[Diabetes-talk] victoza

Robert Shelton rshelton1 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 25 03:00:35 UTC 2013


Beer, it's not just for breakfast any more.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:57 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

OK that is what you do for lunch?
Are you saying breakfast as well?
Don't think I would want that for breakfast giggle.

Original message:
> A loaf of bread and a jar of natural peanut butter will take you a long
way.

> Mike


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:35 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

> Food food food,
> Asking a question on behalf of food.
> What do all of you do when you are on convention.
> I know what Mike does for one of the evenings, watches what he does 
> threw out the day then off he goes for the lovely stake and potatoes.
> Do you go find a place for the wonderful egg, or bowl of serial for 
> breakfast?
> Do you buy the gronala bar bringing it with you?
> How much cheese sticks do you bring with you?
> To make sure you have enough until you get to the destenation?
> Is there a corner cafe you can go to that won't take all you brought 
> just to have a meal?
> Thanks,

> Original message:
>> Before this gets too crazy and sounding like we're a bunch of 
>> "granola bars", permit me to point out that before insecticides, one 
>> had to cut
> open
>> and examine *every* apple to avoid worms, you could get Trichanosis 
>> from pork and the reason you boiled hell out of green beans -- and 
>> still do --
> is
>> to avoid botulism. And I can still remember when iodized salt was
> considered
>> a miracle. And as late as the 1920's, one of the means of spreading 
>> tuberculosis was via "natural" -- that is, non-Pasteurized -- milk 
>> right
> out
>> of a healthy cow.

>> And dare I remind us all that bacteria make our "human" insulin for us?

>> Mike


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:35 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>> Oh, I know. When you really take time to investigate this stuff, it's 
>> quite appalling. Like anything, you can't get to caught up in any 
>> craze, but what is allowed to be placed in food including in America, 
>> it makes you never want to eat anything processed with additives and 
>> synthetic crap.

>> And our food handling practices aren't as sophisticated as many would 
>> like to think. Only a handful of states have any guidelines or laws 
>> regulating food transportation and distribution. It's not a Federal 
>> mandate like we think. Food being transported to markets and 
>> restaurants usually has no one checking at weigh stations or other 
>> places. If a state chooses to practice this, it does, but very few do.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:01 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>> During my education, I was taught that the United States has the 
>> safest,

>> best food supply in the world.  But that was a lie, too!  The things 
>> in most processed foods (and I'm not talking about additives, but 
>> things we consider
>> food!) are just scary!

>> Sandi

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>> I agree with the trans fats and fructose. It's interesting as to why 
>>> trans fats were added into foods, and it's something that shouldn't 
>>> have  ever happened.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:26 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir!  I don't believe saturated fat is 
>>> the problem in our food at all!  At least unless you eat it in 
>>> really large amounts--but that's true of almost any component.  I'd 
>>> rather eat the real food, not the food manufacturers have screwed 
>>> around with!  A book I'm currently reading is convincing me that the 
>>> problem with increased diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, and 
>>> living on earth is fructose.  I
>> know

>>> that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier and 
>>> healthier, and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which 
>>> should never have been in our food!

>>> Sandi

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>>> Sandi:

>>>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis 
>>>> withover

>>>> 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link between 
>>>> saturated fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target with 
>>>> the

>>>> consequences you cite below.

>>>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would 
>>>> like

>>>> to admit. (grin)

>>>> Mike


>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing!  
>>>> In looking

>>>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the 
>>>> fat in refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't 
>>>> enough to

>>>> worry about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a day!  We're 
>>>> no longer touting low-fat (I never did!), and people are finding 
>>>> themselves much less hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more fat.

>>>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without limit!
>>>> Mike is absolutely correct--the issue is portion size and--in the 
>>>> case

>>>> of fat--what have they replaced the fat with?  Generally, diabetics 
>>>> are better off eating

>>>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because 
>>>> they

>>>> are lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!

>>>> Sandi

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an 
>>>>> awful lot of preachiness and precious little actual long-term 
>>>>> evidence in much of the medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd 
>>>>> give for some refried beans
>>> made
>>>>> with
>>>>> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to 
>>>>> popular belief.

>>>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say 
>>>>> with the
>>>>> bible: prove me now herewith!

>>>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.

>>>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom 
>>>>> diabetic

>>>>> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to 
>>>>> represent all of you! :-)

>>>>> Mike


>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different 
>>>>> like black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when 
>>>>> you add meat back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We 
>>>>> usually use ground turkey around here.

>>>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I 
>>>>> only gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during 
>>>>> pregnancy, and

>>>>> I actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.

>>>>> Bridgit

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain 
>>>>> tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying 
>>>>> to

>>>>> get used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am 
>>>>> the only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if 
>>>>> anything should happen while over there. I sure wouldn't want him 
>>>>> to go to the

>>>>> pound. I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening. 
>>>>> Glad you lost allot of your baby gain. Keep up the swell work.

>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told 
>>>>>> people

>>>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a 
>>>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs 
>>>>>> to

>>>>>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One, 
>>>>>> start

>>>>>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are 
>>>>>> better

>>>>>> for you
>>>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
>>>>> fresh
>>>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima, 
>>>>>> etc.

>>>>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of 
>>>>>> any
>>>>> kind
>>>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so 
>>>>>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do 
>>>>>> allow
>>>>> for
>>>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't 
>>>>>> live without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it 
>>>>>> be chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever 
>>>>>> your

>>>>>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, you 
>>>>>> can
>>>>> cut
>>>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain 
>>>>>> weight

>>>>>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old 
>>>>>> habits. Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more 
>>>>>> constructive and productive when trying to lose weight and just 
>>>>>> healthy living in general.

>>>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with 
>>>>>> Baby, smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from 
>>>>>> dealing and

>>>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough 
>>>>>> finding

>>>>>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. Somehow, 
>>>>>> I've

>>>>>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I need 
>>>>>> to

>>>>>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a life-long 
>>>>>> struggle, grin.

>>>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm 
>>>>>> likely

>>>>>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after 
>>>>>> meals.

>>>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low 
>>>>>> blood sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of
exercise.
>>>>>> Just another level to our daily life, sigh.

>>>>>> Bridgit

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


>>>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>>>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.

>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is completely 
>>>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug 
>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach to 
>>>>>>> fill

>>>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've 
>>>>>>> had the

>>>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.

>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>>>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening.
>>>>>>> Had dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game 
>>>>>>> until the second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. 
>>>>>>> I felt so tired, really drained. I want my happy self back 
>>>>>>> again. I also have burning in the chest. I think this is from 
>>>>>>> acid. Glad for those who can take it. I played the game now game is
over.

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