[Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks
Sandi Ryan
sjryan2 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 27 22:05:19 UTC 2013
Yes, that is a hard lesson many people learn. You live right, do everything
you can to make everything good, and still things happen. It's especially
hard when it's happening to your child, and I understand mother's guilt, but
you don't need to feel it! I think you're an awesome Mom!
Sandi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks
>I was pretty dedicated to doing everything possible to make my pregnancy
> and delivery successful. I exercised, didn't indulge, ate organic and as
> healthy as possible, avoided caffeine, tested a million times a day,
> adjusted pump rates as needed and so much more. And Declan was born with
> complications. Not necessarily connected to me, but still, mother's
> guilt and all...
>
> He's completely recovered and healthy, but sometimes things happen
> despite your best efforts.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Sandi Ryan
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:22 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks
>
>
> Wow! I bet you did walk around going "slosh, slosh!" Good for you,
> though!
> I don't think I could give up my morning cup of coffee, even for a
> precious
> bundle of joy! Actually, though, at the time they were born, I didn't
> drink
> much coffee. I've always thought our second son was born six weeks
> early
> because, on the Sunday before he came, I drank two cups of coffee, then
> didn't sleep until Thursday night! He was born early the next Sunday
> morning. Who knows--but it was a long time before I drank coffee again!
>
> Sandi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks
>
>
>> If any, it's usually a 8 oz. can a day, but often I drink water. We do
>
>> drink Crystal Light though. While pregnant, they said 1 8 oz. can a
>> day was fine, or really any 8 oz. caffeinated drink, but I didn't
>> drink any caffeine for the entire nine months. I was drinking up to
>> 120 oz. of water a day. I felt like a fish, giggle. I need to get back
>
>> to drinking more water in a day.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:20 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks
>>
>>
>> I don't think that even a couple of diet sodas a day would cause this,
>
>> but because people drink so much, it can do it. And the problem is
>> that it changes the way your body metabolizes other foods, too,
>> leading to more weight gain than would be expected. And insulin
>> resistance is a precursos
>> to diabetes Type 2.
>>
>> Sandi
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks
>>
>>
>>> I've heard of this. I have never experienced weight gain from diet
>>> drinks, but I have heard that this this is possible.
>>>
>>> My mother-in-law is addicted to diet Coke. Like where it's seriously
>>> a
>>
>>> problem. She can't go long without one, and she goes through several
>>> 12 packs in a week. My mom is similar but not quite as bad. They both
>
>>> also complain about not losing weight, and while many factors
>>> contribute to this, perhaps the diet soda is one factor.
>>>
>>> Bridgit
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Denise Robinson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:33 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks
>>>
>>>
>>> Artificial sweetners turn to formaldehyde in the body when
>>> processed.
>>
>>> The by products in them also make you crave them. They can actually
>>> contribute to weight gain. Tons of research on it but you will have
>>> to
>>
>>> do digging on it as the diet companies do not want you to know
>>> this....
>>>
>>> Denise M Robinson
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:09 AM, Bridgit Pollpeter
>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You mention not drinking sugar drinks, and this makes me think of
>>>> something. Is this really a problem for diabetics? Of course this is
>
>>>> rhetorical, but what's the problem with diet drinks? Maybe it's
>>>> because I've been diabetic since the age of four, but I always opt
>>>> for
>>>
>>>> diet drinks or water. I know so many diabetics who don't do this,
>>>> and
>>
>>>> I guess I don't understand why it's such a big deal. I always
>>>> assumed
>>
>>>> it was a given a diabetic would avoid the sugary drinks but guess
>>>> not... And it's kind of like alcohol, it's empty calories, and I'd
>>>> rather spend calories on actual food than a drink, grin.
>>>>
>>>> Bridgit
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:00 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Last year my husband and I drove to convention. We brought along a
>>>> big cooler full of eggs, some bacon, salad veggies, little pouches
>>>> of chicken, ham, etc., and we brought along our Keurig single-cup
>>>> coffeemaker and
>>> a
>>>> tiny
>>>> electric frying pan. We replenished food as needed at local grocery
>
>>>> stores and ate breakfast and lunch in our room. At dinner we went
>>>> out to a local restaurant and enjoyed reasonable food.
