[Diabetes-talk] Prime Rib (was RE: victoza)

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Sun Mar 24 13:44:08 UTC 2013 

What? Every evening isn't a special occasion? I think one ought to have
prime rib 385 days a year, Mexican food 423 days a year and sirloin, new
York or rib-eye steak the other 722 days a year!

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 8:30 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

Love prime rib don't have it often but love to have it for special treats.

Original message:
> I understand. My words were as much for everyone else as for you.

> Incidentally, I don't even worry about trans-fats. Up with prime rib! :-)

> Mike


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sandi Ryan
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:26 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir!  I don't believe saturated fat is the
> problem in our food at all!  At least unless you eat it in really large
> amounts--but that's true of almost any component.  I'd rather eat the real
> food, not the food manufacturers have screwed around with!  A book I'm
> currently reading is convincing me that the problem with increased
diabetes,
> obesity, heart disease, cancer, and living on earth is fructose.  I know
> that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier and
healthier,
> and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which should never have
been
> in our food!

> Sandi

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>> Sandi:

>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis withover
>> 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link between
saturated
>> fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target with the consequences
>> you
>> cite below.

>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would like to
>> admit. (grin)

>> Mike


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of
>> Sandi Ryan
>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing!  In
>> looking

>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the fat in
>> refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't enough to worry
>> about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a day!  We're no longer
>> touting low-fat (I never did!), and people are finding themselves much
>> less
>> hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more fat.

>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without limit!  Mike
is
>> absolutely correct--the issue is portion size and--in the case of
>> fat--what
>> have they replaced the fat with?  Generally, diabetics are better off
>> eating

>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because they are
>> lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!

>> Sandi

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an awful
>>> lot
>>> of preachiness and precious little actual long-term evidence in much of
>>> the
>>> medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give for some refried beans made
>>> with
>>> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to popular
>>> belief.

>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say with
>>> the
>>> bible: prove me now herewith!

>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.

>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom diabetic
>>> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to
represent
>>> all of you! :-)

>>> Mike


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Bridgit Pollpeter
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different like
>>> black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you add meat
>>> back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use ground
>>> turkey around here.

>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I only
>>> gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy, and I
>>> actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of d m gina
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain
>>> tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying to get
>>> used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly
>>> when I am the only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if
>>> anything should happen while over there.
>>> I sure wouldn't want him to go to the pound.
>>> I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
>>> Glad you lost allot of your baby gain.
>>> Keep up the swell work.

>>> Original message:
>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told people

>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs to
>>>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One, start
>>>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are better
>>>> for you
>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
>>> fresh
>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima, etc.
>>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of any
>>> kind
>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so
>>>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do allow
>>> for
>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't live
>>>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be
>>>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever your
>>>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, you can
>>> cut
>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain weight
>>>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old habits.
>>>> Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more constructive and
>>>> productive when trying to lose weight and just healthy living in
>>>> general.

>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with Baby,
>>>> smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from dealing and

>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough finding
>>>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. Somehow, I've
>>>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I need to
>>>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a life-long
>>>> struggle, grin.

>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm likely
>>>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after meals.

>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low blood
>>>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise. Just
>>>> another level to our daily life, sigh.

>>>> Bridgit

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is completely
>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug is
>>>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach to fill

>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've had the

>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening. Had
>>>>> dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game until the
>>>>> second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I felt so
>>>>> tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again.
>>>>> I also have burning in the chest.
>>>>> I think this is from acid.
>>>>> Glad for those who can take it.
>>>>> I played the game now game is over.

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