[Diabetes-talk] intuitive eating and textures Re: Excellent Article

Wed Jun 20 01:03:15 UTC 2012

I am so proud of you, losing that much weight.
I also eat 12 grain or molty grain breads.
i have a slice of toast with serial.
Oat meal or a grain serial.
And yes once a week I have ice cream.
One of my down falls in the summer.
A small everything, drives folks silly giggle.
Now that is my favorite part, driving folks silly giggle.
Keep up the swell work.

Original message:
> Hi,
> Some people have problems with different textures. I can't eat peanut 
> butter and jelly sandwiches. I just can't get them down.
> I you can't eat certain fruits I think you just eat the ones you can. 
> You can probably consume vegetables like uncooked carrots, broccoli, 
> cauliflower, and other vegetables which require chewing. You might try 
> fresh pears, they are hard and may work.
> I think it's five servings of fruit and vegetables. I don't recall 
> reading anything about a certain number of each.
> You can cause more stress for yourself if you dwell on things. Do your 
> best to eat healthy. If you think about everything you put in your 
> mouth to the point of panic that won't help.
> Be reasonable. A small dish of ice cream isn't going to make the world 
> come to an end.
> Obviously you shouldn't do that every day. Maybe once a week.
> You can become scrupulous to a fault. I you never allow yourself to 
> have something you enjoy you will overeat when you have that treat. You 
> will feel deprived and may stop trying to be vigilant.
> No food is bad, it's the amount you eat and how often you eat it.
> If I have offended any dietician, I am sorry. I know you all work hard 
> to help us. I have seen too many Diabetics in my family and friends who 
> gorge on foods because they weren't allowed to have a little of 
> something. I also know some people just give up when they get this diagnosis.
> I LOVE bread. I have reduced the amount of bread I eat. I am also 
> eating pultigrain bread. This meets my need for bread and is a healthy option.
> I guess I'm doing all right because I have lost 42 pounds since last June.
> I had been the same dress size since 1985 so I am happy for the change.
> It took a lot of willpower to start my new mealplan.
> I think of you think of your new plan as a Mealplan rather than a Diet 
> you will feel better about it.
> It is the way you ñeed to eat for life so you might as well do your 
> best to keep yourself as healthy as you can.
> Things that work well for some people don't work the same for others.
> Colleen Roth

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chanelle Allen <chanellem.allen at gmail.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Monday, Jun 18, 2012 12:24:27 PM
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] intuitive eating and textures Re: Excellent Article

>> I too enjoyed listening to the presenter at the DAN seminar last year (I
>> listened to the recording online). It would be wonderful if diabetes could
>> be reduced to a mere nuisance. The problem is that the vigilance, care, and
>> consistency required is overwhelming and takes up too much effort. I am not
>> strong-willed or self-disciplined. The book Diabetes Burnout suggests that
>> we are motivated to continue repeating destructive habits and that we don't
>> change if the costs outweigh the benefits. Just because we know we shouldn't
>> do something to avoid unpleasant consequences, that doesn't hinder people
>> from choosing the same thing again.
>> I started reading Health At Every Size: The Surprising Truth About Your
>> Weight by Linda Bacon, which discusses the intuitive eating approach.
>> Later in the book, Dr. Bacon recommends eating a variety of foods. I have a
>> problem where I gag on foods of certain textures-comespecially fruit. Even
>> mashed potatoes, which I like gives me that feeling if I eat too much. Has
>> anyone experienced a similar problem not liking certain textures and what
>> have you done to overcome it? I also don't have a sense of smell, so the
>> food I don't like does not have much appeal even if it is supposed to taste
>> good. Even eating the fruit that I like (sweet, crisp apples) doesn't take
>> away my sweet craving. I try to eat lots of vegetables, so maybe that makes
>> up for the lack of fruit. Is eating fruit still recommended on a low
>> carbohydrate diet? I use an insulin pump, so I can't make the excuse that
>> fruit will raise my blood sugar too high (smile).
>> I hope that I haven't gone off topic.

>> Chanelle

>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Bernadette Jacobs" <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 9:02 AM
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Excellent Article

>>> On 6/16/12, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>>> ar Diabetics are often bombarded with advice on what's the "best" diet for
>>> ar them
>>> ar (as if diabetes is just one disease). The American diabetes Association
>>> ar tells us not to eliminate carbs from our diet (ignoring the fact that the
>>> ar Inuit did and are doing quite well, thank you, without much carbohydrate
>>> ar in
>>> ar the diet). The Atkins people hit us with just the opposite advice but
>>> ar arouse
>>> ar suspicion in some because of their association with certain types of
>>> ar alternative medical therapies.
>>> ar
>>> ar
>>> ar
>>> ar It seems as though the advice is driven as much by the current
>>> ar politically-correct, medical and scientific fads as it is by solid
>>> ar research
>>> ar (which is damnably difficult to do when dealing with diets and
>>> ar nutrition).
>>> ar And seldom is the ininreal* science behind all these assertions carefully
>>> ar and
>>> ar rigorously examined. It's high time this changed. It's why I had a
>>> ar different
>>> ar sourt of dietitian at last year's DAN Seminar and why I often come across
>>> ar as
>>> ar a terminal skeptic.
>>> ar
>>> ar
>>> ar
>>> ar Check out the blog post at the link shown below and get what seems to be
>>> ar more the straight scoop on all this. Many of our most cherished and
>>> ar unquestioned assumptions turn out to have little scientific basis.
>>> ar
>>> ar
>>> ar
>>> ar http://www.drbriffa.com/2012/03/05/whats-wrong-with-the-dietary-advice-diabe
>>> ar tes-uk-dishes-out-to-diabetics/
>>> ar
>>> ar
>>> ar
>>> ar Mike Freeman
>>> ar
>>> ar
>>> ar
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>>> Ya know gang, I was at that DAN Seminar and I really appreciated what
>>> that lady had to say.  I think that the way she mapped things out
>>> makes one's diabetes far more manageable.  Blindness, (at least to
>>> most of us here), is a mere nuisance; a characteristic.  We should be
>>> able to make diabetes the same; a mere characteristic or condition
>>> which we ourselves are all able to manage and control without being
>>> forced by myth, misconception, and society in general to regard our
>>> diabetes as a curse!!  Can't have this; can't have that; gotta eat
>>> this; gotta eat that; can only eat one cup of this; and whatever you
>>> do, don't forget your daily allowance of cardboard packaging; so help
>>> you God!!!  After all, ya gotta eat that because if ya eat something
>>> that actually tastes good, it's gonna be bad for ya.  I thought the
>>> bottom line of what that lady said was very simple: If you eat two
>>> pieces of chocolate fudge cake at the end of your meal and two hours
>>> later, you peak at 360, you know better than to ever do that again.
>>> especially if only you've eaten one piece of that cake and your sugar
>>> peaks at 165ish, then you know to allow yourself just one piece.  The
>>> object here is to set and know your peak so that if you rise above it,
>>> you know to cut yourself off.  Like Lynn said previously, the key is
>>> "MODERATION!"  It's not that you can't have what pleasures of life you
>>> wish.  You simply need to use discretion, disciplin and self control.
>>> If you can't control it, don't go there.  Simple as that. My other
>>> advice is test, test, test so you know where you are at all times.
>>> And, if you don't like your numbers, take heed and don't be afraid to
>>> seek counsel if you need.

>>> Bern

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