[Diabetes-talk] intuitive eating and textures Re: ExcellentArticle

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Fri Jun 22 04:01:35 UTC 2012 

Chanelle:

Not only should you take care of your diabetes for your husband's sake but
if you truly believe, as we say in the NFB, that it is respectable to be
blind, then you should take care of the diabetes because you respect and
love yourself.

See my Monitor article this month.

Mike


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[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chanelle Allen
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:17 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] intuitive eating and textures Re:
ExcellentArticle

Hi Colleen,
Thank you for your perspective on being a caretaker. I have known that was 
true, but your message allowed me to empathize a little. I did not have an 
open and emotionally supportive relationship with my parents, so that made 
things more difficult.
I will try to be better with diabetes control for my husbands' sake. He has 
already experienced enough worry.
Congratulations on improving your health.
The encouragement we receive from one another is a great motivator.

Chanelle

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From: "COLLEEN ROTH" <N8TNV at ATT.NET>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:46 PM
To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] intuitive eating and textures Re: 
ExcellentArticle

> Hi,
> You know quick cooking or old fashioned oatmeal are much better for us 
> than the Instant kind. I know there are varieties of Instant oatmeal which

> are lower in so-gar, etc. but we get more fiber in the old fashioned 
> oatmeal.
> BTW you can do regular oatmeal in your microwave.
> Thanks for the praise, I really overdid it today at Lunch. I went to a 
> restaurant I have been wanting to try for years. It is a Menonite 
> Restaurant and everything is homemade. Nothing is Instant.
> The Ice Cream is made nearby and is delicious.
> The Macaroni and Chesffe is also very good.
> I did have some cooked carrots and some applesauce, too.
> I had a very light Supper.
> Just hang in there.
> I think your family really watched your Food Intake because they felt that

> was something they were supposed to do. My girls had disabilities and 
> Medical Issues. I was very careful about managing their meds and what they

> ate and drank.
> Remember, it's not easy being the person who is saying no when you want 
> something.
> Sometimes it hurts to say no more than you can imagine.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To:  diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Tuesday, Jun 19, 2012 09:04:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] intuitive eating and textures Re: Excellent 
> Article
>
>>
>>
>> I am so proud of you, losing that much weight.
>> I also eat 12 grain or molty grain breads.
>> i have a slice of toast with serial.
>> Oat meal or a grain serial.
>> And yes once a week I have ice cream.
>> One of my down falls in the summer.
>> A small everything, drives folks silly giggle.
>> Now that is my favorite part, driving folks silly giggle.
>> Keep up the swell work.
>>
>> Original message:
>> > Hi,
>> > Some people have problems with different textures. I can't eat peanut
>> > butter and jelly sandwiches. I just can't get them down.
>> > I you can't eat certain fruits I think you just eat the ones you can.
>> > You can probably consume vegetables like uncooked carrots, broccoli,
>> > cauliflower, and other vegetables which require chewing. You might try
>> > fresh pears, they are hard and may work.
>> > I think it's five servings of fruit and vegetables. I don't recall
>> > reading anything about a certain number of each.
>> > You can cause more stress for yourself if you dwell on things. Do your
>> > best to eat healthy. If you think about everything you put in your
>> > mouth to the point of panic that won't help.
>> > Be reasonable. A small dish of ice cream isn't going to make the world
>> > come to an end.
>> > Obviously you shouldn't do that every day. Maybe once a week.
>> > You can become scrupulous to a fault. I you never allow yourself to
>> > have something you enjoy you will overeat when you have that treat. You
>> > will feel deprived and may stop trying to be vigilant.
>> > No food is bad, it's the amount you eat and how often you eat it.
>> > If I have offended any dietician, I am sorry. I know you all work hard
>> > to help us. I have seen too many Diabetics in my family and friends who
>> > gorge on foods because they weren't allowed to have a little of
>> > something. I also know some people just give up when they get this 
>> > diagnosis.
>> > I LOVE bread. I have reduced the amount of bread I eat. I am also
>> > eating pultigrain bread. This meets my need for bread and is a healthy 
>> > option.
>> > I guess I'm doing all right because I have lost 42 pounds since last 
>> > June.
>> > I had been the same dress size since 1985 so I am happy for the change.
>> > It took a lot of willpower to start my new mealplan.
>> > I think of you think of your new plan as a Mealplan rather than a Diet
>> > you will feel better about it.
>> > It is the way you thx^^;..eed to eat for life so you might as well do 
>> > your
>> > best to keep yourself as healthy as you can.
>> > Things that work well for some people don't work the same for others.
>> > Colleen Roth
>>
>>
>>
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Chanelle Allen <chanellem.allen at gmail.com>
>> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Date: Monday, Jun 18, 2012 12:24:27 PM
>> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] intuitive eating and textures Re: Excellent 
>> > Article
>>
>>
>>
>> >ar I too enjoyed listening to the presenter at the DAN seminar last year

>> >(I
>> >ar listened to the recording online). It would be wonderful if diabetes 
>> >could
>> >ar be reduced to a mere nuisance. The problem is that the vigilance, 
>> >care, and
>> >ar consistency required is overwhelming and takes up too much effort. I 
>> >am not
>> >ar strong-willed or self-disciplined. The book Diabetes Burnout suggests

>> >that
>> >ar we are motivated to continue repeating destructive habits and that we

>> >don't
>> >ar change if the costs outweigh the benefits. Just because we know we 
>> >shouldn't
>> >ar do something to avoid unpleasant consequences, that doesn't hinder 
>> >people
>> >ar from choosing the same thing again.
>> >ar I started reading Health At Every Size: The Surprising Truth About 
>> >Your
>> >ar Weight by Linda Bacon, which discusses the intuitive eating approach.
>> >ar Later in the book, Dr. Bacon recommends eating a variety of foods. I 
>> >have a
>> >ar problem where I gag on foods of certain textures-comespecially fruit.

