could reduce my chance of a
> > heart attack by 10%.
> > Have a good weekend.
> > Julie
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:44 PM
> > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
> >
> > I haven't tried any of them. I just use the Elements Dropbox editor and
> > create a flat file with my readings on my iPhone which is, of course,
> synced
> > to my computer.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 2:41 AM
> > To: aiphone at yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] diabetes apps on the iphone
> >
> > Are any of those apps accessible for VoiceOver and useful enough to be
> worth
> > the download and the space taken up on our iphones?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Diabetes-talk mailing list
> > Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
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> 7uij%40panix
> > .com
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 18:58:08 -0700
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
> Message-ID: <004501cbfbd9$bc83cb60$358b6220$@panix.com>
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>
> Jude:
>
> Hang in there. I'd bet there isn't one of us who hasn't gone through the
> same finger-sticking frustrations when we were first diagnosed. This list
> is replete with posts like yours below from many who are now old hands at
> it. Be assured that you will get the hang of it.
>
> It sounds like you're doing a lot of the right things; it's a matter of
> technique and practice. It sounds as though you end up smearing the drop of
> blood; this is not uncommon for blind people. What you want is for the
> blood to stay in a bead so that the little slit in the strip will suck the
> bead up by capillary action. Each person has his/her own method of ensuring
> that the blood doesn't smear but I prefer to hold the finger steady with the
> place you poked facing up and bring the meter/strip to the finger and blood
> and sort of gingerly maneuvering the slit in the strip so it runs into the
> bead of blood. Holding the finger steady keeps me from smearing the blood
> most of the time.
>
> I know one certified diabetes educator who disagrees with me but I maintain
> that, in general, alternate site testing is nigh on impossible for the blind
> to accomplish with precision for the precise reason that people like it --
> you can't feel where you stuck yourself. Besides, especially if yur blood
> glucose level is changing rapidly, finger-testing is more accurate.
>
> I don't use my index fingers either although I think I could. If you're
> lucky, you'll get the consistency of the skin where you poke yourself so
> it's like that of a harpist -- supple and tough but not calassed.
>
> If you go on the NFB site and put "finger-sticking" in the search box,
> you'll get several articles about finger-sticking techniques. There's also
> a version of the article in our "Bridging the Gap" booklet which is
> available on the NFB site in both text and audio versions. If you can't
> find it, I can send you a Word version.
>
> It truly does get easier.
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:21 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
>
> Very often I'm having difficulty just getting enough blood on the test
> strip to even get a reading. Earlier today I had my hands under warm
> water to try and prevent the capilaries from constricting; work place and
> my apartment are air-conditioned and that didn't even work. The strips
> usually end up sticky by the time the meter shuts off too. I'm using the
> sides of some of my fingers, but not the index fingers since I intend to
> be able to continue reading braile for the rest of my life. The meter I
> have can do alternate site testing but I haven't yet learned the good
> places to do that yet. It's all very frustating!
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:32:03 -0700
> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
> Message-ID:
> <mailman.26.1302973208.27016.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org at nfbnet.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> Ah Mike! Lucky guy, you. First, I totally agree with you about
> alternate testing. Not only is it hard to know where you stick
> yourself, but many of the instructions require you to get blood in
> and stop when the clear cap is full. Yeah right!
> But over the past 23 years of testing, I still have phases when it
> goes fairly easily and phases where it's frustration and a half. I'm
> in one of those right now. I had one night last week when it took me
> ten tries before I got a number. What's getting me now is that on
> some of my fingers I have these nice great lumps where I've been
> sticking myself. So when I try to miss that spot, it's really tough
> to get the lancing device to lie flat against my finger to prick deep
> enough to get blood. I'm getting into some pretty wild contortions
> trying to find a spot that works.
> But the biggest area for experimentation is that of how long to milk
> your finger, how long to wait before connecting finger with strip. No
> matter how good we think we are, there is always an element of
> guessing involved. It's so easy to not keep your hand exactly level
> and then the blood can run down and not hit the strip. It's so easy
> to just not have any blood and waste time trying to hold the strip to
> your finger. Oh believe me, I'm not saying we can't do it. I am
> saying we need to be honest about things that can be a part of this
> process. That's the best way to not be done in by thinking everyone
> else is always perfect at it.
