[Diabetes-talk] Couple of things...

d m gina dmgina at samobile.net
Sat Jan 22 01:40:51 UTC 2011


My machine will do just that.
Give a low reding, I just start over and not worry about it.
If that is all it will do for me, then I know I have a swell machine.
Much better than what I was working with.

Original message:
> Firstly Lynn, being that I am a consultant with Prodigy, I'll inform you
> that We have quite a few folks from Prodigy who not only frequent this list,
> but have been on it as recippients of this list for years now.  I, in fact,
> have seen to that as I have merely insisted that they make themselves privy
> to what people say about them and the company and keep eyes and ears peeled
> out for suggestions on how to improve their product.  Illustrations just
> like what you're referring to are exactly the reason.  These things are
> entirely unacceptable and they need to know that.  That was my reasoning
> behind it all way from the very beginning.  I'm not going any further than
> that.

> Veronica, You're hysterical and phantabulous all at the same time!  You're a
> blast!!

> Bern
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>> Today's Topics:

>>   1. Hats off to Mike and Veronica!!! (William and Bernadette Jacobs)
>>   2. Re: Hats off to Mike and Veronica!!! (tom)
>>   3. testing times and results (Grant E. Metcalf)
>>   4. Re: Hats off to Mike and Veronica!!! (Veronica Elsea)
>>   5. Re: when to test blood sugar and Prodigy Voice problem
>>      (Lynn Baillif)
>>   6. Re: testing times and results (d m gina)
>>   7. Eli Lily Humalog QuikPen (Mike Freeman)
>>   8. Re: Eli Lily Humalog QuikPen (d m gina)
>>   9. Re: testing times and results (Mike Freeman)
>>  10. Re: Eli Lily Humalog QuikPen (Mike Freeman)
>>  11. Re: Eli Lily Humalog QuikPen (cheryl echevarria)
>>  12. Re: testing times and results (Kelly Massaro)


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>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:32:23 -0500
>> From: "William and Bernadette Jacobs" <bandbjacobs at verizon.net>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Hats off to Mike and Veronica!!!
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>> I concur with both of them!  together, they've said everything I would've
>> gang, so I'm going to stop right here.  Have a great day!

>> Bern
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>>>   1. Re: Checking Sugar (d m gina)
>>>   2. Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice
>>>      (Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni)
>>>   3. Re: Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice (Tamera)
>>>   4. Re: Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice (Mike Freeman)
>>>   5. Re: Random incorrect readings with prodigy  voice (Veronica Elsea)
>>>   6. Re: Random incorrect readings with prodigy  voice (Mike Freeman)
>>>   7. New Blog Posted (Bridgit Pollpeter)
>>>   8. I pray every day for the health of my beloved and recovery
>>>      from diabetes and loss of his voice (tom)


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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:11:08 -0500
>>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Checking Sugar
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>>> I was told to check before each meal and then at night before I go to
>>> bed.
>>> Then you have an idea what is happening durhning the night, if it
>>> raises or what it does.
>>> Mine raises.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi All,

>>>> When is the best time to check your sugar?  I heard around 3 to 5 years
>>>> ago, that you take it 2 hours after you have eaten.

>>>> Steve Cook
>>>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>>>> SC Commission for the Blind
>>>> 1430 Confederate Avenue
>>>> Columbia, SC 29201
>>>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>>>> Fax: (803) 898-8882
>>>> E-Mail: stcook at sccb.sc.gov


>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of tom
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:03 AM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Question about accessible materials either
>>>> in Braille or other media


>>>> Exactly what I have said all my life:  for each and every body the
>>>> chemistry is different.  We may have the same rights under the
>>>> Constitution and the Holy Books may say we are all equal in God's eye
>>>> but the reality of life is:  our DNA IS SO VERY UNIQUE THAT WHAT IS
>>>> IDEAL FOR ONE MAY BE UTTER POISON FOR ANOTHER.

>>>> Personally, I had migraine headaches for years and certain items would
>>>> trigger me and even emotional blocking for not being able to do things
>>>> would trigger frustrations.  Fortunately, my chemistry changed with the
>>>> change of life.  I was a new person and nowadays I can eat almost
>>>> anything.

>>>> One must remember we are not a piece of plastic; we as humans are
>>>> continuously changing.  We are NOT GOING TO BE IN THIS CHEMISTRY BODY
>>>> FOREVER. Change is ongoing as we are HUMANS.  Regards.






>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Jan 17, 2011 10:17 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Question about accessible materials either
>>>> in Braille or other media


>>>> Julie:
>>>> I've never heard of the "Eat This Not That" book so can't give you a
>>>> ecommendation.  However, current progressive diabetes worker thinking
>>>> tends o be that you should learn proper eating principles, talk with a
>>>> dietitian even if you have to pay for it) and come up with a food plan
>>>> that imultaneously meets your likes and dislikes and is relatively
>>>> iabetes-healthy.  The fly in the ointment is that what's a healthy diet
>>>> for ne diabetic may not be for another although there are some
>>>> enerally-accepted principles.
>>>> Were I you, I'd ask the person who adamantly recommends the book if
>>>> he/she s so "sent" by it, would he/she read it to you.  But, frankly,
>>>> you're
>>>> going* to have to do a bit of studying, i.e., from BARD and RFB&D.  As
>>>> I rote earlier, read Gretchen Becker's book.  It won't give you menus
>>>> but it ill give you the knowledge to design your own menus.  Also, the
>>>> Joslin and merican Diabetes Association guides, available on BARD, talk
>>>> quite a bit bout food and BARD has several diabetes cookbooks that have
>>>> lots of recipes nd meal plans.  Even the book on BARD, "Sex and
>>>> Diabetes" has a discussion f meal plans.  I disagree with some of its
>>>> principles but it's a good tart.
>>>> Talk about Atkins will get you ostracized by some diabetes workers
>>>> including any at the American Diabetes Association.  However, even ADA
>>>> is beginning o get the message that low-carb often works quite well for
>>>> diabetics.  You ave to figure out what works for you.
>>>> Mike

>>>> ----Original Message-----
>>>> rom: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Kline
>>>> ent: Monday, January 17, 2011 4:56 PM
>>>> o: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> ubject: [Diabetes-talk] Question about accessible materials either in
>>>> raille or other media Good evening, I have a few questions.  When the
>>>> diabetes diagnosis happened about two onths ago, I had some reading
>>>> that was recommended for me.  In addition, it as also suggested I call
>>>> the diabetes association and see what materials I ould get from there.
>>>> When I called them, they had a print packet they said hey could send
>>>> out, but nothing in braille.  They gave me three rganizations to call,
>>>> NFB was the only one that panned out anything.  One rganization I
>>>> couldn't get a hold of a person at all.  The other very udely insisted
>>>> that the diabetes association was supposed to be providing raille
>>>> materials to me "because it's their material" and she was tired of hem
>>>> giving out the number to the organization I had just called.
>>>> pparently it happens all the time, according to the receptionist -- no
>>>> new emberships wanted for them.  So my question is does the diabetes
>>>> ssociation have anything they offer themselves other than in print, or
>>>> am I ooking at just going through BARD or something like that?
>>>> Also the other question I have is that one of the diet people I'm
>>>> meeting ith absolutely insists on using a book called Eat This Not
>>>> That.  From what he read to me of it, it tells you how many calories
>>>> are in certain foods nd offers alternitive suggestions.  I like the
>>>> parts of the book that were ead that offer menu suggestions and what a
>>>> few meals would look like.
>>>> ight now I feel like I'm on information overload and could really use
>>>> omething with more structure.  Unfortunately, this book is not
>>>> available hrough NLS/BARD, RFB & D, National Braille Press, Bookshare,
>>>> or any other ccessible media sites I know of.  Amazon only has it in
>>>> print, which of ourse I can't read.  Being the book is over 200 pages,
>>>> asking someone to ead it for me probably isn't going to happen.  Does
>>>> anyone know of a book hat is similar in structure to this one where
>>>> they give you menus and other ood options?  I know I can get some of
>>>> the weight watchers books online, nd have even looked at the Atkins
>>>> diet because they are a low-carb diet nyway.  Any thoughts on that diet?
>>>> Ok, I've rambled enough.  I guess it's just frustration with everything
>>>> rying to get out.
>>>> Have a good evening.
>>>> ulie

