[Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and pumps
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Mon Feb 18 15:07:13 UTC 2013
What's the name of the app again? I'll check it out.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Denise Robinson
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:49 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and pumps
It is accessible
Denise M Robinson
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 17, 2013, at 6:30 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> We don't even know the app is accessible. The ibgStar app isn't.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of d m gina
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 3:02 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and pumps
>
> Where would you get the meter?
> I will keep this message, and as long as I can get my strips with out
> to much squabbling, I will stay with what I am doing.
> Thanks,
> Don't know a thing about this app.
>
> Original message:
>> True trek is the cheapest out there but u can go with the strips u
>> have for whatever meter u have iPhone app primo will read the meter
>> using voice over...true trek has a large display
>
>> Denise M Robinson
>> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:10 PM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>
>>> Hello,
>>> What kind of meter are you using.
>>> I might need to go this route.
>>> Would the strips go for all meters?
>>> Thanks so much.
>>> Is the site easy to use?
>
>>> Original message:
>>>> Insurance is notorious for telling diabetics how much they should
>>>> test and they are wrong. I just stopped fighting them and went this
>>>> route ...I use national diabetic supply and order online and pay
>>>> out of pocket. Can get my test strips for about 13 cents a strip
>>>> and order
>>>> 1200 atna time, which is far cheaper than insurance. I do 12-15
>>>> tests a day and a1c is great. You have to test more, exercise and
>>>> eat well to get a good a1 c
>
>>>> Denise M Robinson
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>
>>>> On Feb 16, 2013, at 4:04 PM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>> Two things are happening for me.
>>>>> the first is, my a one c keeps climbing.
>>>>> I'm doing nothing differently but my numbers are saying the a one
>>>>> c should be lower.
>>>>> I think we will do some adjusting.
>>>>> Secondly with the new insurance, they don't like me to test as
>>>>> often as
> I do.
>>>>> They are saying being a type two I only need to test once.
>>>>> I shared that I would get the Federation diabetic coordinater Mike
>>>>> ha on the matter if they didn't make a change.
>>>>> the doctor shared that I was hyper smile, and I needed to know
>>>>> what is happening at all times.
>>>>> so he wants me to test four times a day.
>>>>> he shared that my a one c is going up.
>>>>> Now I started going to the YMCA for exercising, this could be the
>>>>> reason for the jump.
>>>>> My eating is still the same.
>>>>> I am wondering to keep the insurance company happy ha if I did
insulin?
>>>>> They say they have no problem if I am on it, I thought I was doing
>>>>> well
>
>>>>> just with the pills.
>>>>> Even though he upgraded one of the pills.
>>>>> Just some thoughts.
>>>>> I will see him again on the 25th.
>>>>> Of this month of corse.
>
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> I know many here can relate, but having been type 1 diabetic for
> almost
>>>>>> 30 years, I've seen a lot of trends come and go for treatment.
>>>>>> I've
> been
>>>>>> through the gambit of treatments. It's gotten so much better than
>>>>>> it
> use
>>>>>> to be. Personally, I think pumps are one of the best treatment
> options,
>>>>>> but there are other routes that work well too. I was on Lantis
>>>>>> and Humalog for bolusing before my pump, and this worked much
>>>>>> better than
> my
>>>>>> older treatments. I still have found the pump to give me the best
>>>>>> control and regulation, but it's up to the individual just like
>>>>>> all diabetic management, smile. As young as I am, being only 31,
>>>>>> I know
> very
>>>>>> few people who have had diabetes as long as I have, and I know
>>>>>> fewer type ones, which is different than type two though many
>>>>>> don't know
> this.
>>>>>> This list is nice since there's a wide range of diabetics, grin.
>
>>>>>> Bridgit
>
>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Denise Robinson
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:33 AM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and
>>>>>> pumps
>
>
>>>>>> Yes, the pump is a great thing ...if u started out with the pork
>>>>>> and beef insulin like I did that could be part of the issues, so
>>>>>> people
> need
>>>>>> to keep that in mind. Pork and beef did not relate well in our
>>>>>> bodies but kept me...us alive until the human derivatives came
>>>>>> along...ah
> life
>
>>>>>> Denise M Robinson
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:01 PM, "Veronica Elsea"
>>>>>> <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Oh Denise, I can relate. In other ways my body is also doing
>>>>>>> things "never seen before" by medical personnel. Yeah right! Not fun
at all!
