[Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and pumps

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Mon Feb 18 18:52:13 UTC 2013 

With respect, my sources aren't so enthusiastic. Be well.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Dr. Denise M Robinson
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:53 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and pumps

prizmo
you can just say "take picture" of the text you want to OCR...and it takes
the picture, scans and puts it into text for voice over to tell
you---incredible app
Denise

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> What's the name of the app again? I'll check it out.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Denise Robinson
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:49 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and pumps
>
> It is accessible
>
> Denise M Robinson
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 17, 2013, at 6:30 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>
> > We don't even know the app is accessible. The ibgStar app isn't.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf Of d m gina
> > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 3:02 PM
> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and pumps
> >
> > Where would you get the meter?
> > I will keep this message, and as long as I can get my strips with out
> > to much squabbling, I will stay with what I am doing.
> > Thanks,
> > Don't know a thing about this app.
> >
> > Original message:
> >> True trek is the cheapest out there but u can go with the strips u
> >> have for whatever meter u have iPhone app primo will read the meter
> >> using voice over...true trek has a large display
> >
> >> Denise M Robinson
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:10 PM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> Hello,
> >>> What kind of meter are you using.
> >>> I might need to go this route.
> >>> Would the strips go for all meters?
> >>> Thanks so much.
> >>> Is the site easy to use?
> >
> >>> Original message:
> >>>> Insurance is notorious for telling diabetics how much they should
> >>>> test and they are wrong. I just stopped fighting them and went this
> >>>> route ...I use national diabetic supply and order online and pay
> >>>> out of pocket.  Can get my test strips for about 13 cents a strip
> >>>> and order
> >>>> 1200 atna time, which is far cheaper than insurance. I do 12-15
> >>>> tests a day and a1c is great. You have to test more, exercise and
> >>>> eat well to get a good a1 c
> >
> >>>> Denise M Robinson
> >>>> Sent from my iPad
> >
> >>>> On Feb 16, 2013, at 4:04 PM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> Hi there,
> >>>>> Two things are happening for me.
> >>>>> the first is, my a one c keeps climbing.
> >>>>> I'm doing nothing differently but my numbers are saying the a one
> >>>>> c should be lower.
> >>>>> I think we will do some adjusting.
> >>>>> Secondly with the new insurance, they don't like me to test as
> >>>>> often as
> > I do.
> >>>>> They are saying being a type two I only need to test once.
> >>>>> I shared that I would get the Federation diabetic coordinater Mike
> >>>>> ha on the matter if they didn't make a change.
> >>>>> the doctor shared that I was hyper smile, and I needed to know
> >>>>> what is happening at all times.
> >>>>> so he wants me to test four times a day.
> >>>>> he shared that my a one c is going up.
> >>>>> Now I started going to the YMCA for exercising, this could be the
> >>>>> reason for the jump.
> >>>>> My eating is still the same.
> >>>>> I am wondering to keep the insurance company happy ha if I did
> insulin?
> >>>>> They say they have no problem if I am on it, I thought I was doing
> >>>>> well
> >
> >>>>> just with the pills.
> >>>>> Even though he upgraded one of the pills.
> >>>>> Just some thoughts.
> >>>>> I will see him again on the 25th.
> >>>>> Of this month of corse.
> >
> >>>>> Original message:
> >>>>>> I know many here can relate, but having been type 1 diabetic for
> > almost
> >>>>>> 30 years, I've seen a lot of trends come and go for treatment.
> >>>>>> I've
> > been
> >>>>>> through the gambit of treatments. It's gotten so much better than
> >>>>>> it
> > use
> >>>>>> to be. Personally, I think pumps are one of the best treatment
> > options,
> >>>>>> but there are other routes that work well too. I was on Lantis
> >>>>>> and Humalog for bolusing before my pump, and this worked much
> >>>>>> better than
> > my
> >>>>>> older treatments. I still have found the pump to give me the best
> >>>>>> control and regulation, but it's up to the individual just like
> >>>>>> all diabetic management, smile. As young as I am, being only 31,
> >>>>>> I know
> > very
> >>>>>> few people who have had diabetes as long as I have, and I know
> >>>>>> fewer type ones, which is different than type two though many
> >>>>>> don't know
> > this.
> >>>>>> This list is nice since there's a wide range of diabetics, grin.
> >
> >>>>>> Bridgit
> >
> >
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > Behalf
> >>>>>> Of Denise Robinson
> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:33 AM
> >>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and
> >>>>>> pumps
> >
> >
> >>>>>> Yes, the pump is a great thing ...if u started out with the pork
> >>>>>> and beef insulin like I did that could be part of the issues, so
> >>>>>> people
> > need
> >>>>>> to keep that in mind. Pork and beef did not relate well in our
> >>>>>> bodies but kept me...us alive until the human derivatives came
> >>>>>> along...ah
> > life
> >
> >>>>>> Denise M Robinson
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >
> >>>>>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:01 PM, "Veronica Elsea"
> >>>>>> <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>>>>> Oh Denise, I can relate. In other ways my body is also doing
> >>>>>>> things "never seen before" by medical personnel. Yeah right! Not
> fun
> at all!
