[Diabetes-talk] why I don't test myself

Robert Shelton rshelton1 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 4 02:11:04 UTC 2013


I believe the shot you had the issue with was either byeta or victosa.  My
sweety had similar issues with both drugs.  When they work, they work really
well, but the side effects can be a problem.

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m gina
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] why I don't test myself

No I was on humilog was able to get off of that.
I get the two names mixed up that I can take it in the morning.
Starts with an l.
Levimeer.
Something like that.
I have mornings when I am at 77 82 94 things like that.
This makes the doctor happy.

Original message:
> I would assume you were on a quick-acting insulin like Novolog or 
> Humalog that's used either for meals and/or to more quickly bring 
> highs down.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 4:08 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] why I don't test myself


> I don't remember the name now, if it was said to me again I would know.
> I am taking a 24 hour shot now before the day starts doing well with 
> that also. Been on it for six months now. The doctor is happy with 
> that one.

> Original message:
>> By shot, I assume you mean insulin? What kind did you try? Like many 
>> medications, it can take time to figure out the right dosage for you.
>> As a type 1 insulin-dependent diabetic, I'm well familiar with 
>> insulin

>> reactions, and they are scary. However, my understanding is that the 
>> sooner type twos are placed on insulin, the better control they 
>> experience. This is based on material I've read and not personal 
>> experience (in terms of this specific discussion) but perhaps you can 
>> try the shot again but do a lower dose. And you may want to test more 
>> too if taking insulin to make sure you're not dropping, especially 
>> after meals, exercise and bedtime.

>> Weight loss can be difficult, and we all go through plateau periods 
>> with weight loss. Don't stress about it because stress doesn't help 
>> weight loss or glucose control for that matter. As long as you are 
>> working at it, that's what counts. And that you've already loss 
>> weight

>> is a great sign and means you are on your way.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of d m gina
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 11:03 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] why I don't test myself


>> Something I don't understand,
>> how can one be a pre diabetic.
>> Either you are a diabetic or you are not.
>> I don't know how mine climbed in the seven range, where I do watch. 
>> It

>> is near seven now, but was higher. I used to be in the six range. I 
>> am

>> hoping to get there again. I have to say I am salad out, I just get 
>> plain tired of salads all of the time. I also was told I need to get 
>> more weight off by Janurary. I shared that I am getting a pound off a 
>> week, where I wasn't going to go any faster.
>> At no time I will refuse to take the shot I did to have my heart rate 
>> go so fast in the middle of the night, waking me from sleep. Shaking
> so
>> hard that I thought I was cold. Even with the blanket on. I see no 
>> reason to go to the hospital when I don't have to. Now maybe that was
> to
>> strong for the doctor to hear, where I take pride to make sure I 
>> don't have to go into the hospital.
>> I am doing everything else the doctor has asked, except for the shot.
> I
>> am doing the half a cup of food, or a cup if I don't have to many 
>> carbs for that meal.
>> My diabetic coordinator says I am doing well.
>> We work closely together, that is something I am pleased about. My 
>> doctor is a diabetic, just because this shot works for him, it didn't 
>> work well for me.
>> Just some thoughts.

>> Original message:
>>> A close friend was diagnosed as *prediabetic*, and she refuses to 
>>> follow anything the doctor has recommended including taking a 
>>> medication. Her A1-C was 6.0, which is great for diabetics but not 
>>> so

>>> much for non-diabetics, but she won't believe me. Go figure.

>>> My brother-in-law was recently diagnosed with type 2, and after 
>>> incorporating some exercise and better diet into his routine, his 
>>> A1-C

>>> has significantly dropped, but he's now thinking he can not test, or 
>>> test very infrequently, as a result of the lower A1-C.

>>> One of the reasons an A1-C gets better is because of frequent, 
>>> consistent testing. It allows us and our doctors to track and catch 
>>> trends in sugars and make necessary changes based on those trends.
>>> The

>>> goal is to achieve a certain A1-C, but the testing is a part of 
>>> continueing to have lower A1-C's, and without this tracking, it can 
>>> be

>>> difficult to know why sugars, and when, they are causing problems.
>>> The

>>> A1-C gives an over-all idea of what sugars run in a three month time 
>>> period, but it can't tell a doctor what trends are and where changes 
>>> may need to happen. Daily testing, among diet and exercise, are what 
>>> determine this.