>>>>
>>>> If you didn't drive, you could probably ship the cooler, pan, and
>>>> any
>>
>>>> canned goods ahead, then buy food when you get there. The fridge is
>
>>>> an even better idea.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to eat breakfast and lunch out and not have the hassle
>>>> of
>>
>>>> making your own food, you can usually get eggs or cereal or an
>>>> English
>>>
>>>> muffin, etc.
>>>> from room service or the restaurant, though hotel food is horribly
>>>> expensive. And there's usually a good place to get a salad for
>>>> lunch, or a grilled chicken or burger sandwich. I always figure the
>
>>>> trick for me
>>> is
>>>> not
>>>> to just go all out, have dessert with every meal, eat huge portions,
>>> and
>>>>
>>>> come home with high blood sugar and a tighter waistband. Eat what
>>>> you
>>>
>>>> like, but stay aware of portions. In my opinion, skipping French
>>>> fries and sugary drinks goes a long way in that direction!
>>>>
>>>> Sandi
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It can get pricey if you eat out all the time. We usually pack
>>>>> food,
>>
>>>>> and the last time we went, we had food shipped ahead of us. We
>>> brought
>>>>
>>>>> things like granola bars, pretzels, water, juice, bread and
>>>>> lunchmeat and cheese. Also check into local eateries to find out
>>>>> prices. Some people treat it like a vaca and eat out for every
>>>>> meal,
>>
>>>>> while others prefer to save on the expense of food. It's all what
>>>>> you prefer. Most
>>>
>>>>> rooms do have a mini fridge, and most places will provide one if
>>>>> you
>>
>>>>> request it. Since I have insulin, I typically get one since it
>>>>> needs
>>
>>>>> to be kept in the fridge. This means I can keep food in it as well,
>
>>>>> smile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Food food food,
>>>>> Asking a question on behalf of food.
>>>>> What do all of you do when you are on convention.
>>>>> I know what Mike does for one of the evenings, watches what he does
>
>>>>> threw out the day then off he goes for the lovely stake and
>>>>> potatoes.
>>>
>>>>> Do you go find a place for the wonderful egg, or bowl of serial for
>
>>>>> breakfast? Do you buy the gronala bar bringing it with you? How
>>>>> much
>>
>>>>> cheese sticks do you bring with you? To make sure you have enough
>>>>> until you get to the destenation? Is there a corner cafe you can go
>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> that won't take all you brought just to have a meal? Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Before this gets too crazy and sounding like we're a bunch of
>>>>>> "granola
>>>>>
>>>>>> bars", permit me to point out that before insecticides, one had to
>
>>>>>> cut
>>>>>
>>>>>> open and examine *every* apple to avoid worms, you could get
>>>>>> Trichanosis from pork and the reason you boiled hell out of green
>>>>>> beans -- and still do -- is to avoid botulism. And I can still
>>>>>> remember when iodized salt was considered a miracle. And as late
>>>>>> as
>>
>>>>>> the 1920's, one of the means of spreading tuberculosis was via
>>>>>> "natural" -- that is, non-Pasteurized -- milk right out of a
>>>>>> healthy
>>>
>>>>>> cow.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And dare I remind us all that bacteria make our "human" insulin
>>>>>> for
>>
>>>>>> us?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:35 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, I know. When you really take time to investigate this stuff,
>>>>>> it's
>>>>
>>>>>> quite appalling. Like anything, you can't get to caught up in any
>>>>>> craze, but what is allowed to be placed in food including in
>>> America,
>>>>
>>>>>> it makes you never want to eat anything processed with additives
>>>>>> and synthetic crap.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And our food handling practices aren't as sophisticated as many
>>>>>> would
>>>>
>>>>>> like to think. Only a handful of states have any guidelines or
>>>>>> laws
>>
>>>>>> regulating food transportation and distribution. It's not a
>>>>>> Federal
>>
>>>>>> mandate like we think. Food being transported to markets and
>>>>>> restaurants usually has no one checking at weigh stations or other
>
>>>>>> places. If a state chooses to practice this, it does, but very few
>
>>>>>> do.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:01 PM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> During my education, I was taught that the United States has the
>>>>>> safest,
>>>>>
>>>>>> best food supply in the world. But that was a lie, too! The
>>>>>> things in most processed foods (and I'm not talking about
>>>>>> additives, but things we consider
>>>>>> food!) are just scary!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sandi
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:49 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with the trans fats and fructose. It's interesting as to
>>>>>>> why
>>>>
>>>>>>> trans fats were added into foods, and it's something that
>>>>>>> shouldn't have ever happened.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:26 PM
>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir! I don't believe saturated fat
>>>>>>> is the problem in our food at all! At least unless you eat it in
>
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>
>>>>>>> large amounts--but that's true of almost any component. I'd
>>>>>>> rather eat the real food, not the food manufacturers have screwed
>
>>>>>>> around with! A book I'm currently reading is convincing me that
>>>>>>> the problem
>>>>>
>>>>>>> with increased diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, and
>>>>>>> living on earth is fructose. I
>>>>>> know
>>>>>
>>>>>>> that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier and
>
>>>>>>> healthier, and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which
>>>>>>> should never have been in our food!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sandi
>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sandi:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis
>>>>>>>> withover
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link between
>
>>>>>>>> saturated fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target
>>>>>>>> with
>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> consequences you cite below.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would
>
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to admit. (grin)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing!
