[Diabetes-talk] victoza

Mon Mar 25 01:16:46 UTC 2013

Actually, the fat in eggs is saturated fat, just like the fat in lard, whole 
milk, meat, or regular cheeses.  There are differences, but it's the same. 
I can't speak off the top of my head about the cholesterol in eggs and 
whether it's different, but I don't think so, since cholesterol is a 
particular compound.  But here again, in the beginning, it made sense to 
think that fats and cholesterol made us fat, and that the cholesterol we ate 
was what gave us high cholesterol levels in our bodies.  Unfortunately, we 
have now learned that almost always the cholesterol that gives you high 
cholesterol is that which is made by your own liver, and dietary cholesterol 
has almost nothing to do with it at all!  Then we were told that okay, 
cholesterol's cool, but saturated fat, that's bad stuff.  But recent studies 
are pretty consistent in demonstrating that it's no worse for you than 
monounsaturated or polyunsaturated fat, and that the trick is to get enough 
fat without eating such huge amounts of food in a day that you gain weight.

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>I agree, though I still recommend not eating high fat foods frequently.
> But yes, portion control and exercise are key for everyone.
>
> And I was told that eggs are actually very good for you, and the
> cholesterol contained in eggs is a good kind that is good for you. Foods
> high in saturated fats have the bad cholesterol we are told to avoid.
>
> Like I said, I believe in moderation, but don't think we should
> completely cut anything from our diet if we enjoy it.
>
> And yes, lard is not as bad for you when in pure form. Like using real
> butter is better than margarine since real butter is not loaded with
> synthetic properties. I use real forms of food and ingredients as much
> as possible since it usually doesn't have a bunch of synthetic stuff. I
> also do organic as possible, which is basically what the lard thing
> comes down too. This is why I'm making my own baby food, grin.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Mike Freeman
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>
> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an awful
> lot of preachiness and precious little actual long-term evidence in much
> of the medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give for some refried
> beans made with real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy,
> contrary to popular belief.
>
> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say with
> the
> bible: prove me now herewith!
>
> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.
>
> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom diabetic
> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to
> represent all of you! :-)
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Bridgit Pollpeter
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different like
> black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you add meat
> back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use ground
> turkey around here.
>
> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I only
> gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy, and I
> actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of d m gina
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>
> yes I sure agree with you,
> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain
> tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying to get
> used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly
> when I am the only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if
> anything should happen while over there.
> I sure wouldn't want him to go to the pound.
> I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
> Glad you lost allot of your baby gain.
> Keep up the swell work.
>
> Original message:
>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told people
>
>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs to
>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One, start
>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are better
>> for you
>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
> fresh
>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima, etc.
>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of any
> kind
>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so
>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do allow
> for
>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't live
>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be
>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever your
>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, you can
> cut
>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain weight
>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old habits.
>> Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more constructive and
>> productive when trying to lose weight and just healthy living in
>> general.
>
>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with Baby,
>> smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from dealing and
>
>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough finding
>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. Somehow, I've
>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I need to
>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a life-long
>> struggle, grin.
>
>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm likely
>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after meals.
>
>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low blood
>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise. Just
>> another level to our daily life, sigh.
>
>> Bridgit
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of d m gina
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>
>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.
>
>> Original message:
>>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is completely
>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug is
>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach to fill
>
>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've had the
>
>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening. Had
>>> dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game until the
>>> second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I felt so
>>> tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again.
>>> I also have burning in the chest.
>>> I think this is from acid.
>>> Glad for those who can take it.
>>> I played the game now game is over.
>
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>>> every sinner has a future
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