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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:22:02 -0800
>>> From: "Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni" <rovadia82 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice
>>> Message-ID: <F36B2DAE66824E2EB7C4F8BC4B9CD781 at RONITLAP>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>> Hi again everyone,
>>> Sorry to be a bother, but thank you to everyone who has helped me out so
>>> far. I was just wondering if any of you have had this experience.
>>> Sometimes
>>> when I test, I will get a reading that I know is incorrect. Usually it's
>>> a
>>> very low reading, somewhere around 40 or 50. When I retest with a new
>>> strip,
>>> this is corrected and I get a reading that sounds more believable. I
>>> thought
>>> this was happening when it took me a while to get blood on the strip but
>>> I
>>> have found that it is stil happening even when I get the blood on the
>>> strip
>>> easily. I had someone sighted help me a few times and it was even
>>> happening
>>> when I had help. Granted it doesn't happen every time but it's quite
>>> anoying
>>> to have to prick myself twice after I get a reading that is incorrect.
>>> Also,
>>> I have checked that my meter is working properly with the control
>>> solution
>>> and it gives an accurate reading. Have any of you ever had this problem?
>>> Anything I can do to prevent it? Thanks so much!
>>> Ronit



>>> ------------------------------

>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:31:18 -0800
>>> From: "Tamera" <fidano at comcast.net>
>>> To: <rovadia82 at gmail.com>, "Diabetes Talk for the Blind"
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy
>>> voice
>>> Message-ID: <DAC270FB8199477E9087D2789CC7DACF at 24ktPC>
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>>> reply-type=original

>>> Yes.... I am now trying the soloV. I had a better A1C, which using the
>>> prodigy and even checking a few times to make sure and using sighted
>>> help,
>>> after a few years I had doubts.
>>> It would be nice to see prodigy offer  a not enough blood as the soloV
>>> does, but as you said and I encountered too... it looks good but  what
>>> can
>>> you do but go with the reading, especially after visual help and a few
>>> tries
>>> with same numbers.
>>> I note the solo/V gives me  a higher low then I believe I am having, my
>>> symptoms... but  first A1C is more what I'd expect.
>>> I still like the prodigy product and more avenues to by strips.. I will
>>> mention one gripe on the soloV is  I do not see how the strips being in
>>> the
>>> vial up and down make for  good specimens, as its nice to know if the
>>> strip
>>> is coming out insertion side  out or toward in as to not do too much
>>> touching the test end.. but there it is.

>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni" <rovadia82 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:22 PM
>>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice

>>>> Hi again everyone,
>>>> Sorry to be a bother, but thank you to everyone who has helped me out so
>>>> far. I was just wondering if any of you have had this experience.
>>>> Sometimes
>>>> when I test, I will get a reading that I know is incorrect. Usually it's
>>>> a
>>>> very low reading, somewhere around 40 or 50. When I retest with a new
>>>> strip,
>>>> this is corrected and I get a reading that sounds more believable. I
>>>> thought
>>>> this was happening when it took me a while to get blood on the strip but
>>>> I
>>>> have found that it is stil happening even when I get the blood on the
>>>> strip
>>>> easily. I had someone sighted help me a few times and it was even
>>>> happening
>>>> when I had help. Granted it doesn't happen every time but it's quite
>>>> anoying
>>>> to have to prick myself twice after I get a reading that is incorrect.
>>>> Also,
>>>> I have checked that my meter is working properly with the control
>>>> solution
>>>> and it gives an accurate reading. Have any of you ever had this problem?
>>>> Anything I can do to prevent it? Thanks so much!
>>>> Ronit

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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:52:00 -0800
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: <rovadia82 at gmail.com>, "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy
>>> voice
>>> Message-ID: <00d701cbb855$652fe640$2f8fb2c0$@panix.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>> Ronit:

>>> Every meter on the planet does this occasionally (there are some who will
>>> dispute this but this is my experience).  Moreover, you will get to know
>>> the
>>> meter well enough that you will know from its respone whether the reading
>>> is
>>> likely to be incorrect.

>>> I think you will find that when you think you have enough blood on the
>>> strip
>>> but the reading is wrong, most often the blood is smeared a bit so that
>>> while the strip appears saturated, the area with the chemical reagent is
>>> not.

>>> The Solo V2 is a bit less prone to this behavior.  However, it has the
>>> show-stopping drawback at the moment that the times of readings from
>>> memory
>>> are not spoken.

>>> Mike


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ronit Ovadia
>>> Mazzoni
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:22 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice

>>> Hi again everyone,
>>> Sorry to be a bother, but thank you to everyone who has helped me out so
>>> far. I was just wondering if any of you have had this experience.
>>> Sometimes
>>> when I test, I will get a reading that I know is incorrect. Usually it's
>>> a
>>> very low reading, somewhere around 40 or 50. When I retest with a new
>>> strip,
>>> this is corrected and I get a reading that sounds more believable. I
>>> thought
>>> this was happening when it took me a while to get blood on the strip but
>>> I
>>> have found that it is stil happening even when I get the blood on the
>>> strip
>>> easily. I had someone sighted help me a few times and it was even
>>> happening
>>> when I had help. Granted it doesn't happen every time but it's quite
>>> anoying
>>> to have to prick myself twice after I get a reading that is incorrect.
>>> Also,
>>> I have checked that my meter is working properly with the control
>>> solution
>>> and it gives an accurate reading. Have any of you ever had this problem?
>>> Anything I can do to prevent it? Thanks so much!
>>> Ronit

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>>> ------------------------------

>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:09:55 -0800
>>> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy
>>> voice
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <mailman.40.1295546409.19530.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org at nfbnet.org>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

>>> It is possible when putting blood on the Prodigy strip to completely
>>> miss a corner area. Sorry, I'm less kind on this topic. There's no
>>> excuse with today's technology for meters that start testing before
>>> there's enough blood. If I knew what the reading ought to be, I sure
>>> wouldn't be beating up on my fingers! In the vast range of meters
>>> available to sighted people, there are some that are so much better
>>> in that they don't perform the test if there isn't enough blood. It's
>>> why I've held off on using the prodigy. I hope that a future model
>>> takes care of this problem, I really do.
>>> Veronica
>>> We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And more!
>>> Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> 877-607-6407




>>> ------------------------------

>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:29:21 -0800
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy
>>> voice
>>> Message-ID: <001601cbb862$fe609780$fb21c680$@panix.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>> Veronica:

>>> I don't disagree with you.  In fact, I consider *all* meters on the
>>> market,
>>> be they for the blind or sighted, abysmally lower in accuracy and
>>> consistency than they could be!  But we probably wouldn't want to pay the
>>> price for the sort of meter I'm dreaming of! <g>

>>> Mike


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:10 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice

>>> It is possible when putting blood on the Prodigy strip to completely
>>> miss a corner area. Sorry, I'm less kind on this topic. There's no
>>> excuse with today's technology for meters that start testing before
>>> there's enough blood. If I knew what the reading ought to be, I sure
>>> wouldn't be beating up on my fingers! In the vast range of meters
>>> available to sighted people, there are some that are so much better
>>> in that they don't perform the test if there isn't enough blood. It's
>>> why I've held off on using the prodigy. I hope that a future model
>>> takes care of this problem, I really do.
>>> Veronica
>>> We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And more!
>>> Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> 877-607-6407


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>>> ------------------------------

>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:44:37 -0600
>>> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] New Blog Posted
>>> Message-ID: <SNT136-w24A00005F98CD67E0A2AC4C4F90 at phx.gbl>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


>>> Hello,

>>> A new blog, Hope for the Future, posted today.  Please check it out at
>>> http://www.livewellnebraska.com
>>> Make sure to look for the link with my full name, Bridgit
>>> Kuenning-Pollpeter, on the homepage, or go to the Meet the Bloggers link
>>> and look for my full name there.