>>>>>>> As far as I'm concerned, anything that gets in the way of
>>>>>>> holding hands is a major bummer!
>
>>>>>>> Having used a pump as long as I have, I do notice some places
>>>>>>> where I try to not insert the cannula because I think there must
>>>>>>> be some scarring building up. But some of that was because of
>>>>>>> the types of needles I used in the beginning. So I change my
>>>>>>> cannula every two days, rather than the three that most people
>>>>>>> recommend. But for me, that pump has really improved my quality
>>>>>>> of life and I sure hope I
> can
>
>>>>>>> keep it going. Paws crossed though.
>
>>>>>>> Veronica
>
>
>>>>>>> Watch the video as The Guide Dog Glee Club sings "Rehab!" Yes! Yes!
>>>>>>> Yes! http://youtu.be/JvakJ5lk6Us Then find more music from
>>>>>>> Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>>>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>>>>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>>>>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>
>
>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:51 PM
>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and
>>>>>>> pumps
>
>>>>>>> Hey Veronica, Bridget and others wondering the same thing
>
>>>>>>> Yes, I am what you call an enigma...not necessarily a good thing
>>>>>>> in the health department. I have had many rare issues with my
>>>>>>> body. No, the doctors never saw such issues either, so that is
>>>>>>> all I can mark
> it
>
>>>>>>> up to, just being very different. I take 12-15 shots a day to
>>>>>>> mimic the pump...and test myself about that much too. The
>>>>>>> sensitive to the cannula is not a general statement to go off of
>>>>>>> unless your skin is very sensitive too. My husband cannot even
>>>>>>> hold my hand for very long because it hurts my fingers. I can't
>>>>>>> wear even slightly tight cloths because it hurts my
>>>>>>> body....well, I think you get the idea. So don't take my remark
>>>>>>> as a general comment, it is just to ask yourself that question
>>>>>>> if you are thinking of getting a pump Denise
>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Veronica Elsea <
>>>>>>> veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> Oh Denise, I too am surprised to hear that you couldn't find an
>>>>>>>> insert cannula that worked for you. Were you using a Medtronic
pump?
>>>>>>>> I only ask because if you were, then your choices were more
limited.
>>>>>>>> I've had trouble with some of theirs, but not with the ones I
>>>>>>>> use with my Cozmo. I don't know what I'm going to do when my
>>>>>>>> Cozmo's
> time
>
>>>>>>>> is up. I do change my own cartridges, readjust my basals, my
>>>>>>>> temporary basals and such. I have
>>>>>>> played
>>>>>>>> with different bolusses, extended and combination, all on my own.
> Our
>
>>>>>>>> big problem now is that no other pump beeps with each key
>>>>>>>> press. So life gets quite adventurous keeping track of where
>>>>>>>> you are. This is really a problem when doing things like
>>>>>>>> entering your blood sugar number manually. But one way or
>>>>>>>> another, ummm, you couldn't pay me enough to go off of a pump
>>>>>>>> and I've been on one since 1991. Hope
> this
>
>>>>>>>> helps.
>
>>>>>>>> Veronica
>
>
>>>>>>>> Watch the video as The Guide Dog Glee Club sings "Rehab!" Yes! Yes!
>>>>>>>> Yes! http://youtu.be/JvakJ5lk6Us Then find more music from
>>>>>>>> Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>>>>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>>>>>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>>>>>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>
>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:23 AM
>>>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and
>>>>>>>> pumps
>
>>>>>>>> And this may be an individual thing, because I've never
>>>>>>>> experienced it, and I don't know any other pump user who has
>>>>>>>> either. You do change the set every 2 to 3 days also. It's
>>>>>>>> certainly something to take int consideration though.
>
>>>>>>>> Bridgit
>
>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:23 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and
>>>>>>>> pumps
>
>
>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>> The only con I have experienced and had to stop using the pump
>>>>>>>> because of it, was the inserts were too painful for me. But my
>>>>>>>> skin is just really sensitive, so if you are too, you will need
>>>>>>>> to think about it more. Wherever I placed the insert, I was
>>>>>>>> very very
> bruised
>
>>>>>>>> all over and eventually it looked like my gut had been to war.
>>>>>>>> I was replacing the inserts everyday and I had tried different
>>>>>>>> ones...none worked What Bridget says is right on the mark
>>>>>>>> otherwise. Denise
>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> There are others who can speak with more experience, but I've
>>>>>>>>> been on a pump for ten years, and most here know I absolutely love
it.
