[Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic

Fri Sep 13 02:00:15 UTC 2013

I didn't know it ever did require a five miles a day walk. 

CL

On Sep 12, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "Bill Lewis" <wlewis19 at cox.net> wrote:

> 
> Does the Atkins Plan still require a five miles a day walk?  Bill Lewis
> 
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> -----Original Message----- From: Sandi Ryan
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:33 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
> 
> The Atkins plan has changed some, and never was what it was purported to be.
> It was never a "no-carb" diet, and it was never true that you could eat
> great quantities of meat as long as you ate nothing else.  Now they have
> moderated quite a bit--they still recommend two weeks of meat and vegetables
> and not a lot else, but they start after that two weeks to add berries,
> nuts, etc.
> 
> I agree Atkins is a little uptight about bread and pasta and such--a little
> just isn't a bad thing--but in my opinion, they are on the right track.
> 
> Having said that, I don't like Atkins because of their emphasis on the bars,
> shakes, and meals they market.  I don't like their using sugar-alcohols and
> claiming those are better for you.  We don't have evidence of that, and they
> give some people really nasty diarrhea!  And I believe that whatever eating
> plan you follow, you should eat whole foods, not depend on processed, loaded
> foods.
> 
> I agree with you about why the portion size models came about, but I believe
> that if you really limit processed trash, you can have larger portions, feel
> totally satisfied, and neither gain weight nor raise your blood sugar!  What
> we need to get past (and probably never will) is dietitians thinking people
> need to eat a big variety of all foods, including chips, crackers, pretzels,
> etc.  I used to be that kind of dietitian.  Now I think we need to eat real
> foods, prepared the way we like them, in satisfying amounts, and ignore
> those food-like substances created for us by food manufacturers whose main
> intention is making money.  Bread is a fine food, by the way, especially
> whole-grain bread, in moderation.  Likewise pasta.
> 
> And as an adult, you choose what you eat, so you can also have chips and
> crackers and such.  But you have to pay a lot more attention to how you eat
> if you include those things.  And they are not in any way required for you
> to live!
> 
> One huge advantage to a low-carb diet is that it does wonders reducing
> cravings!  That's why I follow it.  I'm never hungry, and I do eat the
> occasional piece of pie or candy bar, but I don't even want one of those
> things most days.
> 
> If you find yourself wanting something treatish, my husband's and my newest
> thing is chocolate-peanut butter bark.  We melt 4.4 ounces of 70% dark
> chocolate with 2 oz. homemade peanut butter (or natural is fine) until it's
> smooth.  Then we drop it into twelve rounds on waxed paper on a tray.  You
> can either freeze or chill it till it's set, and we each eat three rounds in
> a day--so for the two of us, this recipe lasts two days.  It's not high in
> sugar, contains protein, and is very satisfying!  The peanut butter we make
> is super-crunchy--we grind half the peanuts and just break up the other
> half.  Yum!
> 
> Sandi
> 
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
> 
> 
>> Not that low-carb is out, or it doesn't have its merits. I'm referring
>> more to the Atkins subscribers. We also have to keep in mind that
>> individual bodies will react and respond to food and exercise
>> differently. I've never had huge problems controlling glucose levels or
>> maintaining weight regardless of what type of bread I eat. For many
>> though, bread is a huge problem. Pasta, which I'm actually not a big fan
>> of, is what is a kicker for me.
>> 
>> One problem with no-carb diets is that while you will experience rapid
>> weight loss, what can happen eventually is that you're not so much
>> losing fat as you're beginning to atrophied, which isn't healthy. But
>> millions of people do this, not fully understanding the science, and
>> they are probably just as, if not more, unhealthy as someone eating
>> carbs.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:26 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>> 
>> 
>> I disagree that low carb is out. In fact, mainstream endocrinologists
>> are beginning to think twice before jumping on the ADA complex carb
>> bandwagon. Read the book Fat Chance. It's on BARD.
>> Mike freeman
>> 
>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:59, Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, the medical community and FDA are always changing their minds
>>> about what is good and what isn't. For years we were told to limit
>>> caffeine consumption, but recently, I hear everywhere that massive
>>> amounts of caffeine are good for you. Okay, perhaps massive is an
>>> exaggeration, grin, but seriously, I saw one interview where multiple
>>> cups of coffee were being recommended. Just a couple of years ago the
>>> medical community would have admonished you for this.
>>> 
>>> So I agree with have to proceed withcaution when it comes to these
>>> reports and not jump on bandwagons. I recall a decade ago when
>>> low-carb diets were all the rage, and everyone was sure this was the
>>> way to lose weight and eat in general. Now we know that a balance diet
>> 
>>> including complex carbs is much better than low-carb or no-carb.
>>> 
>>> I think balance is key, and watching consumption amounts and what we
>>> eat does more than following current trends.
>>> 
>>> Bridgit
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:04 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't know. Frankly, I don't buy any of it. There are too many
>>> variables to draw such conclusions IMHO. Remember also that more fiber
>> 
>>> was supposed to lessen the risk of colon cancer but that also has been
>> 
>>> called into question. Mike
>>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 17:50, Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In meat? Okay, what about so-called organic meat? Like the stuff void
>>>> of man-made preservatives and additives and all that junk? Guess I
>>>> haven't heard this one.
>>>> 
>>>> Bridgit
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:48 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> He is probably worried about supposed colon cancer risk. Mike
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:59, Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Why avoid meat? I know too much protein can actually affect glucose
>>>>> levels, but usually protein is recommended because protein is what
>>>>> stabilizes blood sugars. I know protein can be found in food other
>>>>> than meat, but I've never heard you should avoid meat.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Bill Lewis
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:36 AM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Vicky, my name is Bill Lewis, and I want to share with you the
>>>>> importance of our following the basics of glucose control.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is an old and famous saying that "He who does not understand
>>>>> his
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