>>> Thanks for the support.

>>> Sincerely,
>>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter

>>> ------------------------------

>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:57:21 -0500 (EST)
>>> From: tom <jlv810g at aol.com>
>>> To: Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I pray every day for the health of my beloved
>>> and recovery from diabetes and loss of his voice
>>> Message-ID: <8CD86D1DAFF0D5B-A8C-9D4A at webmail-m055.sysops.aol.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>> Continual research is ongoing for these anomalies  God will answer with
>>> timely advice!




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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:57:56 -0500 (EST)
>> From: tom <jlv810g at aol.com>
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Hats off to Mike and Veronica!!!
>> Message-ID: <8CD86FBD8902A71-398-139B0 at Webmail-d115.sysops.aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>> Thank you for sharing.  Together we learn.  Regards





>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: William and Bernadette Jacobs <bandbjacobs at verizon.net>
>> To: diabetes-talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 1:33 pm
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Hats off to Mike and Veronica!!!


>> I concur with both of them!  together, they've said everything I would've
>> ang, so I'm going to stop right here.  Have a great day!
>> Bern
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>> Today's Topics:

>>   1. Re: Checking Sugar (d m gina)
>>   2. Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice
>>      (Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni)
>>   3. Re: Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice (Tamera)
>>   4. Re: Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice (Mike Freeman)
>>   5. Re: Random incorrect readings with prodigy  voice (Veronica Elsea)
>>   6. Re: Random incorrect readings with prodigy  voice (Mike Freeman)
>>   7. New Blog Posted (Bridgit Pollpeter)
>>   8. I pray every day for the health of my beloved and recovery
>>      from diabetes and loss of his voice (tom)


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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:11:08 -0500
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Checking Sugar
>> Message-ID:
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>> I was told to check before each meal and then at night before I go to bed.
>> Then you have an idea what is happening durhning the night, if it
>> raises or what it does.
>> Mine raises.

>> Original message:
>>> Hi All,

>>> When is the best time to check your sugar?  I heard around 3 to 5 years
>>> ago, that you take it 2 hours after you have eaten.

>>> Steve Cook
>>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> SC Commission for the Blind
>>> 1430 Confederate Avenue
>>> Columbia, SC 29201
>>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>>> Fax: (803) 898-8882
>>> E-Mail: stcook at sccb.sc.gov


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of tom
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:03 AM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Question about accessible materials either
>>> in Braille or other media


>>> Exactly what I have said all my life:  for each and every body the
>>> chemistry is different.  We may have the same rights under the
>>> Constitution and the Holy Books may say we are all equal in God's eye
>>> but the reality of life is:  our DNA IS SO VERY UNIQUE THAT WHAT IS
>>> IDEAL FOR ONE MAY BE UTTER POISON FOR ANOTHER.

>>> Personally, I had migraine headaches for years and certain items would
>>> trigger me and even emotional blocking for not being able to do things
>>> would trigger frustrations.  Fortunately, my chemistry changed with the
>>> change of life.  I was a new person and nowadays I can eat almost
>>> anything.

>>> One must remember we are not a piece of plastic; we as humans are
>>> continuously changing.  We are NOT GOING TO BE IN THIS CHEMISTRY BODY
>>> FOREVER. Change is ongoing as we are HUMANS.  Regards.






>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Mon, Jan 17, 2011 10:17 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Question about accessible materials either
>>> in Braille or other media


>>> Julie:
>>> I've never heard of the "Eat This Not That" book so can't give you a
>>> ecommendation.  However, current progressive diabetes worker thinking
>>> tends o be that you should learn proper eating principles, talk with a
>>> dietitian even if you have to pay for it) and come up with a food plan
>>> that imultaneously meets your likes and dislikes and is relatively
>>> iabetes-healthy.  The fly in the ointment is that what's a healthy diet
>>> for ne diabetic may not be for another although there are some
>>> enerally-accepted principles.
>>> Were I you, I'd ask the person who adamantly recommends the book if
>>> he/she s so "sent" by it, would he/she read it to you.  But, frankly,
>>> you're
>>> going* to have to do a bit of studying, i.e., from BARD and RFB&D.  As
>>> I rote earlier, read Gretchen Becker's book.  It won't give you menus
>>> but it ill give you the knowledge to design your own menus.  Also, the
>>> Joslin and merican Diabetes Association guides, available on BARD, talk
>>> quite a bit bout food and BARD has several diabetes cookbooks that have
>>> lots of recipes nd meal plans.  Even the book on BARD, "Sex and
>>> Diabetes" has a discussion f meal plans.  I disagree with some of its
>>> principles but it's a good tart.
>>> Talk about Atkins will get you ostracized by some diabetes workers
>>> including any at the American Diabetes Association.  However, even ADA
>>> is beginning o get the message that low-carb often works quite well for
>>> diabetics.  You ave to figure out what works for you.
>>> Mike

>>> ----Original Message-----
>>> rom: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Kline
>>> ent: Monday, January 17, 2011 4:56 PM
>>> o: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>> ubject: [Diabetes-talk] Question about accessible materials either in
>>> raille or other media Good evening, I have a few questions.  When the
>>> diabetes diagnosis happened about two onths ago, I had some reading
>>> that was recommended for me.  In addition, it as also suggested I call
>>> the diabetes association and see what materials I ould get from there.
>>> When I called them, they had a print packet they said hey could send
>>> out, but nothing in braille.  They gave me three rganizations to call,
>>> NFB was the only one that panned out anything.  One rganization I
>>> couldn't get a hold of a person at all.  The other very udely insisted
>>> that the diabetes association was supposed to be providing raille
>>> materials to me "because it's their material" and she was tired of hem
>>> giving out the number to the organization I had just called.
>>> pparently it happens all the time, according to the receptionist -- no
>>> new emberships wanted for them.  So my question is does the diabetes
>>> ssociation have anything they offer themselves other than in print, or
>>> am I ooking at just going through BARD or something like that?
>>> Also the other question I have is that one of the diet people I'm
>>> meeting ith absolutely insists on using a book called Eat This Not
>>> That.  From what he read to me of it, it tells you how many calories
>>> are in certain foods nd offers alternitive suggestions.  I like the
>>> parts of the book that were ead that offer menu suggestions and what a
>>> few meals would look like.
>>> ight now I feel like I'm on information overload and could really use
>>> omething with more structure.  Unfortunately, this book is not
>>> available hrough NLS/BARD, RFB & D, National Braille Press, Bookshare,
>>> or any other ccessible media sites I know of.  Amazon only has it in
>>> print, which of ourse I can't read.  Being the book is over 200 pages,
>>> asking someone to ead it for me probably isn't going to happen.  Does
>>> anyone know of a book hat is similar in structure to this one where
>>> they give you menus and other ood options?  I know I can get some of
>>> the weight watchers books online, nd have even looked at the Atkins
>>> diet because they are a low-carb diet nyway.  Any thoughts on that diet?
>>> Ok, I've rambled enough.  I guess it's just frustration with everything
>>> rying to get out.
>>> Have a good evening.
>>> ulie