> >>>>>>> As far as I'm concerned, anything that gets in the way of
> >>>>>>> holding hands is a major bummer!
> >
> >>>>>>> Having used a pump as long as I have, I do notice some places
> >>>>>>> where I try to not insert the cannula because I think there must
> >>>>>>> be some scarring building up. But some of that was because of
> >>>>>>> the types of needles I used in the beginning. So I change my
> >>>>>>> cannula every two days, rather than the three that most people
> >>>>>>> recommend. But for me, that pump has really improved my quality
> >>>>>>> of life and I sure hope I
> > can
> >
> >>>>>>> keep it going. Paws crossed though.
> >
> >>>>>>> Veronica
> >
> >
> >>>>>>> Watch the video as The Guide Dog Glee Club sings "Rehab!" Yes!
Yes!
> >>>>>>> Yes! http://youtu.be/JvakJ5lk6Us Then find more music from
> >>>>>>> Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> >>>>>>>              Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs
> >>>>>>> Santa Cruz, California
> >>>>>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>>>>> Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:51 PM
> >>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and
> >>>>>>> pumps
> >
> >>>>>>> Hey Veronica, Bridget and others wondering the same thing
> >
> >>>>>>> Yes, I am what you call an enigma...not necessarily a good thing
> >>>>>>> in the health department. I have had many rare issues with my
> >>>>>>> body. No, the doctors never saw such issues either, so that is
> >>>>>>> all I can mark
> > it
> >
> >>>>>>> up to, just being very different. I take 12-15 shots a day to
> >>>>>>> mimic the pump...and test myself about that much too. The
> >>>>>>> sensitive to the cannula is not a general statement to go off of
> >>>>>>> unless your skin is very sensitive too. My husband cannot even
> >>>>>>> hold my hand for very long because it hurts my fingers. I can't
> >>>>>>> wear even slightly tight cloths because it hurts my
> >>>>>>> body....well, I think you get the idea. So don't take my remark
> >>>>>>> as a general comment, it is just to ask yourself that question
> >>>>>>> if you are thinking of getting a pump Denise
> >
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Veronica Elsea <
> >>>>>>> veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>>>>>> Oh Denise, I too am surprised to hear that you couldn't find an
> >>>>>>>> insert cannula that worked for you. Were you using a Medtronic
> pump?
> >>>>>>>> I only ask because if you were, then your choices were more
> limited.
> >>>>>>>> I've had trouble with some of theirs, but not with the ones I
> >>>>>>>> use with my Cozmo. I don't know what I'm going to do when my
> >>>>>>>> Cozmo's
> > time
> >
> >>>>>>>> is up. I do change my own cartridges, readjust my basals, my
> >>>>>>>> temporary basals and such. I have
> >>>>>>> played
> >>>>>>>> with different bolusses, extended and combination, all on my own.
> > Our
> >
> >>>>>>>> big problem now is that no other pump beeps with each key
> >>>>>>>> press. So life gets quite adventurous keeping track of where
> >>>>>>>> you are. This is really a problem when doing things like
> >>>>>>>> entering your blood sugar number manually. But one way or
> >>>>>>>> another, ummm, you couldn't pay me enough to go off of a pump
> >>>>>>>> and I've been on one since 1991. Hope
> > this
> >
> >>>>>>>> helps.
> >
> >>>>>>>> Veronica
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>> Watch the video as The Guide Dog Glee Club sings "Rehab!" Yes!
> Yes!
> >>>>>>>> Yes! http://youtu.be/JvakJ5lk6Us Then find more music from
> >>>>>>>> Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
> > http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> >>>>>>>>             Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs
> >>>>>>>> Santa Cruz, California
> >>>>>>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:23 AM
> >>>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and
> >>>>>>>> pumps
> >
> >>>>>>>> And this may be an individual thing, because I've never
> >>>>>>>> experienced it, and I don't know any other pump user who has
> >>>>>>>> either. You do change the set every 2 to 3 days also. It's
> >>>>>>>> certainly something to take int consideration though.
> >
> >>>>>>>> Bridgit
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M Robinson
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:23 AM
> >>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and
> >>>>>>>> pumps
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>> Debbie
> >>>>>>>> The only con I have experienced and had to stop using the pump
> >>>>>>>> because of it, was the inserts were too painful for me. But my
> >>>>>>>> skin is just really sensitive, so if you are too, you will need
> >>>>>>>> to think about it more. Wherever I placed the insert, I was
> >>>>>>>> very very
> > bruised
> >
> >>>>>>>> all over and eventually it looked like my gut had been to war.
> >>>>>>>> I was replacing the inserts everyday and I had tried different
> >>>>>>>> ones...none worked  What Bridget says is right on the mark
> >>>>>>>> otherwise. Denise
> >
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Bridgit Pollpeter
> >>>>>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >>>>>>>>> There are others who can speak with more experience, but I've
> >>>>>>>>> been on a pump for ten years, and most here know I absolutely
> love
> it.