>> >Even
>> >ar mashed potatoes, which I like gives me that feeling if I eat too 
>> >much. Has
>> >ar anyone experienced a similar problem not liking certain textures and 
>> >what
>> >ar have you done to overcome it? I also don't have a sense of smell, so 
>> >the
>> >ar food I don't like does not have much appeal even if it is supposed to

>> >taste
>> >ar good. Even eating the fruit that I like (sweet, crisp apples) doesn't

>> >take
>> >ar away my sweet craving. I try to eat lots of vegetables, so maybe that

>> >makes
>> >ar up for the lack of fruit. Is eating fruit still recommended on a low
>> >ar carbohydrate diet? I use an insulin pump, so I can't make the excuse 
>> >that
>> >ar fruit will raise my blood sugar too high (smile).
>> >ar I hope that I haven't gone off topic.
>>
>> >ar Chanelle
>>
>>
>> >ar --------------------------------------------------
>> >ar From: "Bernadette Jacobs" <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
>> >ar Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 9:02 AM
>> >ar To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >ar Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Excellent Article
>>
>> >>> On 6/16/12, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>> >>> ar Diabetics are often bombarded with advice on what's the "best" 
>> >>> diet for
>> >>> ar them
>> >>> ar (as if diabetes is just one disease). The American diabetes 
>> >>> Association
>> >>> ar tells us not to eliminate carbs from our diet (ignoring the fact 
>> >>> that the
>> >>> ar Inuit did and are doing quite well, thank you, without much 
>> >>> carbohydrate
>> >>> ar in
>> >>> ar the diet). The Atkins people hit us with just the opposite advice 
>> >>> but
>> >>> ar arouse
>> >>> ar suspicion in some because of their association with certain types 
>> >>> of
>> >>> ar alternative medical therapies.
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar It seems as though the advice is driven as much by the current
>> >>> ar politically-correct, medical and scientific fads as it is by solid
>> >>> ar research
>> >>> ar (which is damnably difficult to do when dealing with diets and
>> >>> ar nutrition).
>> >>> ar And seldom is the ininreal* science behind all these assertions 
>> >>> carefully
>> >>> ar and
>> >>> ar rigorously examined. It's high time this changed. It's why I had a
>> >>> ar different
>> >>> ar sourt of dietitian at last year's DAN Seminar and why I often come

>> >>> across
>> >>> ar as
>> >>> ar a terminal skeptic.
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar Check out the blog post at the link shown below and get what seems

>> >>> to be
>> >>> ar more the straight scoop on all this. Many of our most cherished 
>> >>> and
>> >>> ar unquestioned assumptions turn out to have little scientific basis.
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar 
>> >>>
http://www.drbriffa.com/2012/03/05/whats-wrong-with-the-dietary-advice-diabe
>> >>> ar tes-uk-dishes-out-to-diabetics/
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar Mike Freeman
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar
>> >>> ar
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>> >>> Ya know gang, I was at that DAN Seminar and I really appreciated what
>> >>> that lady had to say.  I think that the way she mapped things out
>> >>> makes one's diabetes far more manageable.  Blindness, (at least to
>> >>> most of us here), is a mere nuisance; a characteristic.  We should be
>> >>> able to make diabetes the same; a mere characteristic or condition
>> >>> which we ourselves are all able to manage and control without being
>> >>> forced by myth, misconception, and society in general to regard our
>> >>> diabetes as a curse!!  Can't have this; can't have that; gotta eat
>> >>> this; gotta eat that; can only eat one cup of this; and whatever you
>> >>> do, don't forget your daily allowance of cardboard packaging; so help
>> >>> you God!!!  After all, ya gotta eat that because if ya eat something
>> >>> that actually tastes good, it's gonna be bad for ya.  I thought the
>> >>> bottom line of what that lady said was very simple: If you eat two
>> >>> pieces of chocolate fudge cake at the end of your meal and two hours
>> >>> later, you peak at 360, you know better than to ever do that again.
>> >>> especially if only you've eaten one piece of that cake and your sugar
>> >>> peaks at 165ish, then you know to allow yourself just one piece.  The
>> >>> object here is to set and know your peak so that if you rise above 
>> >>> it,
>> >>> you know to cut yourself off.  Like Lynn said previously, the key is
>> >>> "MODERATION!"  It's not that you can't have what pleasures of life 
>> >>> you
>> >>> wish.  You simply need to use discretion, disciplin and self control.
>> >>> If you can't control it, don't go there.  Simple as that. My other
>> >>> advice is test, test, test so you know where you are at all times.
>> >>> And, if you don't like your numbers, take heed and don't be afraid to
>> >>> seek counsel if you need.
>>
>> >>> Bern
>>
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