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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:22:02 -0800
>> From: "Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni" <rovadia82 at gmail.com>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice
>> Message-ID: <F36B2DAE66824E2EB7C4F8BC4B9CD781 at RONITLAP>
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>> Hi again everyone,
>> Sorry to be a bother, but thank you to everyone who has helped me out so
>> far. I was just wondering if any of you have had this experience.
>> Sometimes
>> when I test, I will get a reading that I know is incorrect. Usually it's a
>> very low reading, somewhere around 40 or 50. When I retest with a new
>> strip,
>> this is corrected and I get a reading that sounds more believable. I
>> thought
>> this was happening when it took me a while to get blood on the strip but I
>> have found that it is stil happening even when I get the blood on the
>> strip
>> easily. I had someone sighted help me a few times and it was even
>> happening
>> when I had help. Granted it doesn't happen every time but it's quite
>> anoying
>> to have to prick myself twice after I get a reading that is incorrect.
>> Also,
>> I have checked that my meter is working properly with the control solution
>> and it gives an accurate reading. Have any of you ever had this problem?
>> Anything I can do to prevent it? Thanks so much!
>> Ronit



>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:31:18 -0800
>> From: "Tamera" <fidano at comcast.net>
>> To: <rovadia82 at gmail.com>, "Diabetes Talk for the Blind"
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy
>> voice
>> Message-ID: <DAC270FB8199477E9087D2789CC7DACF at 24ktPC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original

>> Yes.... I am now trying the soloV. I had a better A1C, which using the
>> prodigy and even checking a few times to make sure and using sighted help,
>> after a few years I had doubts.
>> It would be nice to see prodigy offer  a not enough blood as the soloV
>> does, but as you said and I encountered too... it looks good but  what can
>> you do but go with the reading, especially after visual help and a few
>> tries
>> with same numbers.
>> I note the solo/V gives me  a higher low then I believe I am having, my
>> symptoms... but  first A1C is more what I'd expect.
>> I still like the prodigy product and more avenues to by strips.. I will
>> mention one gripe on the soloV is  I do not see how the strips being in
>> the
>> vial up and down make for  good specimens, as its nice to know if the
>> strip
>> is coming out insertion side  out or toward in as to not do too much
>> touching the test end.. but there it is.

>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni" <rovadia82 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:22 PM
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice

>>> Hi again everyone,
>>> Sorry to be a bother, but thank you to everyone who has helped me out so
>>> far. I was just wondering if any of you have had this experience.
>>> Sometimes
>>> when I test, I will get a reading that I know is incorrect. Usually it's
>>> a
>>> very low reading, somewhere around 40 or 50. When I retest with a new
>>> strip,
>>> this is corrected and I get a reading that sounds more believable. I
>>> thought
>>> this was happening when it took me a while to get blood on the strip but
>>> I
>>> have found that it is stil happening even when I get the blood on the
>>> strip
>>> easily. I had someone sighted help me a few times and it was even
>>> happening
>>> when I had help. Granted it doesn't happen every time but it's quite
>>> anoying
>>> to have to prick myself twice after I get a reading that is incorrect.
>>> Also,
>>> I have checked that my meter is working properly with the control
>>> solution
>>> and it gives an accurate reading. Have any of you ever had this problem?
>>> Anything I can do to prevent it? Thanks so much!
>>> Ronit

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>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:52:00 -0800
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: <rovadia82 at gmail.com>, "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy
>> voice
>> Message-ID: <00d701cbb855$652fe640$2f8fb2c0$@panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>> Ronit:

>> Every meter on the planet does this occasionally (there are some who will
>> dispute this but this is my experience).  Moreover, you will get to know
>> the
>> meter well enough that you will know from its respone whether the reading
>> is
>> likely to be incorrect.

>> I think you will find that when you think you have enough blood on the
>> strip
>> but the reading is wrong, most often the blood is smeared a bit so that
>> while the strip appears saturated, the area with the chemical reagent is
>> not.

>> The Solo V2 is a bit less prone to this behavior.  However, it has the
>> show-stopping drawback at the moment that the times of readings from
>> memory
>> are not spoken.

>> Mike


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ronit Ovadia
>> Mazzoni
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:22 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice

>> Hi again everyone,
>> Sorry to be a bother, but thank you to everyone who has helped me out so
>> far. I was just wondering if any of you have had this experience.
>> Sometimes
>> when I test, I will get a reading that I know is incorrect. Usually it's a
>> very low reading, somewhere around 40 or 50. When I retest with a new
>> strip,
>> this is corrected and I get a reading that sounds more believable. I
>> thought
>> this was happening when it took me a while to get blood on the strip but I
>> have found that it is stil happening even when I get the blood on the
>> strip
>> easily. I had someone sighted help me a few times and it was even
>> happening
>> when I had help. Granted it doesn't happen every time but it's quite
>> anoying
>> to have to prick myself twice after I get a reading that is incorrect.
>> Also,
>> I have checked that my meter is working properly with the control solution
>> and it gives an accurate reading. Have any of you ever had this problem?
>> Anything I can do to prevent it? Thanks so much!
>> Ronit

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>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:09:55 -0800
>> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy
>> voice
>> Message-ID:
>> <mailman.40.1295546409.19530.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org at nfbnet.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

>> It is possible when putting blood on the Prodigy strip to completely
>> miss a corner area. Sorry, I'm less kind on this topic. There's no
>> excuse with today's technology for meters that start testing before
>> there's enough blood. If I knew what the reading ought to be, I sure
>> wouldn't be beating up on my fingers! In the vast range of meters
>> available to sighted people, there are some that are so much better
>> in that they don't perform the test if there isn't enough blood. It's
>> why I've held off on using the prodigy. I hope that a future model
>> takes care of this problem, I really do.
>> Veronica
>> We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And more!
>> Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> 877-607-6407




>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:29:21 -0800
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy
>> voice
>> Message-ID: <001601cbb862$fe609780$fb21c680$@panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>> Veronica:

>> I don't disagree with you.  In fact, I consider *all* meters on the
>> market,
>> be they for the blind or sighted, abysmally lower in accuracy and
>> consistency than they could be!  But we probably wouldn't want to pay the
>> price for the sort of meter I'm dreaming of! <g>

>> Mike


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:10 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with prodigy voice

>> It is possible when putting blood on the Prodigy strip to completely
>> miss a corner area. Sorry, I'm less kind on this topic. There's no
>> excuse with today's technology for meters that start testing before
>> there's enough blood. If I knew what the reading ought to be, I sure
>> wouldn't be beating up on my fingers! In the vast range of meters
>> available to sighted people, there are some that are so much better
>> in that they don't perform the test if there isn't enough blood. It's
>> why I've held off on using the prodigy. I hope that a future model
>> takes care of this problem, I really do.
>> Veronica
>> We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And more!
>> Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> 877-607-6407


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>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:44:37 -0600
>> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] New Blog Posted
>> Message-ID: <SNT136-w24A00005F98CD67E0A2AC4C4F90 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


>> Hello,

>> A new blog, Hope for the Future, posted today.  Please check it out at
>> http://www.livewellnebraska.com
>> Make sure to look for the link with my full name, Bridgit
>> Kuenning-Pollpeter, on the homepage, or go to the Meet the Bloggers link
>> and look for my full name there.

>> Thanks for the support.

>> Sincerely,
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter

>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:57:21 -0500 (EST)
>> From: tom <jlv810g at aol.com>
>> To: Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I pray every day for the health of my beloved
>> and recovery from diabetes and loss of his voice
>> Message-ID: <8CD86D1DAFF0D5B-A8C-9D4A at webmail-m055.sysops.aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>> Continual research is ongoing for these anomalies  God will answer with
>> timely advice!




