[Diabetes-talk] victoza

Robert Shelton rshelton1 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 25 02:04:06 UTC 2013 

Two of my sons work for Whole Foods -- home of the $50 grocery bag, but
there is something to "organic" food being better.  Since there is more room
under the price curve, often suppliers and shippers are quite a bit more
careful with it.  In most cases, it has little to do with how the food is
grown, but it has everything to do with how it gets from the plant to your
plate.  If you pay extra, I'll bet you take more care in
cooking/preparation.  All sorts of interesting effects which don't lend
themselves to easy characterization.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:54 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

My meaning is that *everything* that comes from animals or plants *already*
is organic -- unless you like eating rocks! "Organic" means that whatever it
is has carbon in it. I'm heaping scorn upon those who misuse scientific
terminology. And I have absolutely no objections to chemicals in my food.
Frankly, with the possible exception of such things as fresh vegetables, I
don't find quite the taste differences between so-called organic stuff and
what we normally buy in the store as aficionados do. It's sorta like what
happens when beer conoisseurs taste-test beers under scientific conditions.
With the exception of noticing the differences between differently brewed
beers, they most often can't tell the difference. It's the label and price
that stimulates them! In fact, free-range or barnyard-raised chickens are
tougher -- just as wild turkey is a lot stringier than domestically-raised
turkey.

But to each his/her own. Have fun paying far too much for the satisfaction
of misusing a word! (huge grin)

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:36 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

Ever had organic? It usually taste so much better. Try organic eggs; delish,
smile. And organic fresh fruits and veggies-- never going back, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:58 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


Organic? I'd better stop before my fingers type something profane!

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:36 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

I agree, though I still recommend not eating high fat foods frequently.
But yes, portion control and exercise are key for everyone.

And I was told that eggs are actually very good for you, and the cholesterol
contained in eggs is a good kind that is good for you. Foods high in
saturated fats have the bad cholesterol we are told to avoid.

Like I said, I believe in moderation, but don't think we should completely
cut anything from our diet if we enjoy it.

And yes, lard is not as bad for you when in pure form. Like using real
butter is better than margarine since real butter is not loaded with
synthetic properties. I use real forms of food and ingredients as much as
possible since it usually doesn't have a bunch of synthetic stuff. I also do
organic as possible, which is basically what the lard thing comes down too.
This is why I'm making my own baby food, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an awful lot
of preachiness and precious little actual long-term evidence in much of the
medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give for some refried beans made with
real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to popular
belief.

The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say with the
bible: prove me now herewith!

The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.

But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom diabetic
orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to represent
all of you! :-)

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different like black
beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you add meat back in,
you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use ground turkey around
here.

I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I only gained
abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy, and I actually ate
probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


yes I sure agree with you,
We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain tortilla.
This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying to get used to the
lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am the only one at the gym who
knows what to do with my dog if anything should happen while over there.
I sure wouldn't want him to go to the pound.
I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
Glad you lost allot of your baby gain.
Keep up the swell work.

Original message:
> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told people

> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a 
> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs to 
> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One, start 
> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are better 
> for you
> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
fresh
> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima, etc.
> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of any
kind
> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so 
> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do allow
for
> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't live 
> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be 
> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever your 
> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, you can
cut
> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain weight 
> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old habits.
> Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more constructive and 
> productive when trying to lose weight and just healthy living in 
> general.

> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with Baby, 
> smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from dealing and

> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough finding 
> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. Somehow, I've 
> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I need to 
> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a life-long 
> struggle, grin.

> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm likely 
> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after meals.

> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low blood 
> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise. Just 
> another level to our daily life, sigh.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


> Did she get off of it rite away?
> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.

> Original message:
>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is completely 
>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug is 
>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach to fill

>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've had the

>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of d m gina
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening. Had 
>> dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game until the 
>> second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I felt so 
>> tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again.
>> I also have burning in the chest.
>> I think this is from acid.
>> Glad for those who can take it.
>> I played the game now game is over.

>> --
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>> every sinner has a future

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