[Diabetes-talk] Prime Rib (was RE: victoza)

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Sun Mar 24 20:36:04 UTC 2013 

MMM ... I forgot about the daily beer ration! <g>

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:02 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prime Rib (was RE: victoza)

Oh glug only you would?

Original message:
> What? Every evening isn't a special occasion? I think one ought to 
> have prime rib 385 days a year, Mexican food 423 days a year and 
> sirloin, new York or rib-eye steak the other 722 days a year!

> Mike


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 8:30 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

> Love prime rib don't have it often but love to have it for special treats.

> Original message:
>> I understand. My words were as much for everyone else as for you.

>> Incidentally, I don't even worry about trans-fats. Up with prime rib! 
>> :-)

>> Mike


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:26 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir!  I don't believe saturated fat is 
>> the problem in our food at all!  At least unless you eat it in really 
>> large amounts--but that's true of almost any component.  I'd rather 
>> eat the real food, not the food manufacturers have screwed around 
>> with!  A book I'm currently reading is convincing me that the problem 
>> with increased
> diabetes,
>> obesity, heart disease, cancer, and living on earth is fructose.  I 
>> know that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier 
>> and
> healthier,
>> and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which should never 
>> have
> been
>> in our food!

>> Sandi

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>> Sandi:

>>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis 
>>> withover
>>> 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link between
> saturated
>>> fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target with the 
>>> consequences you cite below.

>>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would 
>>> like to admit. (grin)

>>> Mike


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf
> Of
>>> Sandi Ryan
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing!  In 
>>> looking

>>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the fat 
>>> in refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't enough 
>>> to worry about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a day!  We're 
>>> no longer touting low-fat (I never did!), and people are finding 
>>> themselves much less hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more fat.

>>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without limit!  
>>> Mike
> is
>>> absolutely correct--the issue is portion size and--in the case of 
>>> fat--what have they replaced the fat with?  Generally, diabetics are 
>>> better off eating

>>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because 
>>> they are lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!

>>> Sandi

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an 
>>>> awful lot of preachiness and precious little actual long-term 
>>>> evidence in much of the medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give 
>>>> for some refried beans made with real lard again! Actually, lard is 
>>>> quite healthy, contrary to popular belief.

>>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say 
>>>> with the
>>>> bible: prove me now herewith!

>>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.

>>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom 
>>>> diabetic orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected 
>>>> me to
> represent
>>>> all of you! :-)

>>>> Mike


>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different like 
>>>> black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you add 
>>>> meat back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use 
>>>> ground turkey around here.

>>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I only 
>>>> gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy, 
>>>> and I actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.

>>>> Bridgit

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain 
>>>> tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying 
>>>> to get used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am 
>>>> the only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if 
>>>> anything should happen while over there.
>>>> I sure wouldn't want him to go to the pound.
>>>> I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
>>>> Glad you lost allot of your baby gain.
>>>> Keep up the swell work.

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told 
>>>>> people

>>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a 
>>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs 
>>>>> to become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One, 
>>>>> start eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that 
>>>>> are better for you
>>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
>>>> fresh
>>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima, etc.
>>>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of 
>>>>> any
>>>> kind
>>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so 
>>>>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do 
>>>>> allow
>>>> for
>>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't live 
>>>>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be 
>>>>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever 
>>>>> your pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, 
>>>>> you can
>>>> cut
>>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain 
>>>>> weight loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old
habits.
>>>>> Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more constructive 
>>>>> and productive when trying to lose weight and just healthy living 
>>>>> in general.

>>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with 
>>>>> Baby, smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from 
>>>>> dealing and

>>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough 
>>>>> finding the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. 
>>>>> Somehow, I've managed to lose almost all the weight in seven 
>>>>> months, but I need to work on the toning again. Something tells me 
>>>>> this is a life-long struggle, grin.

>>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm 
>>>>> likely to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after
meals.

>>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low blood 
>>>>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise. 
>>>>> Just another level to our daily life, sigh.

>>>>> Bridgit

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.

>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is completely 
>>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug 
>>>>>> is almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach 
>>>>>> to fill

>>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've had 
>>>>>> the

>>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening. 
>>>>>> Had dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game until 
>>>>>> the second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I felt 
>>>>>> so tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again.
>>>>>> I also have burning in the chest.
>>>>>> I think this is from acid.
>>>>>> Glad for those who can take it.
>>>>>> I played the game now game is over.

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