[Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic

Sandi Ryan sjryan2 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 13 14:17:25 UTC 2013 

She was a coauthor of one of their books a few years back--I think it was 
the diabetes book.  I suspect she still does.

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic


> You will probably want to check for sodium and other preservatives, too. 
> What a shame. Wonder if Dr. Vernon still works with them.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 12, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "Sandi Ryan" <sjryan2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh yes--more than ever!  I was subscribed to their newsletter for about 
>> two years, but cancelled it, because the main issue discussed was buying 
>> their bars and shakes, getting coupons to buy them cheaper, and trying 
>> their new meals.  Actually, I may well try the meals sometime.  But I'll 
>> check for sugar alcohols before I do!
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>
>>
>>> Early on they didn't do the sugar alcohols either. I had some friends 
>>> who did not like that aspect of Atkins. Do they still sell that stuff as 
>>> OK?
>>>
>>> CL
>>>
>>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:33 PM, "Sandi Ryan" <sjryan2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Atkins plan has changed some, and never was what it was purported 
>>>> to be. It was never a "no-carb" diet, and it was never true that you 
>>>> could eat great quantities of meat as long as you ate nothing else. 
>>>> Now they have moderated quite a bit--they still recommend two weeks of 
>>>> meat and vegetables and not a lot else, but they start after that two 
>>>> weeks to add berries, nuts, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I agree Atkins is a little uptight about bread and pasta and such--a 
>>>> little just isn't a bad thing--but in my opinion, they are on the right 
>>>> track.
>>>>
>>>> Having said that, I don't like Atkins because of their emphasis on the 
>>>> bars, shakes, and meals they market.  I don't like their using 
>>>> sugar-alcohols and claiming those are better for you.  We don't have 
>>>> evidence of that, and they give some people really nasty diarrhea!  And 
>>>> I believe that whatever eating plan you follow, you should eat whole 
>>>> foods, not depend on processed, loaded foods.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you about why the portion size models came about, but I 
>>>> believe that if you really limit processed trash, you can have larger 
>>>> portions, feel totally satisfied, and neither gain weight nor raise 
>>>> your blood sugar!  What we need to get past (and probably never will) 
>>>> is dietitians thinking people need to eat a big variety of all foods, 
>>>> including chips, crackers, pretzels, etc.  I used to be that kind of 
>>>> dietitian.  Now I think we need to eat real foods, prepared the way we 
>>>> like them, in satisfying amounts, and ignore those food-like substances 
>>>> created for us by food manufacturers whose main intention is making 
>>>> money.  Bread is a fine food, by the way, especially whole-grain bread, 
>>>> in moderation.  Likewise pasta.
>>>>
>>>> And as an adult, you choose what you eat, so you can also have chips 
>>>> and crackers and such.  But you have to pay a lot more attention to how 
>>>> you eat if you include those things.  And they are not in any way 
>>>> required for you to live!
>>>>
>>>> One huge advantage to a low-carb diet is that it does wonders reducing 
>>>> cravings!  That's why I follow it.  I'm never hungry, and I do eat the 
>>>> occasional piece of pie or candy bar, but I don't even want one of 
>>>> those things most days.
>>>>
>>>> If you find yourself wanting something treatish, my husband's and my 
>>>> newest thing is chocolate-peanut butter bark.  We melt 4.4 ounces of 
>>>> 70% dark chocolate with 2 oz. homemade peanut butter (or natural is 
>>>> fine) until it's smooth.  Then we drop it into twelve rounds on waxed 
>>>> paper on a tray.  You can either freeze or chill it till it's set, and 
>>>> we each eat three rounds in a day--so for the two of us, this recipe 
>>>> lasts two days. It's not high in sugar, contains protein, and is very 
>>>> satisfying!  The peanut butter we make is super-crunchy--we grind half 
>>>> the peanuts and just break up the other half.  Yum!
>>>>
>>>> Sandi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Not that low-carb is out, or it doesn't have its merits. I'm referring
>>>>> more to the Atkins subscribers. We also have to keep in mind that
>>>>> individual bodies will react and respond to food and exercise
>>>>> differently. I've never had huge problems controlling glucose levels 
>>>>> or
>>>>> maintaining weight regardless of what type of bread I eat. For many
>>>>> though, bread is a huge problem. Pasta, which I'm actually not a big 
>>>>> fan
>>>>> of, is what is a kicker for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> One problem with no-carb diets is that while you will experience rapid
>>>>> weight loss, what can happen eventually is that you're not so much
>>>>> losing fat as you're beginning to atrophied, which isn't healthy. But
>>>>> millions of people do this, not fully understanding the science, and
>>>>> they are probably just as, if not more, unhealthy as someone eating
>>>>> carbs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Mike Freeman
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:26 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I disagree that low carb is out. In fact, mainstream endocrinologists
>>>>> are beginning to think twice before jumping on the ADA complex carb
>>>>> bandwagon. Read the book Fat Chance. It's on BARD.
>>>>> Mike freeman
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:59, Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, the medical community and FDA are always changing their minds
>>>>>> about what is good and what isn't. For years we were told to limit
>>>>>> caffeine consumption, but recently, I hear everywhere that massive
>>>>>> amounts of caffeine are good for you. Okay, perhaps massive is an
>>>>>> exaggeration, grin, but seriously, I saw one interview where multiple
>>>>>> cups of coffee were being recommended. Just a couple of years ago the
>>>>>> medical community would have admonished you for this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I agree with have to proceed withcaution when it comes to these
>>>>>> reports and not jump on bandwagons. I recall a decade ago when
>>>>>> low-carb diets were all the rage, and everyone was sure this was the
>>>>>> way to lose weight and eat in general. Now we know that a balance 
>>>>>> diet
>>>>>
>>>>>> including complex carbs is much better than low-carb or no-carb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think balance is key, and watching consumption amounts and what we
>>>>>> eat does more than following current trends.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:04 PM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know. Frankly, I don't buy any of it. There are too many
>>>>>> variables to draw such conclusions IMHO. Remember also that more 
>>>>>> fiber
>>>>>
>>>>>> was supposed to lessen the risk of colon cancer but that also has 
>>>>>> been
>>>>>
>>>>>> called into question. Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 17:50, Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In meat? Okay, what about so-called organic meat? Like the stuff 
>>>>>>> void
>>>>>>> of man-made preservatives and additives and all that junk? Guess I
>>>>>>> haven't heard this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:48 PM
>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He is probably worried about supposed colon cancer risk. Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:59, Bridgit Pollpeter 
>>>>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why avoid meat? I know too much protein can actually affect glucose
>>>>>>>> levels, but usually protein is recommended because protein is what
>>>>>>>> stabilizes blood sugars. I know protein can be found in food other
>>>>>>>> than meat, but I've never heard you should avoid meat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bill Lewis
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:36 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Vicky, my name is Bill Lewis, and I want to share with you the
>>>>>>>> importance of our following the basics of glucose control.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is an old and famous saying that "He who does not understand
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>
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