[Diabetes-talk] why I don't test myself

Tue Sep 3 23:25:43 UTC 2013

I would assume you were on a quick-acting insulin like Novolog or
Humalog that's used either for meals and/or to more quickly bring highs
down.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of d m gina
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 4:08 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] why I don't test myself

I don't remember the name now, if it was said to me again I would know.
I am taking a 24 hour shot now before the day starts doing well with
that also. Been on it for six months now. The doctor is happy with that
one.

Original message:
> By shot, I assume you mean insulin? What kind did you try? Like many 
> medications, it can take time to figure out the right dosage for you. 
> As a type 1 insulin-dependent diabetic, I'm well familiar with insulin

> reactions, and they are scary. However, my understanding is that the 
> sooner type twos are placed on insulin, the better control they 
> experience. This is based on material I've read and not personal 
> experience (in terms of this specific discussion) but perhaps you can 
> try the shot again but do a lower dose. And you may want to test more 
> too if taking insulin to make sure you're not dropping, especially 
> after meals, exercise and bedtime.

> Weight loss can be difficult, and we all go through plateau periods 
> with weight loss. Don't stress about it because stress doesn't help 
> weight loss or glucose control for that matter. As long as you are 
> working at it, that's what counts. And that you've already loss weight

> is a great sign and means you are on your way.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 11:03 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] why I don't test myself

> Something I don't understand,
> how can one be a pre diabetic.
> Either you are a diabetic or you are not.
> I don't know how mine climbed in the seven range, where I do watch. It

> is near seven now, but was higher. I used to be in the six range. I am

> hoping to get there again. I have to say I am salad out, I just get 
> plain tired of salads all of the time. I also was told I need to get 
> more weight off by Janurary. I shared that I am getting a pound off a 
> week, where I wasn't going to go any faster.
> At no time I will refuse to take the shot I did to have my heart rate
> go so fast in the middle of the night, waking me from sleep. Shaking
so
> hard that I thought I was cold. Even with the blanket on. I see no
> reason to go to the hospital when I don't have to. Now maybe that was
to
> strong for the doctor to hear, where I take pride
> to make sure I don't have to go into the hospital.
> I am doing everything else the doctor has asked, except for the shot.
I
> am doing the half a cup of food, or a cup if I don't have to many
> carbs for that meal.
> My diabetic coordinator says I am doing well.
> We work closely together, that is something I am pleased about. My
> doctor is a diabetic, just because this shot works for him, it
> didn't work well for me.
> Just some thoughts.

> Original message:
>> A close friend was diagnosed as *prediabetic*, and she refuses to 
>> follow anything the doctor has recommended including taking a 
>> medication. Her A1-C was 6.0, which is great for diabetics but not so

>> much for non-diabetics, but she won't believe me. Go figure.

>> My brother-in-law was recently diagnosed with type 2, and after 
>> incorporating some exercise and better diet into his routine, his 
>> A1-C

>> has significantly dropped, but he's now thinking he can not test, or 
>> test very infrequently, as a result of the lower A1-C.

>> One of the reasons an A1-C gets better is because of frequent, 
>> consistent testing. It allows us and our doctors to track and catch 
>> trends in sugars and make necessary changes based on those trends. 
>> The

>> goal is to achieve a certain A1-C, but the testing is a part of 
>> continueing to have lower A1-C's, and without this tracking, it can 
>> be

>> difficult to know why sugars, and when, they are causing problems. 
>> The

>> A1-C gives an over-all idea of what sugars run in a three month time 
>> period, but it can't tell a doctor what trends are and where changes 
>> may need to happen. Daily testing, among diet and exercise, are what 
>> determine this.

>> And I should mention that we are all commenting on this topic not 
>> because we think we have the answers, or all of them, or are trying 
>> to

>> tell people how to live, but we are just concerned when we hear 
>> things

>> like someone not testing and want to help.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:25 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] why I don't test myself

>> Hey Gang:

>> Bern here!!  Everyone here has a valid point and even as for Julie:  
>> I

>> can see where you're going.  However, listen to everyone else here 
>> because you've got advice here from absolutely the BEST!  And I do 
>> mean the VERY BEST!!!  When I first read over your message Julie, I 
>> don't mind telling you, it sent chills up and down my spine for the 
>> very reasons Bridgit, Mike, and Veronica all raise here.  My other 
>> huge, huge gripe here is now people are coming up with this "pre" 
>> diabetes garbage. And, of course, my mother-in-law was just diagnosed

>> with... of course... "pre" diabetes.  Has anyone heard of being 
>> "half"

>> or "Pre"-pregnant??? Sure would like to find out who the first quack 
>> was that ever came up with this hogwash!  I'd like to hang 'em!  I'm 
>> with Mike here because, even at that point, diabetics need to be 
>> taught and practice frequent testing.  We diabetics all know we can't

>> be too cautious.

>> I'd be lying to all of you if I didn't admit that I've had my own 
>> testing woes.  But that's why I do test very, very often; maybe even 
>> moreso than I need to because I don't want to get out of practice. I 
>> too, feel that testing is vital!!

>> Have a great day everyone!!

>> Bern
>> On 9/2/13, Julie Kline <julie.kline at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Hello all,

>>> I don't mean to sound like I am gloating here, but I'd like to share

>>> my thoughts of the messages I have seen over the past few days. 
>>> Reading over these messages, this is exactly the reason why I don't 
>>> do

>>> testing for my own blood glucose anymore.  I have had nothing but 
>>> trouble with both talking meters and I'm sorry I spent the money on 
>>> either one.  Even having people from the diabetes centers we have 
>>> here

>>> watching me, I haven't been able to get enough blood to get enough 
>>> of

>>> a sample, while the meters at the diabetes center work just fine.  I

>>> feel that with a 20 point plus or minus
>> accuracy
>>> that seems to come with the talking meters, I'm not willing to
>> continually
>>> sit there and poke my fingers for the 20 minutes it takes to finally
>> get
>>> enough blood.  And yes, I have done the hot water thing, massaged 
>>> the

>>> finger, held it to the lancet on maximum setting, stayed hydrated, 
>>> the rubber band thing . but testing with a talking meter just hasn't
>> worked out
>>> for me, so I don't bother with it, and these messages just confirm 
>>> to
>> me
>>> why.  I still do whatever lab work or tests my doctor or diabetes
>> center
>>> ask
>>> me to do, and I stay on top of these tests every 3 months.  However,

>>> I found that I've lost enough weight now and that weight loss that 
>>> came from
>> eating
>>> better, combined with exercising an hour 5 days a week walking 4 
>>> miles
>> a
>>> session, and my medications, have given me 2 a1c readings of between

>>> 6
>> and
>>> 6.2.  When I first learned I had diabetes, I was 83 pounds heavier 
>>> and
>> had
>>> an a1c reading of 8.6.  I know that the approach I take won't work 
>>> for everybody, especially for people who have to take insulin.  But 
>>> for
>> myself,
>>> I have type 2 diabetes and am not at that point yet.  At least for
>> myself,
>>> it has been possible to turn things around and I'd be willing to
>> recommend
>>> exercise DVDs that I use and found helpful if anyone is interested. 
>>> I recognize, or at least people tell me, that diabetes is a 
>>> progressive illness.  I hope that when it does come my time where 
>>> things get
>> worse,
>>> that
>>> they will have perfected these meters more and maybe they can work
>> better
>>> with people who can't generate enough blood, but for now I have much
>> better
>>> use of my fingers for other things, like reading Braille.

>>> Just my thoughts on the whole thing.

>>> Julie

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