[Diabetes-talk] Lily

[Tamera]

According the the lady I  primarily spoke with.. its insulin and devices for
dispensing.  I understand the blind person needs to know how to use the
device and or insulin according to MD RX, but so does a sighted person. And
who  verifies the sighted person with a blind diabetic 24/7  is trainged
properly? 
I agree with Mike that some one on one with some actual blind diabetics will
hopefully impart  some insight to the ability. 
Look forward to hearing updates on this!
Tamera

-----Original Message-----
From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 11:39 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Lily


Question, doesn't this go more into than just the pens, people still use
syringed and vials as well.




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> From: k7uij at panix.com
> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:34:30 -0700
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Lily
> 
> Currently, the only manufacturer of insulin pens that does not have those
danmnable warnings is sanofi -aventis. I've written to the other
manufacturers without result. It's hard to get past the pr people. However,
eileen rivera-ley has participated in a conference of pen manufacturer
engineers who found it enlightening to interact with a real blind person so
this plus the work of ann williams May bear fruit shortly in terms of more
enlightened policies. I'll write more tomorrow when I'm back home. 
> 
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jul 14, 2012, at 4:26, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> 
> > 
> > We are working on this issue already, but I feel we need to work harder
on it, what have we done already, President Freeman
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> > Cheryl Echevarria,
Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations@echevarriatrave
l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
> > PresidentTravel and Tourism DivisionNational Federation of the
Blind631-236-5138
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> >> From: jlv810g at aol.com
> >> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 01:50:55 -0400
> >> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Lily
> >> 
> >> 
> >> You got that right lady..... no disease worse than ignorance.  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> tom
> >> jlv810g at aol.com
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> >> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Fri, Jul 13, 2012 10:09 pm
> >> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Lily
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Oh man! For pity's sake, this is 2012! That part of me that could just 
> >> fly off the handle and get angry is imagining a demonstration in front 
> >> of their headquarters where we all show up with tooth brushes and say 
> >> look! We can even brush our own teeth!
> >> I actually like the study that Ann Williams did two years ago. Based on

> >> the results of that study, sighted people should not be able to use 
> >> insulin pens without assistance from a blind person.
> >> I tell you, there is no disease worse than ignorance! Tamera, I don't 
> >> know the answer to your question about Novo, nor do I know anything 
> >> about their pens. But boy, when a product breaks, it just breaks and 
> >> that should be that. If we're not supposed to use pens, not supposed to

> >> use pumps, what do these companies think we're supposed to do? Just 
> >> quietly die and go away? Not a chance!
> >> Okay, three deep breaths and I'll go brush my teeth now! <evil grin.>
> >> Hang in there.
> >> 
> >> Veronica
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
> >> Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club
at:
> >> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> >>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> >> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> >> Santa Cruz, California
> >> Phone: 831-429-6407
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 7/13/2012 4:31 PM, Tamera wrote:
> >>> I know the topic has been  brought up in the past, but having just
dealt
> >>> with Eli Lily this AM...
> >>> I had to be told, having to speak to several people to resolve an
issue with
> >>> a humapen that broke prior to warranty end.. that blind diabetics are
not to
> >>> use any Eli Lily  products or insulin without a sighted person
present.
> >>> Any  updates on Nova doing the same or  works to not have to  feel so
inept?
> >>> It was stressed not that I should be trained to use my insulin and
device,
> >>> but that the sighted person who must always assist me  be trained.
> >>> Tamera
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:31 AM
> >>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Delta trip
> >>> 
> >>> I love cashews and they are incredible brain food!!!
> >>> Diane
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> >>> To: "'Joy Stigile'" <jstigile at sbcglobal.net>; "'Diabetes Talk for the
> >>> Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:36 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Delta trip
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> Actually, since I'm on intensive insulin management, I don't usually
> >>>> bother as the lantus holds me fairly steady. During convention,
> >>>> however (and Joy can verify this from the 2009 CA convention), I
carry
> >>>> at least one can of cashoos as room snakcs or even to substitute for
a
> >>>> meal (I usually don't have time for lunch on Board Meeting day).
> >>>> 
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >>>> [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joy Stigile
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:06 PM
> >>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Delta trip
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hi!
> >>>> When ever I travel by plane I carry a sandwich, one or two fruits, a
> >>>> vegetable or two and my own type of snacks.  One hour between flights
> >>>> will give you just enough time to get from one gate to the other one.
> >>>> Also some plane fights do run behind schedule.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Joy
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Dmgina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
> >>>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:26 PM
> >>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Delta trip
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>> My flight leaves at six AM.
> >>>>> I have an hour between flights.
> >>>>> I get to my destination at three in the afternoon.
> >>>>> An hour ride to the school.
> >>>>> I understand you pay for snacks now.
> >>>>> It will be way to long for me from breakfast at home until dinner.
> >>>>> Where can I get a sandwich for lunch?
> >>>>> Or should I try to carry my own items?
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> Dar
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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