[Diabetes-talk] victoza
d m gina
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Mon Mar 25 02:56:33 UTC 2013
OK that is what you do for lunch?
Are you saying breakfast as well?
Don't think I would want that for breakfast giggle.
Original message:
> A loaf of bread and a jar of natural peanut butter will take you a long way.
> Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
> m gina
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:35 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
> Food food food,
> Asking a question on behalf of food.
> What do all of you do when you are on convention.
> I know what Mike does for one of the evenings, watches what he does
> threw out the day then off he goes for the lovely stake and potatoes.
> Do you go find a place for the wonderful egg, or bowl of serial for
> breakfast?
> Do you buy the gronala bar bringing it with you?
> How much cheese sticks do you bring with you?
> To make sure you have enough until you get to the destenation?
> Is there a corner cafe you can go to that won't take all you brought
> just to have a meal?
> Thanks,
> Original message:
>> Before this gets too crazy and sounding like we're a bunch of "granola
>> bars", permit me to point out that before insecticides, one had to cut
> open
>> and examine *every* apple to avoid worms, you could get Trichanosis from
>> pork and the reason you boiled hell out of green beans -- and still do --
> is
>> to avoid botulism. And I can still remember when iodized salt was
> considered
>> a miracle. And as late as the 1920's, one of the means of spreading
>> tuberculosis was via "natural" -- that is, non-Pasteurized -- milk right
> out
>> of a healthy cow.
>> And dare I remind us all that bacteria make our "human" insulin for us?
>> Mike
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Bridgit Pollpeter
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:35 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>> Oh, I know. When you really take time to investigate this stuff, it's
>> quite appalling. Like anything, you can't get to caught up in any craze,
>> but what is allowed to be placed in food including in America, it makes
>> you never want to eat anything processed with additives and synthetic
>> crap.
>> And our food handling practices aren't as sophisticated as many would
>> like to think. Only a handful of states have any guidelines or laws
>> regulating food transportation and distribution. It's not a Federal
>> mandate like we think. Food being transported to markets and restaurants
>> usually has no one checking at weigh stations or other places. If a
>> state chooses to practice this, it does, but very few do.
>> Bridgit
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Sandi Ryan
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:01 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>> During my education, I was taught that the United States has the safest,
>> best food supply in the world. But that was a lie, too! The things in
>> most
>> processed foods (and I'm not talking about additives, but things we
>> consider
>> food!) are just scary!
>> Sandi
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> I agree with the trans fats and fructose. It's interesting as to why
>>> trans fats were added into foods, and it's something that shouldn't
>>> have ever happened.
>>> Bridgit
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:26 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir! I don't believe saturated fat is
>>> the problem in our food at all! At least unless you eat it in really
>>> large amounts--but that's true of almost any component. I'd rather
>>> eat the real food, not the food manufacturers have screwed around
>>> with! A book I'm currently reading is convincing me that the problem
>>> with increased diabetes,
>>> obesity, heart disease, cancer, and living on earth is fructose. I
>> know
>>> that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier and
>>> healthier, and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which
>>> should never have been
>>> in our food!
>>> Sandi
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>> Sandi:
>>>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis
>>>> withover
>>>> 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link between
>>>> saturated fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target with the
>>>> consequences you cite below.
>>>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would like
>>>> to admit. (grin)
>>>> Mike
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing! In
>>>> looking
>>>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the fat
>>>> in refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't enough
>>>> to
>>>> worry about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a day! We're no
>>>> longer touting low-fat (I never did!), and people are finding
>>>> themselves much less hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more fat.
>>>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without limit!
>>>> Mike is absolutely correct--the issue is portion size and--in the
>>>> case
>>>> of fat--what have they replaced the fat with? Generally, diabetics
>>>> are better off eating
>>>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because they
>>>> are lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!
>>>> Sandi
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an
>>>>> awful lot of preachiness and precious little actual long-term
>>>>> evidence in much of the medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give
>>>>> for some refried beans
>>> made
>>>>> with
>>>>> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to
>>>>> popular belief.
>>>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say
>>>>> with the
>>>>> bible: prove me now herewith!
>>>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.
>>>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom
>>>>> diabetic
>>>>> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to
>>>>> represent all of you! :-)
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different like
>>>>> black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you add
>>>>> meat back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use
>>>>> ground turkey around here.
>>>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I only
>>>>> gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy, and
>>>>> I actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.
>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain
>>>>> tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying to
>>>>> get used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am the
>>>>> only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if anything
>>>>> should happen while over there. I sure wouldn't want him to go to
>>>>> the
>>>>> pound. I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening. Glad
>>>>> you lost allot of your baby gain. Keep up the swell work.
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>>>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One, start
>>>>>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are
>>>>>> better
>>>>>> for you
>>>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
>>>>> fresh
>>>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima,
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of any
>>>>> kind
>>>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so
>>>>>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do allow
>>>>> for
>>>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't live
>>>>>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be
>>>>>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever your
>>>>>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, you can
>>>>> cut
>>>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain
>>>>>> weight
>>>>>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old
>>>>>> habits. Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more
>>>>>> constructive and productive when trying to lose weight and just
>>>>>> healthy living in general.
>>>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with
>>>>>> Baby, smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from
>>>>>> dealing and
>>>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough finding
>>>>>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. Somehow,
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a life-long
>>>>>> struggle, grin.
>>>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm
>>>>>> likely
>>>>>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after
>>>>>> meals.
>>>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low blood
>>>>>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise.
>>>>>> Just another level to our daily life, sigh.
>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>>>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience. This opinion is completely
>>>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug is
>>>>>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach to
>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases. My sympathies. We've had
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening.
>>>>>>> Had dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game until
>>>>>>> the second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I felt
>>>>>>> so tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again. I also
>>>>>>> have burning in the chest. I think this is from acid. Glad for
>>>>>>> those who can take it. I played the game now game is over.
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