>>>>>>>>> No, it's not for everyone, but more and more diabetics are
> switching
>
>>>>>>>>> to pumps, and most kids are put on pumps ASAP.
>
>>>>>>>>> I have experienced the best control over my glucose levels
>>>>>>>>> ince switching to a pump. I've been type 1 diabetic for 30
>>>>>>>>> years, so that's
>
>>>>>>>>> saying something. Rates can be set up throughout the day
>>>>>>>>> depending on various things like meals, activity and times of
>>>>>>>>> day you experience extremes. This is similar to how the
>>>>>>>>> pancreas works. You then count carbs for meals and snacks and
>>>>>>>>> deliver a bolus only when you eat. I bolus after meals so I
>>>>>>>>> only get insulin for whatever carbs I eat at any given time.
>>>>>>>>> Again, similar to how a pancreas works.
>
>>>>>>>>> I also have more freedom to eat at different times and not
>>>>>>>>> always scheduled times and be active whenever due to the
>>>>>>>>> ability to adjust those basal rates throughout the day. My
>>>>>>>>> pump can have hurly rates to every 15 minutes if need be. This
>>>>>>>>> is great as a mommy of a six-month-old since I'm lucky if I
>>>>>>>>> get to eat before 5 pm when
> daddy
>
>>>>>>>>> gets home, grin.
>
>>>>>>>>> You and a endo would determine your basal rates and bolus. For
>>>>>>>>> instance, I bolus one unit per every 20 grams of carbs. And
>>>>>>>>> your basal
>
>>>>>>>>> rates will usually be adjusted from time to time depending
>>>>>>>>> health, changes in activity and/or eating habits, and if like
>>>>>>>>> me, sometimes your body just experiences changes requiring
>>>>>>>>> adjustments to basal rates.
>
>>>>>>>>> As most of us know, there's currently no fully accessible
>>>>>>>>> pump, but those of us who use them have found pumps that work.
>>>>>>>>> I currently
> use
>
>>>>>>>>> a
>
>>>>>>>>> Cosmo, but they're no longer available. When I get a new one,
>>>>>>>>> I
> will
>
>>>>>>>>> use the Animas, unless something better has come along by that
>>>>>>>>> point.
>
>>>>>>>>> I'm able to count beeps as I navigate my pump. Every time I
>>>>>>>>> press a button, it beeps, notifying me it is doing the
>>>>>>>>> function. Some menus are simple enough that I have memorized,
>>>>>>>>> and othes, I follow
> written
>
>>>>>>>>> directions. I do need a sighted person to adjust my basal
>>>>>>>>> rates and fill cartridges, though I can fill cartridges but
>>>>>>>>> prefer a sighted person for this.
>
>>>>>>>>> My pump has four buttons, so it's not difficult.
>
>>>>>>>>> If this doesn't make sense or I'm not addressing something,
>>>>>>>>> please let
>
>>>>>>>>> me know. And like I said, there are others who can speak more
>>>>>>>>> intelligently on this subject.
>
>>>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Debbie Wunder
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:46 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and pumps
>
>
>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone. Do any of you use a pump, and can you share
>>>>>>>>> with me the pros and cons of using one? I recently did a four
>>>>>>>>> day glucose monitor test where they inject the gadget in your
>>>>>>>>> stomach. I will get the results later today. My nurse educator
>>>>>>>>> keeps bringing up using a pump, I am not sure this is for me.
>>>>>>>>> I have numbers between the 200 and
>
>>>>>>>>> 300's, I drink water, count carbs, and walk for exercise. I am
>>>>>>>>> at a loss, any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>
>
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>>>>>>>> --
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>
>>>>>>>> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>> CEO, TechVision, LLC
>>>>>>>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
>>>>>>>> 423-573-6413
>
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>>>>>>>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the
>>>>>>>> one who is doing it." --Chinese Proverb
>
>>>>>>>> Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are
>>>>>>>> incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are
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>
>>>>>>> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> CEO, TechVision, LLC
>>>>>>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
>>>>>>> 423-573-6413
>
>>>>>>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC,
>>>>>>> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
>>>>>>> keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
>
>>>>>>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the
>>>>>>> one who is doing it." --Chinese Proverb
>
>>>>>>> Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are
>>>>>>> incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are
>>>>>>> powerful beyond imagination. --Albert Einstein
>
>>>>>>> It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
>>>>>>> --Walt Disney
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