>
>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the
>
>>>>>>>> fat
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't
>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> worry about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a day!
>>>>>>>> We're
>>
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> longer touting low-fat (I never did!), and people are finding
>>>>>>>> themselves much less hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more
>>>>>>>> fat.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without
>>>>>>>> limit!
>>
>>>>>>>> Mike is absolutely correct--the issue is portion size and--in
>>>>>>>> the
>>
>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of fat--what have they replaced the fat with? Generally,
>>>>>>>> diabetics
>>>>
>>>>>>>> are better off eating
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because
>
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> are lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sandi
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's
>
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> awful lot of preachiness and precious little actual long-term
>>>>>>>>> evidence in much of the medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd
>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for some refried beans
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to
>>>>>>>>> popular belief.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to
>>>>>>>>> say with the
>>>>>>>>> bible: prove me now herewith!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom
>>>>>>>>> diabetic
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to
>
>>>>>>>>> represent all of you! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>> On
>>
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you
>
>>>>>>>>> add
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> meat back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually
>>>>>>>>> use ground turkey around here.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during
>>>>>>>>> pregnancy,
>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>> On
>>
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>>>>>>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta
>>>>>>>>> grain tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I
>>>>>>>>> am
>>
>>>>>>>>> trying
>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> get used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am
>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if
>>>>>>>>> anything
>>
>>>>>>>>> should happen while over there. I sure wouldn't want him to go
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pound. I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
>>>>>>>>> Glad
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you lost allot of your baby gain. Keep up the swell work.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I
>>>>>>>>>> told
>>
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>>>>>>>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise
>>> needs
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One,
>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are
>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for you
>>>>>>>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat
>>>>>>>>>> dairy,
>>>>>>>>> fresh
>>>>>>>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and
>>>>>>>>>> lima,
>>
>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is
>>>>>>>>>> so difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I
>>>>>>>>>> do allow
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't
>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>
>>>>>>>>>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever
>
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight,
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> cut
>>>>>>>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain
>>>>>>>>>> weight
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old
>>>>>>>>>> habits. Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more
>>>>>>>>>> constructive and productive when trying to lose weight and
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>
>>>>>>>>>> healthy living in general.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Baby, smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> dealing and
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough
>>>>>>>>>> finding
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh.
>>>>>>>>>> Somehow,
>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a
>>>>>>>>>> life-long struggle, grin.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm
>>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity
>>>>>>>>>> after
>>
>>>>>>>>>> meals.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low
>>>>>>>>>> blood
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of
>>>>>>>>>> exercise. Just another level to our daily life, sigh.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>>>>>>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty
>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience. This opinion is
>>>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of
>>>>>>>>>>> drug is
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach
>
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases. My sympathies. We've
>
>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this
>>>>>>>>>>> evening.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Had dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game
>>>>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I
>>>>>>>>>>> felt
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> so tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again. I
>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> have burning in the chest. I think this is from acid. Glad
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> those who can take it. I played the game now game is over.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> --Dar
>>>>>>>>>>> skype: dmgina23
>>>>>>>>>>> FB: dmgina
>>>>>>>>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>>>>>>>>> every saint has a past
>>>>>>>>>>> every sinner has a future
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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