[Diabetes-talk] NPR News: Whole Milk OrSkim? StudyLinksFattier Milk To Slimmer Kids

Mon Mar 25 01:48:38 UTC 2013

I mentioned scientists, but not to the proper extent.  In spite of 
scientific method, scientists often believe they must have the only right 
answer, even though they haven't yet done the science.  And both scientists 
and docs tend to have strong opinions about things they've never studied.

Gotta love 'em!

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] NPR News: Whole Milk OrSkim? StudyLinksFattier 
Milk To Slimmer Kids

> Hey Sandi!
>
> You forgot about the medicos and other scientists that are constantly on 
> the
> hunt for research dollars so cater to the media's hunger for quick 
> answers.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sandi Ryan
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 5:58 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] NPR News: Whole Milk Or Skim? 
> StudyLinksFattier
> Milk To Slimmer Kids
>
> A lot of that happens because the media pick up on certain tiny morsels of
> information from a bunch of studies, feed it to the American public, and
> it's grabbed up as fact.  And a lot of times, scientists don't contradict
> things because, hey, they like the limelight!  The pattern in our country
> today is do a study, talk about it, get sound-bites into the media, work
> with manufacturers to get the latest thing on the shelf, then study it 
> some
> more, find out it doesn't really work, but continue to sell it to those 
> who,
> regardless of evidence, still believe it.  Lots of irresponsibility to go
> around! *smile*
>
> Sandi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] NPR News: Whole Milk Or Skim? 
> StudyLinksFattier
> Milk To Slimmer Kids
>
>
>> And like everything else, medical treatments go through trends. We are
>> told one thing only to have it changed. Like butter, caffeine, no-carb
>> diets, low-protein diets, etc. And the beat goes on.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:31 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] NPR News: Whole Milk Or Skim? Study
>> LinksFattier Milk To Slimmer Kids
>>
>>
>> I put the article below on this site to demonstrate the fuzzy-think
>> that even medical authorities manifest when confronted with something
>> that doesn't fit their cherished ideas. Note the twin responses of the
>> pediatrician cited at the end of the article: (1) this *can't* be true
>> and
>> (2) the kids were overweight to begin with. Well hello! Aren't these
>> the kids we're worried about? And note the inability of the "experts"
>> to admit that people may differ and that, for some, calorie intake may
>> *not* be totally predictive of energy use.
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:02 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] NPR News: Whole Milk Or Skim? Study Links
>> Fattier Milk To Slimmer Kids
>>
>> Whole Milk Or Skim? Study Links Fattier Milk To Slimmer Kids
>>
>> by Allison Aubrey
>>
>> March 20, 201312:27 PM
>>
>> Parents are currently advised to switch toddlers to reduced-fat milk
>> at age 2.
>>
>> David M. Goehring/Via Flickr
>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/carbonnyc/2060372584/in/photostream/>
>>
>> Parents are currently advised to switch toddlers to reduced-fat milk
>> at age 2.
>>
>> The job of parenting toddlers ain't easy. Consider the 2-year-old
>> to-do
>> list: Get tantrums under control. Potty train. Transition from whole
>> milk to low-fat milk.
>>
>> Speaking from experience, only one of these things was easy.
>>
>> As my daughter turned 2 in January, we made the simple switch to
>> reduced-fat milk. Done. Don't need to overthink this one, right?
>>
>> After all, I'm following the evidence-based advice of the American
>> Academy of Pediatrics.
>>
>> The guidance
>> <http://www.pediatrics.org/cgi/doi/10.1542/peds.2008-1349>
>> is based on studies that found children who consumed low-fat milk as
>> part of a reduced-saturated-fat diet had lower concentrations of LDL
>> cholesterol. Given the body of evidence in adults linking high
>> cholesterol to increased risk of heart disease, it makes sense to keep
>> an eye on cholesterol, beginning in childhood.
>>
>> And if you take fat out of milk, you've also reduced calories, which
>> should help protect kids against becoming overweight. At least, that's
>> been the assumption.
>>
>> So here's where things gets confusing. A new study
>> <http://adc.bmj.com/content/early/2013/02/13/archdischild-2012-302941.
>> sh
>> ort?
