[Diabetes-talk] [Diabetes-talk Convention ideals

Mon Mar 25 23:55:45 UTC 2013

Dear Bern,
My friends and I have been doing that for years.  We get breakfast and lunch 
items because it saves time, money and calories.

Joy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernadette Jacobs" <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

> As for Bill and me, we do a combination of all those things.  Thing
> we've done lately is to split a cab with two or three people, hit a
> grocery store for all our goodies.  I buy plenty of fresh fruits and a
> couple bags of salad mix and a couple bottles of dressing and we grab
> a couple cases of water for the week and haul it back in the cabby.
> No matter what you spend on the cab, sure beats all you'll spend for
> meals at and around the hotel!  We usually try to only eat one meal
> out a day.  We buy oatmeal, granola bars, cereal, and a gallon of
> milk.  We bring a couple sets of utensils along with us and simply
> rewash them in the sink.  As for coffee, we use the hotel coffee, (bad
> as it usually is), then maybe treat ourselves to Starbucks or D-N-D,
> whatever is there.  After all, I've gotta have "real" coffee!!  Bill
> and I will pick up an occasional snack-pack or so and I try to pick
> out the least offensive crud.  I simply test and if I need more
> insulin than I would at home, I've got it there and I use it to save
> my numbers.
>
> Bern
>
> On 3/25/13, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>> How nice you can drive over.
>> We will have three in our room, so we will all work together I am sure.
>> Thanks for all the advice.
>>
>> Original message:
>>> Last year my husband and I drove to convention.  We brought along a big
>>> cooler full of eggs, some bacon, salad veggies, little pouches of
>>> chicken,
>>> ham, etc., and we brought along our Keurig single-cup coffeemaker and a
>>> tiny
>>> electric frying pan.  We replenished food as needed at local grocery
>>> stores
>>> and ate breakfast and lunch in our room.  At dinner we went out to a
>>> local
>>> restaurant and enjoyed reasonable food.
>>
>>> If you didn't drive, you could probably ship the cooler, pan, and any
>>> canned
>>> goods ahead, then buy food when you get there.  The fridge is an even
>>> better
>>> idea.
>>
>>> If you want to eat breakfast and lunch out and not have the hassle of
>>> making
>>> your own food, you can usually get eggs or cereal or an English muffin,
>>> etc.
>>> from room service or the restaurant, though hotel food is horribly
>>> expensive.  And there's usually a good place to get a salad for lunch, 
>>> or
>>> a
>>> grilled chicken or burger sandwich.  I always figure the trick for me is
>>> not
>>> to just go all out, have dessert with every meal, eat huge portions, and
>>> come home with high blood sugar and a tighter waistband.  Eat what you
>>> like,
>>> but stay aware of portions.  In my opinion, skipping French fries and
>>> sugary
>>> drinks goes a long way in that direction!
>>
>>> Sandi
>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>> It can get pricey if you eat out all the time. We usually pack food, 
>>>> and
>>>> the last time we went, we had food shipped ahead of us. We brought
>>>> things like granola bars, pretzels, water, juice, bread and lunchmeat
>>>> and cheese. Also check into local eateries to find out prices. Some
>>>> people treat it like a vaca and eat out for every meal, while others
>>>> prefer to save on the expense of food. It's all what you prefer. Most
>>>> rooms do have a mini fridge, and most places will provide one if you
>>>> request it. Since I have insulin, I typically get one since it needs to
>>>> be kept in the fridge. This means I can keep food in it as well, smile.
>>
>>>> Bridgit
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of d m gina
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>> Food food food,
>>>> Asking a question on behalf of food.
>>>> What do all of you do when you are on convention.
>>>> I know what Mike does for one of the evenings, watches what he does
>>>> threw out the day then off he goes for the lovely stake and potatoes. 
>>>> Do
>>>> you go find a place for the wonderful egg, or bowl of serial for
>>>> breakfast? Do you buy the gronala bar bringing it with you? How much
>>>> cheese sticks do you bring with you? To make sure you have enough until
>>>> you get to the destenation? Is there a corner cafe you can go to that
>>>> won't take all you brought
>>>> just to have a meal?
>>>> Thanks,
>>
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Before this gets too crazy and sounding like we're a bunch of "granola
>>
>>>>> bars", permit me to point out that before insecticides, one had to cut
>>
>>>>> open and examine *every* apple to avoid worms, you could get
>>>>> Trichanosis from pork and the reason you boiled hell out of green
>>>>> beans -- and still do -- is to avoid botulism. And I can still
>>>>> remember when iodized salt was considered a miracle. And as late as
>>>>> the 1920's, one of the means of spreading tuberculosis was via
>>>>> "natural" -- that is, non-Pasteurized -- milk right out of a healthy
>>>>> cow.
>>
>>>>> And dare I remind us all that bacteria make our "human" insulin for
>>>>> us?
>>
>>>>> Mike
>>
>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:35 PM
>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>>>> Oh, I know. When you really take time to investigate this stuff, it's
>>>>> quite appalling. Like anything, you can't get to caught up in any
>>>>> craze, but what is allowed to be placed in food including in America,
>>>>> it makes you never want to eat anything processed with additives and
>>>>> synthetic crap.
>>
>>>>> And our food handling practices aren't as sophisticated as many would
>>>>> like to think. Only a handful of states have any guidelines or laws
>>>>> regulating food transportation and distribution. It's not a Federal
>>>>> mandate like we think. Food being transported to markets and
>>>>> restaurants usually has no one checking at weigh stations or other
>>>>> places. If a state chooses to practice this, it does, but very few do.
>>
>>>>> Bridgit
>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:01 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>>> During my education, I was taught that the United States has the
>>>>> safest,
>>
>>>>> best food supply in the world.  But that was a lie, too!  The things
>>>>> in most processed foods (and I'm not talking about additives, but
>>>>> things we consider
>>>>> food!) are just scary!
>>
>>>>> Sandi
>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:49 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>>>> I agree with the trans fats and fructose. It's interesting as to why
>>>>>> trans fats were added into foods, and it's something that shouldn't
>>>>>> have  ever happened.
>>
>>>>>> Bridgit
>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:26 PM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>>>> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir!  I don't believe saturated fat is
>>>>>> the problem in our food at all!  At least unless you eat it in really
>>
>>>>>> large amounts--but that's true of almost any component.  I'd rather
>>>>>> eat the real food, not the food manufacturers have screwed around