>> ------------------------------

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>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:20:41 -0800
>> From: "Grant E. Metcalf" <thegems at dslextreme.com>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] testing times and results
>> Message-ID: <A3DE55BBDE844B758451A9259779FD15 at user2868093fd9>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original

>> Greetings,

>> Recently my sugars have been much higher and I was wondering if it might
>> be
>> due to the meter and so I was happy to read the various remarks over the
>> last couple of days about when to test and meter reliability. Well, I
>> guess
>> it was the two month long holiday feasting that was most responsible and,
>> of
>> course, I am a victim where such is concerned! That is the right view,
>> isn't
>> it?

>> Happy to say, however, that when I started testing more frequently than
>> once
>> in the morning and watching my diet more closely, along with an increase
>> in
>> exercise this last week, the BG levels dropped down more to a level I
>> like.
>> I guess that only goes to prove the often repeated here axiom that "We are
>> the ones most responsible and best suited for our own diabetes
>> management."
>> I must say that when it comes to self-control, I am also glad that God is
>> there to help me!

>> Listening for His shout!

>> Grant Metcalf
>> Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:40:38 -0800
>> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Hats off to Mike and Veronica!!!
>> Message-ID:
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>> You know, anybody here remember more than ten years ago when the
>> first promises of non-invasive meters started coming out? The
>> companies were kind of stuck trying to figure out what people would
>> buy on a recurring basis in place of strips. <grin.> The argument
>> was, nobody will pay a big up-front cost for a meter. My answer is
>> still the same today. Wanta bet? Right now, given that testing is
>> still the cornerstone of good control by providing feedback and
>> information, if something came along that really improved my accuracy
>> and ability to comply, I'd find the money somehow! My hair stands up
>> when others decide what I'm willing to do and not willing to do. By
>> others I mean companies. <grin.> All we have to do is look at the hot
>> technologies of the past few years. Okay, jobs are scarce. Everyone's
>> broke. And how many iPads have been sold in the past couple of years?
>> If the product is good enough, then I'm valuable enough to get it.
>> <smile.> Companies won't know it matters if we stop telling them. So
>> who knows! Maybe my epitaph will read, she just wanted a better
>> meter! <laughing!> And then, nothing like a good fantasy, maybe I'll get
>> one!
>> Cheers!

>> Veronica
>> We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And more!
>> Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> 877-607-6407




>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:52:43 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Lynn Baillif <lbaillif at yahoo.com>
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] when to test blood sugar and Prodigy
>> Voice problem
>> Message-ID: <130368.77697.qm at web114718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

>> Hi Everyone,
>> Deciding when to check your blood sugar depends on many factors, but here
>> are some thoughts.  Checking your blood sugar before a meal and then two
>> hours after the same meal will show you how your food choices are
>> affecting your blood sugar.  You can change the meal at which you check
>> each day so you are only checking twice a day but get a sense of all
>> mealtimes over a week period.  If you find your blood sugar is
>> persistently hith at a certain time of day although your meals are
>> consistent in carbs, your medications may need to be adjusted.

>> If your fasting blood sugars are often high, try checking your blood sugar
>> at bedtime (at least 2 hours after a consistent eventing snack) and then
>> check it fasting.  If your blood sugar is in a good range at bedtime but
>> higher in the morning, your liver may be kicking in overnight.  Again, you
>> may need a medication adjustment.  Talk to your doctor.

>> If your use an insulin pump or intensive diabetes management, or if you
>> are pregnant, you will benefit from checking more often.

>> As for the problem with the Prodigy Voice giving low readings because not
>> enough blood is on the strip, I have not noticed this problem personally.
>> But, I will make my contacts at Prodigy aware of the problem.  This is
>> unacceptable.

>> Lynn

>>> ------Hi----------------------------------------------------------------

>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:11:08 -0500
>>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Checking Sugar
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ??? <20110119211108.7877.70387 at domU-12-31-38-07-3C-65.compute-1.internal>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
>>> format="flowed"

>>> I was told to check before each meal and then at night
>>> before I go to bed.
>>> Then you have an idea what is happening durhning the night,
>>> if it
>>> raises or what it does.
>>> Mine raises.

>>> Original message:
>>>> Hi All,

>>>> When is the best time to check your sugar?? I
>>> heard around 3 to 5 years
>>>> ago, that you take it 2 hours after you have eaten.

>>>> Steve Cook
>>>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>>>> SC Commission for the Blind
>>>> 1430 Confederate Avenue
>>>> Columbia, SC 29201
>>>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>>>> Fax: (803) 898-8882
>>>> E-Mail: stcook at sccb.sc.gov


>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org

>>>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of tom
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:03 AM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Question about accessible
>>> materials either
>>>> in Braille or other media


>>>> Exactly what I have said all my life:? for each
>>> and every body the
>>>> chemistry is different.? We may have the same
>>> rights under the
>>>> Constitution and the Holy Books may say we are all
>>> equal in God's eye
>>>> but the reality of life is:? our DNA IS SO VERY
>>> UNIQUE THAT WHAT IS
>>>> IDEAL FOR ONE MAY BE UTTER POISON FOR ANOTHER.

>>>> Personally, I had migraine headaches for years and
>>> certain items would
>>>> trigger me and even emotional blocking for not being
>>> able to do things
>>>> would trigger frustrations.? Fortunately, my
>>> chemistry changed with the
>>>> change of life.? I was a new person and nowadays
>>> I can eat almost anything.

>>>> One must remember we are not a piece of plastic; we as
>>> humans are
>>>> continuously changing.? We are NOT GOING TO BE IN
>>> THIS CHEMISTRY BODY
>>>> FOREVER. Change is ongoing as we are HUMANS.?
>>> Regards.






>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Jan 17, 2011 10:17 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Question about accessible
>>> materials either
>>>> in Braille or other media


>>>> Julie:
>>>> I've never heard of the "Eat This Not That" book so
>>> can't give you a
>>>> ecommendation.? However, current progressive
>>> diabetes worker thinking
>>>> tends o be that you should learn proper eating
>>> principles, talk with a
>>>> dietitian even if you have to pay for it) and come up
>>> with a food plan
>>>> that imultaneously meets your likes and dislikes and
>>> is relatively
>>>> iabetes-healthy.? The fly in the ointment is that
>>> what's a healthy diet
>>>> for ne diabetic may not be for another although there
>>> are some
>>>> enerally-accepted principles.
>>>> Were I you, I'd ask the person who adamantly
>>> recommends the book if
>>>> he/she s so "sent" by it, would he/she read it to
>>> you.? But, frankly, you're
>>>> going* to have to do a bit of studying, i.e., from
>>> BARD and RFB&D.? As
>>>> I rote earlier, read Gretchen Becker's book.? It
>>> won't give you menus
>>>> but it ill give you the knowledge to design your own
>>> menus.? Also, the
>>>> Joslin and merican Diabetes Association guides,
>>> available on BARD, talk
>>>> quite a bit bout food and BARD has several diabetes
>>> cookbooks that have
>>>> lots of recipes nd meal plans.? Even the book on
>>> BARD, "Sex and
>>>> Diabetes" has a discussion f meal plans.? I
>>> disagree with some of its
>>>> principles but it's a good tart.
>>>> Talk about Atkins will get you ostracized by some
>>> diabetes workers
>>>> including any at the American Diabetes
>>> Association.? However, even ADA
>>>> is beginning o get the message that low-carb often
>>> works quite well for
>>>> diabetics.? You ave to figure out what works for
>>> you.
>>>> Mike