>>> And I should mention that we are all commenting on this topic not 
>>> because we think we have the answers, or all of them, or are trying 
>>> to

>>> tell people how to live, but we are just concerned when we hear 
>>> things

>>> like someone not testing and want to help.

>>> Bridgit

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:25 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] why I don't test myself


>>> Hey Gang:

>>> Bern here!!  Everyone here has a valid point and even as for Julie:
>>> I

>>> can see where you're going.  However, listen to everyone else here 
>>> because you've got advice here from absolutely the BEST!  And I do 
>>> mean the VERY BEST!!!  When I first read over your message Julie, I 
>>> don't mind telling you, it sent chills up and down my spine for the 
>>> very reasons Bridgit, Mike, and Veronica all raise here.  My other 
>>> huge, huge gripe here is now people are coming up with this "pre"
>>> diabetes garbage. And, of course, my mother-in-law was just 
>>> diagnosed

>>> with... of course... "pre" diabetes.  Has anyone heard of being 
>>> "half"

>>> or "Pre"-pregnant??? Sure would like to find out who the first quack 
>>> was that ever came up with this hogwash!  I'd like to hang 'em!  I'm 
>>> with Mike here because, even at that point, diabetics need to be 
>>> taught and practice frequent testing.  We diabetics all know we 
>>> can't

>>> be too cautious.

>>> I'd be lying to all of you if I didn't admit that I've had my own 
>>> testing woes.  But that's why I do test very, very often; maybe even 
>>> moreso than I need to because I don't want to get out of practice. I 
>>> too, feel that testing is vital!!

>>> Have a great day everyone!!

>>> Bern
>>> On 9/2/13, Julie Kline <julie.kline at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello all,

>>>> I don't mean to sound like I am gloating here, but I'd like to 
>>>> share

>>>> my thoughts of the messages I have seen over the past few days.
>>>> Reading over these messages, this is exactly the reason why I don't 
>>>> do

>>>> testing for my own blood glucose anymore.  I have had nothing but 
>>>> trouble with both talking meters and I'm sorry I spent the money on 
>>>> either one.  Even having people from the diabetes centers we have 
>>>> here

>>>> watching me, I haven't been able to get enough blood to get enough 
>>>> of

>>>> a sample, while the meters at the diabetes center work just fine.  
>>>> I

>>>> feel that with a 20 point plus or minus
>>> accuracy
>>>> that seems to come with the talking meters, I'm not willing to
>>> continually
>>>> sit there and poke my fingers for the 20 minutes it takes to 
>>>> finally
>>> get
>>>> enough blood.  And yes, I have done the hot water thing, massaged 
>>>> the

>>>> finger, held it to the lancet on maximum setting, stayed hydrated, 
>>>> the rubber band thing . but testing with a talking meter just 
>>>> hasn't
>>> worked out
>>>> for me, so I don't bother with it, and these messages just confirm 
>>>> to
>>> me
>>>> why.  I still do whatever lab work or tests my doctor or diabetes
>>> center
>>>> ask
>>>> me to do, and I stay on top of these tests every 3 months.  
>>>> However,

>>>> I found that I've lost enough weight now and that weight loss that 
>>>> came from
>>> eating
>>>> better, combined with exercising an hour 5 days a week walking 4 
>>>> miles
>>> a
>>>> session, and my medications, have given me 2 a1c readings of 
>>>> between

>>>> 6
>>> and
>>>> 6.2.  When I first learned I had diabetes, I was 83 pounds heavier 
>>>> and
>>> had
>>>> an a1c reading of 8.6.  I know that the approach I take won't work 
>>>> for everybody, especially for people who have to take insulin.  But 
>>>> for
>>> myself,
>>>> I have type 2 diabetes and am not at that point yet.  At least for
>>> myself,
>>>> it has been possible to turn things around and I'd be willing to
>>> recommend
>>>> exercise DVDs that I use and found helpful if anyone is interested.
>>>> I recognize, or at least people tell me, that diabetes is a 
>>>> progressive illness.  I hope that when it does come my time where 
>>>> things get
>>> worse,
>>>> that
>>>> they will have perfected these meters more and maybe they can work
>>> better
>>>> with people who can't generate enough blood, but for now I have 
>>>> much
>>> better
>>>> use of my fingers for other things, like reading Braille.

>>>> Just my thoughts on the whole thing.

>>>> Julie



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