>>>>>> with!  A book I'm currently reading is convincing me that the problem
>>
>>>>>> with increased diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, and living
>>>>>> on earth is fructose.  I
>>>>> know
>>
>>>>>> that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier and
>>>>>> healthier, and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which
>>>>>> should never have been in our food!
>>
>>>>>> Sandi
>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>>>>> Sandi:
>>
>>>>>>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis
>>>>>>> withover
>>
>>>>>>> 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link between
>>>>>>> saturated fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target with
>>>>>>> the
>>
>>>>>>> consequences you cite below.
>>
>>>>>>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would
>>>>>>> like
>>
>>>>>>> to admit. (grin)
>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>
>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>>>>>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing!  In
>>
>>>>>>> looking
>>
>>>>>>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the fat
>>
>>>>>>> in refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't enough
>>>>>>> to
>>
>>>>>>> worry about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a day!  We're no
>>
>>>>>>> longer touting low-fat (I never did!), and people are finding
>>>>>>> themselves much less hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more fat.
>>
>>>>>>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without limit!
>>>>>>> Mike is absolutely correct--the issue is portion size and--in the
>>>>>>> case
>>
>>>>>>> of fat--what have they replaced the fat with?  Generally, diabetics
>>>>>>> are better off eating
>>
>>>>>>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because
>>>>>>> they
>>
>>>>>>> are lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!
>>
>>>>>>> Sandi
>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>>>>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an
>>>>>>>> awful lot of preachiness and precious little actual long-term
>>>>>>>> evidence in much of the medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give
>>
>>>>>>>> for some refried beans
>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to
>>>>>>>> popular belief.
>>
>>>>>>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say
>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>> bible: prove me now herewith!
>>
>>>>>>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.
>>
>>>>>>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom
>>>>>>>> diabetic
>>
>>>>>>>> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to
>>>>>>>> represent all of you! :-)
>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>
>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>>>>>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different like
>>
>>>>>>>> black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you add
>>
>>>>>>>> meat back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use
>>>>>>>> ground turkey around here.
>>
>>>>>>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I only
>>
>>>>>>>> gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy,
>>>>>>>> and
>>
>>>>>>>> I actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.
>>
>>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>>>>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>>>>>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain
>>>>>>>> tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying
>>>>>>>> to
>>
>>>>>>>> get used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am the
>>
>>>>>>>> only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if anything
>>>>>>>> should happen while over there. I sure wouldn't want him to go to
>>>>>>>> the
>>
>>>>>>>> pound. I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening. Glad
>>
>>>>>>>> you lost allot of your baby gain. Keep up the swell work.
>>
>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told
>>>>>>>>> people
>>
>>>>>>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>>>>>>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs
>>>>>>>>> to
>>
>>>>>>>>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One,
>>>>>>>>> start
>>
>>>>>>>>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are
>>>>>>>>> better
>>
>>>>>>>>> for you
>>>>>>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
>>>>>>>> fresh
>>>>>>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima,
>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so
>>>>>>>>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do
>>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't live
>>
>>>>>>>>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be
>>>>>>>>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever
>>>>>>>>> your
>>
>>>>>>>>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, you
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> cut
>>>>>>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain
>>>>>>>>> weight
>>
>>>>>>>>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old
>>>>>>>>> habits. Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more
>>>>>>>>> constructive and productive when trying to lose weight and just
>>>>>>>>> healthy living in general.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with
>>>>>>>>> Baby, smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from
>>>>>>>>> dealing and
>>
>>>>>>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough
>>>>>>>>> finding
>>
>>>>>>>>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. Somehow,
>>>>>>>>> I've
>>
>>>>>>>>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I need
>>>>>>>>> to
>>
>>>>>>>>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a life-long
>>>>>>>>> struggle, grin.
>>
>>>>>>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm
>>>>>>>>> likely
>>
>>>>>>>>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after
>>>>>>>>> meals.
>>
>>>>>>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low blood
>>
>>>>>>>>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise.
>>>>>>>>> Just another level to our daily life, sigh.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>>>>>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>>>>>>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is completely
>>>>>>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>
>>>>>>>>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach to
>>>>>>>>>> fill
>>
>>>>>>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've had
>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>
>>>>>>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>>>>>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening.
>>>>>>>>>> Had dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game until
>>
>>>>>>>>>> the second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I felt
>>
>>>>>>>>>> so tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again. I also
>>
>>>>>>>>>> have burning in the chest. I think this is from acid. Glad for
>>>>>>>>>> those who can take it. I played the game now game is over.
>>
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