[Diabetes-talk] Prime Rib (was RE: victoza)

Sun Mar 24 21:03:18 UTC 2013

You rock,

Original message:
> MMM ... I forgot about the daily beer ration! <g>

> Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
> m gina
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:02 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prime Rib (was RE: victoza)

> Oh glug only you would?

> Original message:
>> What? Every evening isn't a special occasion? I think one ought to
>> have prime rib 385 days a year, Mexican food 423 days a year and
>> sirloin, new York or rib-eye steak the other 722 days a year!

>> Mike

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of d m gina
>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 8:30 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>> Love prime rib don't have it often but love to have it for special treats.

>> Original message:
>>> I understand. My words were as much for everyone else as for you.

>>> Incidentally, I don't even worry about trans-fats. Up with prime rib!
>>> :-)

>>> Mike

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:26 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir!  I don't believe saturated fat is
>>> the problem in our food at all!  At least unless you eat it in really
>>> large amounts--but that's true of almost any component.  I'd rather
>>> eat the real food, not the food manufacturers have screwed around
>>> with!  A book I'm currently reading is convincing me that the problem
>>> with increased
>> diabetes,
>>> obesity, heart disease, cancer, and living on earth is fructose.  I
>>> know that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier
>>> and
>> healthier,
>>> and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which should never
>>> have
>> been
>>> in our food!

>>> Sandi

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>> Sandi:

>>>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis
>>>> withover
>>>> 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link between
>> saturated
>>>> fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target with the
>>>> consequences you cite below.

>>>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would
>>>> like to admit. (grin)

>>>> Mike

>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>> Of
>>>> Sandi Ryan
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing!  In
>>>> looking

>>>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the fat
>>>> in refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't enough
>>>> to worry about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a day!  We're
>>>> no longer touting low-fat (I never did!), and people are finding
>>>> themselves much less hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more fat.

>>>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without limit!
>>>> Mike
>> is
>>>> absolutely correct--the issue is portion size and--in the case of
>>>> fat--what have they replaced the fat with?  Generally, diabetics are
>>>> better off eating

>>>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because
>>>> they are lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!

>>>> Sandi

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an
>>>>> awful lot of preachiness and precious little actual long-term
>>>>> evidence in much of the medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give
>>>>> for some refried beans made with real lard again! Actually, lard is
>>>>> quite healthy, contrary to popular belief.

>>>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say
>>>>> with the
>>>>> bible: prove me now herewith!

>>>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.

>>>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom
>>>>> diabetic orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected
>>>>> me to
>> represent
>>>>> all of you! :-)

>>>>> Mike

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different like
>>>>> black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you add
>>>>> meat back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use
>>>>> ground turkey around here.

>>>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I only
>>>>> gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy,
>>>>> and I actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.

>>>>> Bridgit

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain
>>>>> tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying
>>>>> to get used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am
>>>>> the only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if
>>>>> anything should happen while over there.
>>>>> I sure wouldn't want him to go to the pound.
>>>>> I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
>>>>> Glad you lost allot of your baby gain.
>>>>> Keep up the swell work.

>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told
>>>>>> people

>>>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>>>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs
>>>>>> to become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One,
>>>>>> start eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that
>>>>>> are better for you
>>>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
>>>>> fresh
>>>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima, etc.
>>>>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of
>>>>>> any
>>>>> kind
>>>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so
>>>>>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do
>>>>>> allow
>>>>> for
>>>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't live
>>>>>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be
>>>>>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever
>>>>>> your pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight,
>>>>>> you can
>>>>> cut
>>>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain
>>>>>> weight loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old
> habits.
>>>>>> Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more constructive
>>>>>> and productive when trying to lose weight and just healthy living
>>>>>> in general.

>>>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with
>>>>>> Baby, smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from
>>>>>> dealing and

>>>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough
>>>>>> finding the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh.
>>>>>> Somehow, I've managed to lose almost all the weight in seven
>>>>>> months, but I need to work on the toning again. Something tells me
>>>>>> this is a life-long struggle, grin.

>>>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm
>>>>>> likely to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after
> meals.

>>>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low blood
>>>>>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise.
>>>>>> Just another level to our daily life, sigh.

>>>>>> Bridgit

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>>>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.

>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is completely
>>>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug
>>>>>>> is almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach
>>>>>>> to fill

>>>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've had
>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.

>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening.
>>>>>>> Had dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game until
>>>>>>> the second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I felt
>>>>>>> so tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again.
>>>>>>> I also have burning in the chest.
>>>>>>> I think this is from acid.
>>>>>>> Glad for those who can take it.
>>>>>>> I played the game now game is over.

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