> So if you're new at it, don't be afraid to experiment with timing,
> how you milk your finger and all of that. And know that anytime
> you're testing, there just might be another one of us out there
> struggling to get a stick done at the same time. And yes, at the
> moment I'm trying to make adjustments in my basal rates so I'm
> testing 6 to 8 times a day.
> So hang in there and keep us posted.
>
> Veronica
> We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And more!
> Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> 877-607-6407
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:50:08 -0700
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
> Message-ID: <004f01cbfbe1$001969f0$004c3dd0$@panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Veronica:
>
> You are absolutely right. All of us go through stages -- periods when it's
> easy to get blood and periods when it isn't. Actually, I have an additional
> problem: I have Raynaud's Syndrome which causes circulation in the hands to
> be poor or to actually shut down -- I remember one period during the winter
> of 2000-2001 when every two weeks my right thumb and index finger would
> alternately go numb! Didn't make for easy braille reading.
>
> But I still say I'm better at it by far than when I started out; one
> eventually kind of gets a feel for one's meter and strips -- how they act
> and exactly what they like in terms of blood placement.
>
> But we're on the same page!
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:32 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
>
> Ah Mike! Lucky guy, you. First, I totally agree with you about alternate
> testing. Not only is it hard to know where you stick yourself, but many of
> the instructions require you to get blood in and stop when the clear cap is
> full. Yeah right!
> But over the past 23 years of testing, I still have phases when it goes
> fairly easily and phases where it's frustration and a half. I'm in one of
> those right now. I had one night last week when it took me ten tries before
> I got a number. What's getting me now is that on some of my fingers I have
> these nice great lumps where I've been sticking myself. So when I try to
> miss that spot, it's really tough to get the lancing device to lie flat
> against my finger to prick deep enough to get blood. I'm getting into some
> pretty wild contortions trying to find a spot that works.
> But the biggest area for experimentation is that of how long to milk your
> finger, how long to wait before connecting finger with strip. No matter how
> good we think we are, there is always an element of guessing involved. It's
> so easy to not keep your hand exactly level and then the blood can run down
> and not hit the strip. It's so easy to just not have any blood and waste
> time trying to hold the strip to your finger. Oh believe me, I'm not saying
> we can't do it. I am saying we need to be honest about things that can be a
> part of this process. That's the best way to not be done in by thinking
> everyone else is always perfect at it.
> So if you're new at it, don't be afraid to experiment with timing, how you
> milk your finger and all of that. And know that anytime you're testing,
> there just might be another one of us out there struggling to get a stick
> done at the same time. And yes, at the moment I'm trying to make adjustments
> in my basal rates so I'm testing 6 to 8 times a day.
> So hang in there and keep us posted.
>
> Veronica
> We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And more!
> Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> 877-607-6407
>
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:08:10 -0700
> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
> Message-ID:
> <mailman.27.1302973208.27016.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org at nfbnet.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> Interestingly enough, about two months ago, I had a really bad
> rheumatoid arthritis flare and couldn't milk my fingers in the usual
> way. I accidentally discovered that slightly changing the mechanics
> of how I milked my finger improved the amount of blood I got out. It
> was fun while it lasted. <grin.>
> So, anyone here use your thumbs? I don't really know why I haven't,
> but I'm beginning to think about it. But numb fingers would scare the
> living daylights out of me. Even now, once in awhile my braille
> printer will have a bad day and I find myself trying to chase down
> someone who doesn't have diabetes so he or she can reassure me that
> it's bad braille, not neuropathy or something. Sheesh! We humans can
> sure drive ourselves crazy, can't we! <grin.>
> But seriously, the one thing I really notice about having done this
> testing business for a long time is that I've gotten more patient. I
> can sit there and wait longer before moving to the strip. I can pull
> my finger away from the strip, milk it again or even lance it again
> without being quite so worried about time. I don't know. Somehow
> three minutes lasts longer now than it did 23 years ago. Hahahaha!
> But even if I don't get blood, I don't waste quite as many strips.
> Now when I get really rich and famous and just have that full staff,
> I can, oh wait! Then someone else would know my number, forget it!
> I'm on my own! <laughing!>
> Yep, same page all right.
> Take care; talk to ya soon.
>
> Veronica
> We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And more!
> Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> 877-607-6407
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 07:51:59 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1104160744510.54197 at freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg>
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> The little slit on the strip, the strips I have have a slightly rough side
> with edges on sides that feel raised. I could try getting the blood to
> connect very near one of those edges. My test strips have Code F9 on them
> if that's any help and their kill date is April 2012. Thanks all for
> helping with this problem. In my younger years my hands ended up in lots
> of trauma. Invariably the locations ended up looking like murder scenes
> with the blood loss then. On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Mike Freeman wrote:
>
> > Jude:
> >
> > Hang in there. I'd bet there isn't one of us who hasn't gone through the
> > same finger-sticking frustrations when we were first diagnosed. This list
> > is replete with posts like yours below from many who are now old hands at
> > it. Be assured that you will get the hang of it.
> >
> > It sounds like you're doing a lot of the right things; it's a matter of
> > technique and practice. It sounds as though you end up smearing the drop of
> > blood; this is not uncommon for blind people. What you want is for the
> > blood to stay in a bead so that the little slit in the strip will suck the
> > bead up by capillary action. Each person has his/her own method of ensuring
> > that the blood doesn't smear but I prefer to hold the finger steady with the
> > place you poked facing up and bring the meter/strip to the finger and blood
> > and sort of gingerly maneuvering the slit in the strip so it runs into the
> > bead of blood. Holding the finger steady keeps me from smearing the blood
> > most of the time.
> >
> > I know one certified diabetes educator who disagrees with me but I maintain
> > that, in general, alternate site testing is nigh on impossible for the blind
> > to accomplish with precision for the precise reason that people like it --
> > you can't feel where you stuck yourself. Besides, especially if yur blood
> > glucose level is changing rapidly, finger-testing is more accurate.
> >
> > I don't use my index fingers either although I think I could. If you're
> > lucky, you'll get the consistency of the skin where you poke yourself so
> > it's like that of a harpist -- supple and tough but not calassed.
> >
> > If you go on the NFB site and put "finger-sticking" in the search box,
> > you'll get several articles about finger-sticking techniques. There's also
> > a version of the article in our "Bridging the Gap" booklet which is
> > available on the NFB site in both text and audio versions. If you can't
> > find it, I can send you a Word version.
> >
> > It truly does get easier.
> >
> > Mike Freeman
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:21 PM
> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
> >
> > Very often I'm having difficulty just getting enough blood on the test
> > strip to even get a reading. Earlier today I had my hands under warm
> > water to try and prevent the capilaries from constricting; work place and
> > my apartment are air-conditioned and that didn't even work. The strips
> > usually end up sticky by the time the meter shuts off too. I'm using the
> > sides of some of my fingers, but not the index fingers since I intend to
> > be able to continue reading braile for the rest of my life. The meter I
> > have can do alternate site testing but I haven't yet learned the good
> > places to do that yet. It's all very frustating!
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 08:01:23 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
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> Hi Veronica,
>
> I don't have a problem with time. I have a problem with pain!On Fri, 15
> Apr 2011, Veronica Elsea wrote:
>
> > Interestingly enough, about two months ago, I had a really bad rheumatoid
> > arthritis flare and couldn't milk my fingers in the usual way. I accidentally
> > discovered that slightly changing the mechanics of how I milked my finger
> > improved the amount of blood I got out. It was fun while it lasted. <grin.>
> > So, anyone here use your thumbs? I don't really know why I haven't, but I'm
> > beginning to think about it. But numb fingers would scare the living daylights
> > out of me. Even now, once in awhile my braille printer will have a bad day and
> > I find myself trying to chase down someone who doesn't have diabetes so he or
> > she can reassure me that it's bad braille, not neuropathy or something.
> > Sheesh! We humans can sure drive ourselves crazy, can't we! <grin.>
> > But seriously, the one thing I really notice about having done this testing
> > business for a long time is that I've gotten more patient. I can sit there and
> > wait longer before moving to the strip. I can pull my finger away from the
> > strip, milk it again or even lance it again without being quite so worried
> > about time. I don't know. Somehow three minutes lasts longer now than it did
> > 23 years ago. Hahahaha! But even if I don't get blood, I don't waste quite as
> > many strips.
> > Now when I get really rich and famous and just have that full staff, I can, oh
> > wait! Then someone else would know my number, forget it! I'm on my own!
> > <laughing!>
> > Yep, same page all right.
> > Take care; talk to ya soon.
> >
> > Veronica
> > We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And more!
> > Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
> > http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> > Veronica Elsea, Owner
> > Laurel Creek Music Designs
> > Santa Cruz, California
> > 877-607-6407
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 08:25:09 -0400
> From: "Paul & Paula Jordan" <paujor at fuse.net>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
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> I havementioned, I also am not into pain. This has been a wonderfull topic
> in that when I'm having difficulties testing, I find myself feeling like I'm
> the only one dealing with this stuff. Thanks to everybody on the list for
> the encouragement; you're all much appreciated.
>
> Paul contemplated using my thumbs, but haven't done it yet. As you have
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:01 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
>
> Hi Veronica,
>
> I don't have a problem with time. I have a problem with pain!On Fri, 15
> Apr 2011, Veronica Elsea wrote:
>
> > Interestingly enough, about two months ago, I had a really bad rheumatoid
> > arthritis flare and couldn't milk my fingers in the usual way. I
> accidentally
> > discovered that slightly changing the mechanics of how I milked my finger
> > improved the amount of blood I got out. It was fun while it lasted.
> <grin.>
> > So, anyone here use your thumbs? I don't really know why I haven't, but
> I'm
> > beginning to think about it. But numb fingers would scare the living
> daylights
> > out of me. Even now, once in awhile my braille printer will have a bad day
> and
> > I find myself trying to chase down someone who doesn't have diabetes so he
> or
> > she can reassure me that it's bad braille, not neuropathy or something.
> > Sheesh! We humans can sure drive ourselves crazy, can't we! <grin.>
> > But seriously, the one thing I really notice about having done this
> testing
> > business for a long time is that I've gotten more patient. I can sit there
> and
> > wait longer before moving to the strip. I can pull my finger away from the
> > strip, milk it again or even lance it again without being quite so worried
> > about time. I don't know. Somehow three minutes lasts longer now than it
> did
> > 23 years ago. Hahahaha! But even if I don't get blood, I don't waste quite
> as
> > many strips.
> > Now when I get really rich and famous and just have that full staff, I
> can, oh
> > wait! Then someone else would know my number, forget it! I'm on my own!
> > <laughing!>
> > Yep, same page all right.
> > Take care; talk to ya soon.
> >
> > Veronica
> > We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And more!
> > Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
> > http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> > Veronica Elsea, Owner
> > Laurel Creek Music Designs
> > Santa Cruz, California
> > 877-607-6407
> >
> >
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> >
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 10:33:17 -0400
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing difficulty
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> Hello,
> Yes I do use my thumbs.
> I know then I can't read with them tried giggle, and the braille felt
> funny to them.
> So I gave it up.
> I have learned to do the sides of my fingers as well.
> So I will do one side then the other on the same finger.
> That seems to help as well.
> I hate it when I don't feel the braille either, especiallly when I love
> to read at mass.
> I work hard, and have learned to read a spell slower, then I can tell
> what the braille is saying.
> Smile.
>
> Original message:
> > Interestingly enough, about two months ago, I had a really bad
> > rheumatoid arthritis flare and couldn't milk my fingers in the usual
> > way. I accidentally discovered that slightly changing the mechanics
> > of how I milked my finger improved the amount of blood I got out. It
> > was fun while it lasted. <grin.>
> > So, anyone here use your thumbs? I don't really know why I haven't,
> > but I'm beginning to think about it. But numb fingers would scare the
> > living daylights out of me. Even now, once in awhile my braille
> > printer will have a bad day and I find myself trying to chase down
> > someone who doesn't have diabetes so he or she can reassure me that
> > it's bad braille, not neuropathy or something. Sheesh! We humans can
> > sure drive ourselves crazy, can't we! <grin.>
> > But seriously, the one thing I really notice about having done this
> > testing business for a long time is that I've gotten more patient. I
> > can sit there and wait longer before moving to the strip. I can pull
> > my finger away from the strip, milk it again or even lance it again
> > without being quite so worried about time. I don't know. Somehow
> > three minutes lasts longer now than it did 23 years ago. Hahahaha!
> > But even if I don't get blood, I don't waste quite as many strips.
> > Now when I get really rich and famous and just have that full staff,
> > I can, oh wait! Then someone else would know my number, forget it!
> > I'm on my own! <laughing!>
> > Yep, same page all right.
> > Take care; talk to ya soon.
>
> > Veronica
> > We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And more!
> > Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
> > http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> > Veronica Elsea, Owner
> > Laurel Creek Music Designs
> > Santa Cruz, California
> > 877-607-6407
>
>
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