>>>> ----Original Message-----
>>>> rom: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Julie Kline
>>>> ent: Monday, January 17, 2011 4:56 PM
>>>> o: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> ubject: [Diabetes-talk] Question about accessible
>>> materials either in
>>>> raille or other media Good evening, I have a few
>>> questions.? When the
>>>> diabetes diagnosis happened about two onths ago, I had
>>> some reading
>>>> that was recommended for me.? In addition, it as
>>> also suggested I call
>>>> the diabetes association and see what materials I ould
>>> get from there.?
>>>> When I called them, they had a print packet they said
>>> hey could send
>>>> out, but nothing in braille.? They gave me three
>>> rganizations to call,
>>>> NFB was the only one that panned out anything.?
>>> One rganization I
>>>> couldn't get a hold of a person at all.? The
>>> other very udely insisted
>>>> that the diabetes association was supposed to be
>>> providing raille
>>>> materials to me "because it's their material" and she
>>> was tired of hem
>>>> giving out the number to the organization I had just
>>> called.
>>>> pparently it happens all the time, according to the
>>> receptionist -- no
>>>> new emberships wanted for them.? So my question
>>> is does the diabetes
>>>> ssociation have anything they offer themselves other
>>> than in print, or
>>>> am I ooking at just going through BARD or something
>>> like that?
>>>> Also the other question I have is that one of the diet
>>> people I'm
>>>> meeting ith absolutely insists on using a book called
>>> Eat This Not
>>>> That.? From what he read to me of it, it tells
>>> you how many calories
>>>> are in certain foods nd offers alternitive
>>> suggestions.? I like the
>>>> parts of the book that were ead that offer menu
>>> suggestions and what a
>>>> few meals would look like.
>>>> ight now I feel like I'm on information overload and
>>> could really use
>>>> omething with more structure.? Unfortunately,
>>> this book is not
>>>> available hrough NLS/BARD, RFB & D, National
>>> Braille Press, Bookshare,
>>>> or any other ccessible media sites I know of.?
>>> Amazon only has it in
>>>> print, which of ourse I can't read.? Being the
>>> book is over 200 pages,
>>>> asking someone to ead it for me probably isn't going
>>> to happen.? Does
>>>> anyone know of a book hat is similar in structure to
>>> this one where
>>>> they give you menus and other ood options?? I
>>> know I can get some of
>>>> the weight watchers books online, nd have even looked
>>> at the Atkins
>>>> diet because they are a low-carb diet nyway.? Any
>>> thoughts on that diet?
>>>> Ok, I've rambled enough.? I guess it's just
>>> frustration with everything
>>>> rying to get out.
>>>> Have a good evening.
>>>> ulie

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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:22:02 -0800
>>> From: "Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni" <rovadia82 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with
>>> prodigy voice
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <F36B2DAE66824E2EB7C4F8BC4B9CD781 at RONITLAP>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;???
>>> charset="us-ascii"

>>> Hi again everyone,
>>> Sorry to be a bother, but thank you to everyone who has
>>> helped me out so
>>> far. I was just wondering if any of you have had this
>>> experience. Sometimes
>>> when I test, I will get a reading that I know is incorrect.
>>> Usually it's a
>>> very low reading, somewhere around 40 or 50. When I retest
>>> with a new strip,
>>> this is corrected and I get a reading that sounds more
>>> believable. I thought
>>> this was happening when it took me a while to get blood on
>>> the strip but I
>>> have found that it is stil happening even when I get the
>>> blood on the strip
>>> easily. I had someone sighted help me a few times and it
>>> was even happening
>>> when I had help. Granted it doesn't happen every time but
>>> it's quite anoying
>>> to have to prick myself twice after I get a reading that is
>>> incorrect. Also,
>>> I have checked that my meter is working properly with the
>>> control solution
>>> and it gives an accurate reading. Have any of you ever had
>>> this problem?
>>> Anything I can do to prevent it? Thanks so much!
>>> Ronit



>>> ------------------------------

>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:31:18 -0800
>>> From: "Tamera" <fidano at comcast.net>
>>> To: <rovadia82 at gmail.com>,???
>>> "Diabetes Talk for the Blind"
>>> ??? <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with
>>> prodigy
>>> ??? voice
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <DAC270FB8199477E9087D2789CC7DACF at 24ktPC>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
>>> charset="iso-8859-1";
>>> ??? reply-type=original

>>> Yes.... I am now trying the soloV. I had a better A1C,
>>> which using the
>>> prodigy and even checking a few times to make sure and
>>> using sighted help,
>>> after a few years I had doubts.
>>>  It would be nice to see prodigy offer? a not enough
>>> blood as the soloV
>>> does, but as you said and I encountered too... it looks
>>> good but? what can
>>> you do but go with the reading, especially after visual
>>> help and a few tries
>>> with same numbers.
>>>  I note the solo/V gives me? a higher low then I
>>> believe I am having, my
>>> symptoms... but? first A1C is more what I'd expect.
>>>  I still like the prodigy product and more avenues to by
>>> strips.. I will
>>> mention one gripe on the soloV is? I do not see how
>>> the strips being in the
>>> vial up and down make for? good specimens, as its nice
>>> to know if the strip
>>> is coming out insertion side? out or toward in as to
>>> not do too much
>>> touching the test end.. but there it is.

>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni" <rovadia82 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:22 PM
>>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with
>>> prodigy voice

>>>> Hi again everyone,
>>>> Sorry to be a bother, but thank you to everyone who
>>> has helped me out so
>>>> far. I was just wondering if any of you have had this
>>> experience.
>>>> Sometimes
>>>> when I test, I will get a reading that I know is
>>> incorrect. Usually it's a
>>>> very low reading, somewhere around 40 or 50. When I
>>> retest with a new
>>>> strip,
>>>> this is corrected and I get a reading that sounds more
>>> believable. I
>>>> thought
>>>> this was happening when it took me a while to get
>>> blood on the strip but I
>>>> have found that it is stil happening even when I get
>>> the blood on the
>>>> strip
>>>> easily. I had someone sighted help me a few times and
>>> it was even
>>>> happening
>>>> when I had help. Granted it doesn't happen every time
>>> but it's quite
>>>> anoying
>>>> to have to prick myself twice after I get a reading
>>> that is incorrect.
>>>> Also,
>>>> I have checked that my meter is working properly with
>>> the control solution
>>>> and it gives an accurate reading. Have any of you ever
>>> had this problem?
>>>> Anything I can do to prevent it? Thanks so much!
>>>> Ronit

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>>> ------------------------------

>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:52:00 -0800
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: <rovadia82 at gmail.com>,???
>>> "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"
>>> ??? <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with
>>> prodigy
>>> ??? voice
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <00d701cbb855$652fe640$2f8fb2c0$@panix.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;???
>>> charset="us-ascii"

>>> Ronit:

>>> Every meter on the planet does this occasionally (there are
>>> some who will
>>> dispute this but this is my experience).? Moreover,
>>> you will get to know the
>>> meter well enough that you will know from its respone
>>> whether the reading is
>>> likely to be incorrect.

>>> I think you will find that when you think you have enough
>>> blood on the strip
>>> but the reading is wrong, most often the blood is smeared a
>>> bit so that
>>> while the strip appears saturated, the area with the
>>> chemical reagent is
>>> not.

>>> The Solo V2 is a bit less prone to this behavior.?
>>> However, it has the
>>> show-stopping drawback at the moment that the times of
>>> readings from memory
>>> are not spoken.