>> g=w_adc_ahead_tab>  of preschool-aged children published in the
>> Archives of Disease in Childhood, a sister publication of the British
>> Medical Journal, finds that low-fat milk was associated with higher
> weight.
>>
>> That's right, kids drinking low-fat milk tended to be heavier.
>>
>> "We were quite surprised" by the findings, Dr. Mark DeBoer
>> <http://uvahealth.com/doctors/physicians/371>  told me in an email. He
>> and his co-author, Dr. Rebecca Scharf
>> <http://uvahealth.com/doctors/physicians/rebeca-scharf> , both of the
>> University of Virginia, had hypothesized just the opposite.
>>
>> But they found the relationship between skim-milk drinkers and higher
>> body weights held up across all racial/ethnic and socioeconomic groups.
>> DeBoer says their data also show that low-fat milk did not restrain
>> weight gain in preschoolers over time.
>>
>> The study included about 10,700 children in the United States. Parents
>> were interviewed about their child's beverage consumption on two
>> occasions: once when the children were 2 years old and again at 4 years.
>> Direct measurements of height and weight (to calculate body mass
>> index) were taken by researchers.
>>
>> Interestingly, this is not the first study to point in this direction.
>>
>> In a 2005 study
>> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Berkey+Milk%2C+dietary+calci
>> um
>> +and
>> +weight+gain> , researchers at Brigham and Women's Hospital reported
>> +weight+gain> that
>> skim and 1 percent milk were associated with weight gain among
>> 9-to-14-year-olds.
>>
>> And a 2010 study
>> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Huh+milk+adiposity>  by
>> researchers at Children's Hospital in Boston, which also looked at
>> preschool-aged children, found that higher intake of whole milk at age
>> 2 was associated with a slightly lower BMI (body mass index). The
>> researchers concluded that switching from whole milk to reduced-fat
>> milk at 2 years did not appear to prevent weight problems in early
> childhood.
>>
>> When you look at these studies together, DeBoer's findings become more
>> intriguing, though it's unclear how higher fat could lead to lower
>> weight.
>>
>> One theory: It's possible that whole milk gives us a greater sense of
>> satiety.
>>
>> "This is speculative," says DeBoer, but if you feel fuller after
>> drinking whole-fat milk, "it may be protective if the other food
>> options are high in calories." In other words, if whole-fat milk saves
>> a kid from eating an extra cookie or a second serving of mashed
>> potatoes, he or she may end up eating fewer calories overall.
>>
>> As the authors acknowledge, one of the shortcomings of the new study
>> is that the researchers did not know how many calories the children
>> were consuming overall or what types of foods they were eating.
>>
>> So is it time to think anew about switching toddlers to low-fat milk?
>>
>> "I don't think there is harm in rethinking a recommendation,
>> particularly if there weren't rigorous data behind it," says DeBoer.
>> He says he hopes his results lead to further, more definitive studies.
>>
>> But not everyone is convinced. "I do think that the recommendation to
>> give low-fat milk at age 2 is sound advice," says Dr. Stephen Daniels
>> <http://www.ucdenver.edu/academics/colleges/medicalschool/departments/
>> pe
>> diat
>> rics/people/bios/Pages/danielsbio.aspx> , a pediatrician at the
>> University of Colorado and member of the AAP's Committee on Nutrition.
>>
>> "I don't think the link between low-fat milk and higher weight makes
>> much sense from a biological perspective," he says.
>>
>> Some of the earliest studies evaluating diets low in saturated fat and
>> cholesterol did find a link to less obesity among girls. And Daniels
>> points out that in the new study, the toddlers who were on low-fat
>> milk were already heavier.
>>
>> "This leaves open the real chance that parents may have been choosing
>> low-fat milk as a weight-management strategy for those who were
>> already overweight," Daniels says.
>>
>> Parents, if this leaves you confused, one thing to keep in mind is
>> that
>> - whether it's whole, 2 percent or skim - milk is probably not a major
>> driver when it comes to childhood weight problems. Many studies have
>> shown that sugar-sweetened beverages play a much bigger role
>> <http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/10/22/163260960/swapping-out-su
>> ga
>> ry-s
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>>
>>
>>
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