[Diabetes-talk] Prime Rib (was RE: victoza)

Mon Mar 25 01:46:07 UTC 2013

Depends on how it's made, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Mike Freeman
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:43 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prime Rib (was RE: victoza)

Yeah ... the best part of the spaghetti is the garlic bread!

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Sandi Ryan
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:53 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prime Rib (was RE: victoza)

Nearly anything goes great with garlic butter!

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernadette Jacobs" <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Prime Rib (was RE: victoza)

> I'm in complete agreement with Mike!!!  Love that Mexican Food and I 
> sure do love that prime rib!!!  As for the others, I'd rather pork out

> on seafood!  Myself...  I love it all--squid, octopus, lobster, 
> shrimp, scallops, and every last bit of it--swimming in hot garlic 
> butter!!!  I'm salivating just typing all this right now!!!  This is 
> entirely hopeless!!!
>
> Bern
>
> On 3/24/13, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>> What? Every evening isn't a special occasion? I think one ought to 
>> have prime rib 385 days a year, Mexican food 423 days a year and 
>> sirloin, new York or rib-eye steak the other 722 days a year!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of
>> d
>> m gina
>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 8:30 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>> Love prime rib don't have it often but love to have it for special
>> treats.
>>
>> Original message:
>>> I understand. My words were as much for everyone else as for you.
>>
>>> Incidentally, I don't even worry about trans-fats. Up with prime 
>>> rib!
>>> :-)
>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:26 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir!  I don't believe saturated fat is 
>>> the problem in our food at all!  At least unless you eat it in 
>>> really large amounts--but that's true of almost any component.  I'd 
>>> rather eat the real food, not the food manufacturers have screwed 
>>> around with!  A book I'm currently reading is convincing me that the

>>> problem with increased
>> diabetes,
>>> obesity, heart disease, cancer, and living on earth is fructose.  I 
>>> know that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier 
>>> and
>> healthier,
>>> and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which should never 
>>> have
>> been
>>> in our food!
>>
>>> Sandi
>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>> Sandi:
>>
>>>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis 
>>>> withover 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link 
>>>> between
>> saturated
>>>> fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target with the
>>>> consequences
>>>> you
>>>> cite below.
>>
>>>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would 
>>>> like
>>>> to
>>>> admit. (grin)
>>
>>>> Mike
>>
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf
>> Of
>>>> Sandi Ryan
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing!  
>>>> In looking
>>
>>>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the 
>>>> fat in refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't 
>>>> enough to worry about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a 
>>>> day!  We're no longer touting low-fat (I never did!), and people 
>>>> are finding themselves much less
>>>> hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more fat.
>>
>>>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without limit!  
>>>> Mike
>> is
>>>> absolutely correct--the issue is portion size and--in the case of 
>>>> fat--what have they replaced the fat with?  Generally, diabetics 
>>>> are better off eating
>>
>>>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because 
>>>> they are lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!
>>
>>>> Sandi
>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an

>>>>> awful lot
>>>>> of preachiness and precious little actual long-term evidence in
much 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give for some refried beans

>>>>> made
>>>>> with
>>>>> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to
popular
>>>>> belief.
>>
>>>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say 
>>>>> with the
>>>>> bible: prove me now herewith!
>>
>>>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.
>>
>>>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom 
>>>>> diabetic orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected

>>>>> me to
>> represent
>>>>> all of you! :-)
>>
>>>>> Mike
>>
>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of
>>>>> Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different 
>>>>> like black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when 
>>>>> you add meat back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We 
>>>>> usually use ground turkey around here.
>>
>>>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I 
>>>>> only gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during 
>>>>> pregnancy, and I actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have,

>>>>> grin.
>>
>>>>> Bridgit
>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of d m gina
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain 
>>>>> tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying 
>>>>> to get used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly
>>>>> when I am the only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog
if
>>>>> anything should happen while over there.
>>>>> I sure wouldn't want him to go to the pound.
>>>>> I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
>>>>> Glad you lost allot of your baby gain.
>>>>> Keep up the swell work.
>>
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told
>>>>>> people
>>
>>>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a 
>>>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs

>>>>>> to become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One, 
>>>>>> start eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that 
>>>>>> are better for you
>>>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
>>>>> fresh
>>>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima, 
>>>>>> etc. Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity

>>>>>> of any
>>>>> kind
>>>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so 
>>>>>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do 
>>>>>> allow
>>>>> for
>>>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't 
>>>>>> live without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it

>>>>>> be chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever

>>>>>> your pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, 
>>>>>> you can
>>>>> cut
>>>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain 
>>>>>> weight loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to 
>>>>>> old habits. Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more 
>>>>>> constructive and productive when trying to lose weight and just 
>>>>>> healthy living in general.
>>
>>>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with 
>>>>>> Baby, smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from 
>>>>>> dealing and
>>
>>>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough 
>>>>>> finding the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. 
>>>>>> Somehow, I've managed to lose almost all the weight in seven 
>>>>>> months, but I need to work on the toning again. Something tells 
>>>>>> me this is a life-long struggle, grin.
>>
>>>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm 
>>>>>> likely to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity 
>>>>>> after meals.
>>
>>>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low 
>>>>>> blood sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of 
>>>>>> exercise. Just another level to our daily life, sigh.
>>
>>>>>> Bridgit
>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.

>>>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.
>>
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is completely

>>>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug 
>>>>>>> is almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach

>>>>>>> to fill
>>
>>>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've 
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> the
>>
>>>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.
>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On

>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening.

>>>>>>> Had dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game 
>>>>>>> until the second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow.

>>>>>>> I felt so tired, really drained. I want my happy self back 
>>>>>>> again. I also have burning in the chest. I think this is from 
>>>>>>> acid. Glad for those who can take it.
>>>>>>> I played the game now game is over.
>>
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