> >>>>>>>>> No, it's not for everyone, but more and more diabetics are
> > switching
> >
> >>>>>>>>> to pumps, and most kids are put on pumps ASAP.
> >
> >>>>>>>>> I have experienced the best control over my glucose levels
> >>>>>>>>> ince switching to a pump. I've been type 1 diabetic for 30
> >>>>>>>>> years, so that's
> >
> >>>>>>>>> saying something. Rates can be set up throughout the day
> >>>>>>>>> depending on various things like meals, activity and times of
> >>>>>>>>> day you experience extremes. This is similar to how the
> >>>>>>>>> pancreas works. You then count carbs for meals and snacks and
> >>>>>>>>> deliver a bolus only when you eat. I bolus after meals so I
> >>>>>>>>> only get insulin for whatever carbs I eat at any given time.
> >>>>>>>>> Again, similar to how a pancreas works.
> >
> >>>>>>>>> I also have more freedom to eat at different times and not
> >>>>>>>>> always scheduled times and be active whenever due to the
> >>>>>>>>> ability to adjust those basal rates throughout the day. My
> >>>>>>>>> pump can have hurly rates to every 15 minutes if need be. This
> >>>>>>>>> is great as a mommy of a six-month-old since I'm lucky if I
> >>>>>>>>> get to eat before 5 pm when
> > daddy
> >
> >>>>>>>>> gets home, grin.
> >
> >>>>>>>>> You and a endo would determine your basal rates and bolus. For
> >>>>>>>>> instance, I bolus one unit per every 20 grams of carbs. And
> >>>>>>>>> your basal
> >
> >>>>>>>>> rates will usually be adjusted from time to time depending
> >>>>>>>>> health, changes in activity and/or eating habits, and if like
> >>>>>>>>> me, sometimes your body just experiences changes requiring
> >>>>>>>>> adjustments to basal rates.
> >
> >>>>>>>>> As most of us know, there's currently no fully accessible
> >>>>>>>>> pump, but those of us who use them have found pumps that work.
> >>>>>>>>> I currently
> > use
> >
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >
> >>>>>>>>> Cosmo, but they're no longer available. When I get a new one,
> >>>>>>>>> I
> > will
> >
> >>>>>>>>> use the Animas, unless something better has come along by that
> >>>>>>>>> point.
> >
> >>>>>>>>> I'm able to count beeps as I navigate my pump. Every time I
> >>>>>>>>> press a button, it beeps, notifying me it is doing the
> >>>>>>>>> function. Some menus are simple enough that I have memorized,
> >>>>>>>>> and othes, I follow
> > written
> >
> >>>>>>>>> directions. I do need a sighted person to adjust my basal
> >>>>>>>>> rates and fill cartridges, though I can fill cartridges but
> >>>>>>>>> prefer a sighted person for this.
> >
> >>>>>>>>> My pump has four buttons, so it's not difficult.
> >
> >>>>>>>>> If this doesn't make sense or I'm not addressing something,
> >>>>>>>>> please let
> >
> >>>>>>>>> me know. And like I said, there are others who can speak more
> >>>>>>>>> intelligently on this subject.
> >
> >>>>>>>>> Bridgit
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Debbie Wunder
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:46 AM
> >>>>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] question about high numbers and pumps
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>> Hello everyone. Do any of you use a pump, and can you share
> >>>>>>>>> with me the pros and cons of using one? I recently did a four
> >>>>>>>>> day glucose monitor test where they inject the gadget in your
> >>>>>>>>> stomach. I will get the results later today. My nurse educator
> >>>>>>>>> keeps bringing up using a pump, I am not sure this is for me.
> >>>>>>>>> I have numbers between the 200 and
> >
> >>>>>>>>> 300's, I drink water, count carbs, and walk for exercise. I am
> >>>>>>>>> at a loss, any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >>>>>>>>> Debbie
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> *Dr Denise*
> >
> >>>>>>>> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> >>>>>>>> CEO, TechVision, LLC
> >>>>>>>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
> >>>>>>>> 423-573-6413
> >
> >>>>>>>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on
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> >>>>>>>> keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
> >
> >>>>>>>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the
> >>>>>>>> one who is doing it." --Chinese Proverb
> >
> >>>>>>>> Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are
> >>>>>>>> incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are
> > powerful
> >
> >>>>>>>> beyond imagination. --Albert Einstein
> >
> >>>>>>>> It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
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> >
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> >>>>>>> laurel
> >>>>>>>> creekmusic.com
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> *Dr Denise*
> >
> >>>>>>> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> >>>>>>> CEO, TechVision, LLC
> >>>>>>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
> >>>>>>> 423-573-6413
> >
> >>>>>>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC,
> >>>>>>> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
> >>>>>>> keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
> >
> >>>>>>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the
> >>>>>>> one who is doing it." --Chinese Proverb
> >
> >>>>>>> Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are
> >>>>>>> incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are
> >>>>>>> powerful beyond imagination. --Albert Einstein
> >
> >>>>>>> It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
> >>>>>>> --Walt Disney
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> >>>>>>> creekmusic.com
> >
> >
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