>>> Mike


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Ronit Ovadia Mazzoni
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:22 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with
>>> prodigy voice

>>> Hi again everyone,
>>> Sorry to be a bother, but thank you to everyone who has
>>> helped me out so
>>> far. I was just wondering if any of you have had this
>>> experience. Sometimes
>>> when I test, I will get a reading that I know is incorrect.
>>> Usually it's a
>>> very low reading, somewhere around 40 or 50. When I retest
>>> with a new strip,
>>> this is corrected and I get a reading that sounds more
>>> believable. I thought
>>> this was happening when it took me a while to get blood on
>>> the strip but I
>>> have found that it is stil happening even when I get the
>>> blood on the strip
>>> easily. I had someone sighted help me a few times and it
>>> was even happening
>>> when I had help. Granted it doesn't happen every time but
>>> it's quite anoying
>>> to have to prick myself twice after I get a reading that is
>>> incorrect. Also,
>>> I have checked that my meter is working properly with the
>>> control solution
>>> and it gives an accurate reading. Have any of you ever had
>>> this problem?
>>> Anything I can do to prevent it? Thanks so much!
>>> Ronit

>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> ------------------------------

>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:09:55 -0800
>>> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with
>>> prodigy
>>> ??? voice
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ??? <mailman.40.1295546409.19530.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org at nfbnet.org>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii";
>>> format=flowed

>>> It is possible when putting blood on the Prodigy strip to
>>> completely
>>> miss a corner area. Sorry, I'm less kind on this topic.
>>> There's no
>>> excuse with today's technology for meters that start
>>> testing before
>>> there's enough blood. If I knew what the reading ought to
>>> be, I sure
>>> wouldn't be beating up on my fingers! In the vast range of
>>> meters
>>> available to sighted people, there are some that are so
>>> much better
>>> in that they don't perform the test if there isn't enough
>>> blood. It's
>>> why I've held off on using the prodigy. I hope that a
>>> future model
>>> takes care of this problem, I really do.
>>> Veronica
>>> We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And
>>> more!
>>> Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>> ??? ??? Veronica Elsea,
>>> Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> 877-607-6407




>>> ------------------------------

>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:29:21 -0800
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with
>>> prodigy
>>> ??? voice
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <001601cbb862$fe609780$fb21c680$@panix.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;???
>>> charset="us-ascii"

>>> Veronica:

>>> I don't disagree with you.? In fact, I consider *all*
>>> meters on the market,
>>> be they for the blind or sighted, abysmally lower in
>>> accuracy and
>>> consistency than they could be!? But we probably
>>> wouldn't want to pay the
>>> price for the sort of meter I'm dreaming of! <g>

>>> Mike


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:10 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Random incorrect readings with
>>> prodigy voice

>>> It is possible when putting blood on the Prodigy strip to
>>> completely
>>> miss a corner area. Sorry, I'm less kind on this topic.
>>> There's no
>>> excuse with today's technology for meters that start
>>> testing before
>>> there's enough blood. If I knew what the reading ought to
>>> be, I sure
>>> wouldn't be beating up on my fingers! In the vast range of
>>> meters
>>> available to sighted people, there are some that are so
>>> much better
>>> in that they don't perform the test if there isn't enough
>>> blood. It's
>>> why I've held off on using the prodigy. I hope that a
>>> future model
>>> takes care of this problem, I really do.
>>> Veronica
>>> We Woof You A Merry Christmas! Diabetes Melodious! And
>>> more!
>>> Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever!
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>> ??? ??? Veronica Elsea,
>>> Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> 877-607-6407


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>>> ------------------------------

>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:44:37 -0600
>>> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] New Blog Posted
>>> Message-ID: <SNT136-w24A00005F98CD67E0A2AC4C4F90 at phx.gbl>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


>>> Hello,

>>> A new blog, Hope for the Future, posted today.? Please
>>> check it out at http://www.livewellnebraska.com
>>> Make sure to look for the link with my full name, Bridgit
>>> Kuenning-Pollpeter, on the homepage, or go to the Meet the
>>> Bloggers link and look for my full name there.

>>> Thanks for the support.

>>> Sincerely,
>>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter ???
>>> ????????
>>> ?????? ???
>>> ?

>>> ------------------------------

>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:57:21 -0500 (EST)
>>> From: tom <jlv810g at aol.com>
>>> To: Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] I pray every day for the health of
>>> my beloved
>>> ??? and recovery from diabetes and loss of
>>> his voice
>>> Message-ID: <8CD86D1DAFF0D5B-A8C-9D4A at webmail-m055.sysops.aol.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>>> Continual research is ongoing for these anomalies? God
>>> will answer with timely advice!




>>> ------------------------------

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>>> End of Diabetes-talk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 18
>>> *********************************************







>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:38:07 -0500
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing times and results
>> Message-ID:
>> <20110121023807.22523.32578 at domU-12-31-38-07-3C-65.compute-1.internal>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"

>> Yes we need to watch what we eat,
>> I know I did baking over the Christmas season, and enjoyed some of it as
>> well.
>> Am I sorry no.
>> I shared what I bake, and it was enjoyed with others.
>> So that is how I work it all out.
>> I just share.
>> I will never stop baking, it is something that is relaxing for me.

>> Original message:
>>> Greetings,

>>> Recently my sugars have been much higher and I was wondering if it might
>>> be
>>> due to the meter and so I was happy to read the various remarks over the
>>> last couple of days about when to test and meter reliability. Well, I
>>> guess
>>> it was the two month long holiday feasting that was most responsible and,
>>> of
>>> course, I am a victim where such is concerned! That is the right view,
>>> isn't
>>> it?

>>> Happy to say, however, that when I started testing more frequently than
>>> once
>>> in the morning and watching my diet more closely, along with an increase
>>> in
>>> exercise this last week, the BG levels dropped down more to a level I
>>> like.
>>> I guess that only goes to prove the often repeated here axiom that "We
>>> are
>>> the ones most responsible and best suited for our own diabetes
>>> management."
>>> I must say that when it comes to self-control, I am also glad that God is
>>> there to help me!

>>> Listening for His shout!

>>> Grant Metcalf
>>> Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
>>> Website:  http://bartimaeus.us/


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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:23:06 -0800
>> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Eli Lily Humalog QuikPen
>> Message-ID: <20110121042306.k7uij at panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

>> Greetings.

>> You may recall seeing a notice that Eli Lily was to discontinue production
>> of the original Humalog insulin pen and that supplies were no longer
>> guaranteed to be available after December, 2010. I received such a notice
>> both from Safeway Pharmacy and from Wallgreen's. The QuikPen has been
>> available for some time but the scuttlebutt was that Lily continued to
>> manufacture the original Humalog pen in part because it thought it easier
>> for blind diabetics to use than the QuikPen. This seems somewhat
>> far-fetched to me but I've heard it more than once.

>> Be that as it may, I've received my first supply of the Humalog QuikPen. I
>> can report that it is very easy to use whether or not one has useable
>> vision. The pen is less complex than the original Humalog pen, has
>> smoother action and requires less pressure on the "plunger-finger". The
>> version I have can give doses in one-unit increments up to sixty units and
>> clicks for each unit as one dials the dose just as the original Humalog
>> pen did. The clicks are slightly less stiff or definite but they're very
>> much there and I had no trouble dialing up the dose I desired. One also
>> doesn't have to pull the plunger back to engage the dialing mechanism as
>> one did with the original pen.

>> All in all, I like the QuikPen and assure you that if you are approached
>> as to whether the pen can be used by the blind, the answer is an emphatic
>> "yes"!

>> Mike Freeman




>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:08:41 -0500
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Eli Lily Humalog QuikPen
>> Message-ID:
>> <20110121050841.29187.76009 at domU-12-31-38-00-AD-3E.compute-1.internal>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"

>> Hi Mike,
>> I saw one of those pins in the office.
>> I still have the first one, and need to use it.
>> I like the idea you don't have to pull back on it or up on it to get
>> what you need.
>> I also felt the turns.
>> Or knotches as I was turning it.
>> So each turn is one unit?

>> Original message:
>>> Greetings.

>>> You may recall seeing a notice that Eli Lily was to discontinue
>>> production of the original Humalog insulin pen and that supplies were
>>> no longer guaranteed to be available after December, 2010. I received
>>> such a notice both from Safeway Pharmacy and from Wallgreen's. The
>>> QuikPen has been available for some time but the scuttlebutt was that
>>> Lily continued to manufacture the original Humalog pen in part because
>>> it thought it easier for blind diabetics to use than the QuikPen. This
>>> seems somewhat far-fetched to me but I've heard it more than once.

