[Diabetes-talk] A Metformin Question

Thu Mar 10 04:38:01 UTC 2011

All:

I submit that, although made partly in gest, Bridgit's comment below doesn't
make a lot of sense, at least with respect to insurance companies.
Basically, insurance is legalized gambling on the part of insurance
companies -- the patient pays premiums and the insurance companies gamble
that they will make more from those premiums than they will have to pay out.
Hence, they aren't interested in paying out more than they absolutely have
to.  So they aren't in cahoots with Bihg Pharma.  They don't make money from
diabetes drugs -- they spend it.

As for big Pharma:  saying that they don't want to work on cures doesn't
make sense, either.  Big Pharma doesn't generally do the sort of pure
research that is necessary to find cures for diseases.  That's left to pure
scientists and those involved in applied medical research.  For practical
purposes, this means schools of medicine and the biological science
departments at universities and colleges.  So the stream of money funding
research toward a cure for diabetes (if one can be found) has nothing to do
with the monetary stream coming to Big Pharma as a result of manufacture of
diabetes drugs.

So the whole line of reasoning that the medical establishment is in cahoots
with the major pharmaceutical companies to suppress diabetes cures is just
another way to acceptably vent one's spleen about diabetes and exercise the
imaginations and paranoiac tendencies of conspiracy theory freaks!

Mike Freeman, President
Diabetes Action Network

-----Original Message-----
From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:36 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Metformin Question

Sometimes the side affects sound worse than the condition.  *smile*  I
think Jeff Foxworthy makes a joke about that.

My comment was in jest before, but I know it is a hot, but controversial
issue that insurance and drug companies are looking to medicate over
cure because less illness means less money for them.

I would recommend if anyone ever feels uncomfortable with a drug, they
research it, speak with multiple doctors and finally, make an informed
decision.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:36 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Metformin Question

The reasons you hear all the commercials and explaining all of this came
out during the HIPAA Privacy Laws, which also includes that drug
companies must post in all media forms the side affects to the drugs.

The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services! 

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bridgit Pollpeter<mailto:bpollpeter at hotmail.com> 
  To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Metformin Question

  These drug companies want our money.  Instead of focusing on more
cures,
  they keep us alive-- just alive-- so we keep paying for drugs!  LOL

  -----Original Message-----
  From:
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  [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl
echevarria
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:03 PM
  To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
  Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Metformin Question

  um if you listen to all the commercials on tv they cause a lot of
issues
  as well.

  The problem is that it causes Cancer in Mice and Rats and it hasn't
yet
  been proved that is causes other issues in humans.

  So I would worry more about you keeping your sugars down and the diet
  level, the stress alone will give you problems of worrying about it.

  I am on transplant drugs for my kidney transplant, and every year I
have
  to get check for Cancer, I know the risks involved, but guess what I
am
  not on dialysis and haven't been in 6 years and I am alive.

  The biggest compliment you can pay me is to recommend my services! 

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Bill Lewis<mailto:wlewis19 at cox.net<mailto:wlewis19 at cox.net>> 
    To: Diabetes Talk for the
Blind<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org<mailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>> 
    Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:16 PM
    Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Metformin Question

    Hi I have been on Metformin for 8 years.  I have read now and then
  that 
    Metformin over time damages the liver and can cause some memory
  problems. 
    But I have noticed none of those in myself, and annual physical
  evaluations, 
    plus diabetes evaluations every four months have shown nothing
  negative 
    except for my troubles keeping calory intake evenly distributed.
  KnowKnock 
    on wood!

    However, research on meds is ongoing, so I will keep watching out
for 
    official indications of medication interactions. - Bill Lewis

    --------------------------------------------------
    From: "Anita"

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11 at charter.net%3Cmailto:abbrown6211 at charter.net>>>
    Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 9:45 AM
    To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind"

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s-talk at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>>
    Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Metformin Question

    > It was not my doctor. my doctor told me that she had never heard
  that.  It 
    > was a friend of mine he has been Diabetic for several years.  He
  told me 
    > that he told his doctor about his research and his doctor then
  removed him 
    > off of Metformin.  I haven't been able to find anything about
memory
  loss 
    > and neither has my doctor.  That is why I asked because me and
this
  person 
    > spoke once again an he still says that Metformin causes memory
loss.
    >
    > Anita
    > e-mail and facebook:
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    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Alan Wheeler"

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ler65 at windstream.net%3Cmailto:awheeler65 at windstream.net>>>
    > To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'"

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s-talk at nfbnet.org%3Cmailto:diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>>>
    > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:11 AM
    > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Metformin Question
    >
    >
    >> I've never heard anything about Metformin causing memory loss. I
  think 
    >> your
    >> doctor had better check his research.
    >>
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From:

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    >> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Anita
    >> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 8:48 AM
    >> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
    >> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A Metformin Question
    >>
    >> I have a question about metformin.  someone told me that in his
  research 
    >> he
    >> found that  metformin causes memory loss anyone heard this?  From
  what I
    >> have been able to find and from what my doctor has told me this
is
  not 
    >> true.
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Anita
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