>>> Be that as it may, I've received my first supply of the Humalog
>>> QuikPen. I can report that it is very easy to use whether or not one
>>> has useable vision. The pen is less complex than the original Humalog
>>> pen, has smoother action and requires less pressure on the
>>> "plunger-finger". The version I have can give doses in one-unit
>>> increments up to sixty units and clicks for each unit as one dials the
>>> dose just as the original Humalog pen did. The clicks are slightly less
>>> stiff or definite but they're very much there and I had no trouble
>>> dialing up the dose I desired. One also doesn't have to pull the
>>> plunger back to engage the dialing mechanism as one did with the original
>>> pen.

>>> All in all, I like the QuikPen and assure you that if you are
>>> approached as to whether the pen can be used by the blind, the answer
>>> is an emphatic "yes"!

>>> Mike Freeman


>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%40samobile.net

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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:12:21 -0800
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing times and results
>> Message-ID: <00ca01cbb929$c8eb1b80$5ac15280$@panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>> Grant:

>> Your experience is not uncommon.  I'd hazard that every one of us has let
>> his/her control slip a time or two or three or ... The key is to get back
>> on
>> that diabetes bronco and bust him!  Sounds like you're doing that!  We're
>> all comrades in the struggle!

>> Mike


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Grant E. Metcalf
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:21 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] testing times and results

>> Greetings,

>> Recently my sugars have been much higher and I was wondering if it might
>> be
>> due to the meter and so I was happy to read the various remarks over the
>> last couple of days about when to test and meter reliability. Well, I
>> guess
>> it was the two month long holiday feasting that was most responsible and,
>> of

>> course, I am a victim where such is concerned! That is the right view,
>> isn't

>> it?

>> Happy to say, however, that when I started testing more frequently than
>> once

>> in the morning and watching my diet more closely, along with an increase
>> in
>> exercise this last week, the BG levels dropped down more to a level I
>> like.
>> I guess that only goes to prove the often repeated here axiom that "We are
>> the ones most responsible and best suited for our own diabetes
>> management."
>> I must say that when it comes to self-control, I am also glad that God is
>> there to help me!

>> Listening for His shout!

>> Grant Metcalf
>> Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
>> Website:  http://bartimaeus.us/


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>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:25:42 -0800
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Eli Lily Humalog QuikPen
>> Message-ID: <00e001cbb92b$a6244c00$f26ce400$@panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>> Yup.

>> Mike


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:09 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Eli Lily Humalog QuikPen

>> Hi Mike,
>> I saw one of those pins in the office.
>> I still have the first one, and need to use it.
>> I like the idea you don't have to pull back on it or up on it to get what
>> you need.
>> I also felt the turns.
>> Or knotches as I was turning it.
>> So each turn is one unit?

>> Original message:
>>> Greetings.

>>> You may recall seeing a notice that Eli Lily was to discontinue
>>> production of the original Humalog insulin pen and that supplies were
>>> no longer guaranteed to be available after December, 2010. I received
>>> such a notice both from Safeway Pharmacy and from Wallgreen's. The
>>> QuikPen has been available for some time but the scuttlebutt was that
>>> Lily continued to manufacture the original Humalog pen in part because
>>> it thought it easier for blind diabetics to use than the QuikPen. This
>>> seems somewhat far-fetched to me but I've heard it more than once.

>>> Be that as it may, I've received my first supply of the Humalog
>>> QuikPen. I can report that it is very easy to use whether or not one
>>> has useable vision. The pen is less complex than the original Humalog
>>> pen, has smoother action and requires less pressure on the
>>> "plunger-finger". The version I have can give doses in one-unit
>>> increments up to sixty units and clicks for each unit as one dials the
>>> dose just as the original Humalog pen did. The clicks are slightly
>>> less stiff or definite but they're very much there and I had no
>>> trouble dialing up the dose I desired. One also doesn't have to pull
>>> the plunger back to engage the dialing mechanism as one did with the
>> original pen.

>>> All in all, I like the QuikPen and assure you that if you are
>>> approached as to whether the pen can be used by the blind, the answer
>>> is an emphatic "yes"!

>>> Mike Freeman


>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Diabetes-talk:
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/dmgina%
>>> 40samobile.net

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>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 11
>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:45:01 -0500
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Eli Lily Humalog QuikPen
>> Message-ID: <BLU162-ds16C2C23D8B0160BE627A6DA1F80 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>> I just received my shipment last week

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>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Mike Freeman<mailto:k7uij at panix.com>
>>  To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>  Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:23 PM
>>  Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Eli Lily Humalog QuikPen


>>  Greetings.

>>  You may recall seeing a notice that Eli Lily was to discontinue
>> production of the original Humalog insulin pen and that supplies were no
>> longer guaranteed to be available after December, 2010. I received such a
>> notice both from Safeway Pharmacy and from Wallgreen's. The QuikPen has
>> been available for some time but the scuttlebutt was that Lily continued
>> to manufacture the original Humalog pen in part because it thought it
>> easier for blind diabetics to use than the QuikPen. This seems somewhat
>> far-fetched to me but I've heard it more than once.

>>  Be that as it may, I've received my first supply of the Humalog QuikPen.
>> I can report that it is very easy to use whether or not one has useable
>> vision. The pen is less complex than the original Humalog pen, has
>> smoother action and requires less pressure on the "plunger-finger". The
>> version I have can give doses in one-unit increments up to sixty units and
>> clicks for each unit as one dials the dose just as the original Humalog
>> pen did. The clicks are slightly less stiff or definite but they're very
>> much there and I had no trouble dialing up the dose I desired. One also
>> doesn't have to pull the plunger back to engage the dialing mechanism as
>> one did with the original pen.

>>  All in all, I like the QuikPen and assure you that if you are approached
>> as to whether the pen can be used by the blind, the answer is an emphatic
>> "yes"!

>>  Mike Freeman


>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>  Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>

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>> Diabetes-talk:

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>> ------------------------------

>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:36:55 -0500
>> From: Kelly Massaro <kellym at prodigymeter.com>
>> To: "'diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing times and results
>> Message-ID:
>> <A568E408EC51D74EA6B79CA6CD213D4375128EFEB7 at ddimail01.vc.vitalcare.com>

>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

>> Grant

>> Please give me a call today if you have time.

>> Kelly
>> Prodigy
>> 704-458-9400
>> Kelly Massaro Neal
>> Prodigy Diabetes Care
>> 704-458-9400

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Fri Jan 21 00:12:21 2011
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] testing times and results

>> Grant:

>> Your experience is not uncommon.  I'd hazard that every one of us has let
>> his/her control slip a time or two or three or ... The key is to get back
>> on
>> that diabetes bronco and bust him!  Sounds like you're doing that!  We're
>> all comrades in the struggle!

>> Mike


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Grant E. Metcalf
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:21 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] testing times and results

>> Greetings,

>> Recently my sugars have been much higher and I was wondering if it might
>> be
>> due to the meter and so I was happy to read the various remarks over the
>> last couple of days about when to test and meter reliability. Well, I
>> guess
>> it was the two month long holiday feasting that was most responsible and,
>> of

>> course, I am a victim where such is concerned! That is the right view,
>> isn't

>> it?

>> Happy to say, however, that when I started testing more frequently than
>> once

>> in the morning and watching my diet more closely, along with an increase
>> in
>> exercise this last week, the BG levels dropped down more to a level I
>> like.
>> I guess that only goes to prove the often repeated here axiom that "We are
>> the ones most responsible and best suited for our own diabetes
>> management."
>> I must say that when it comes to self-control, I am also glad that God is
>> there to help me!

>> Listening for His shout!

>> Grant Metcalf
>> Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
>> Website:  http://bartimaeus.us/


>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>> signature
>> database 5804 (20110120) __________

>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

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