[Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Sat Sep 14 02:03:15 UTC 2013


The crowd Dr. Oz appeals to is one that wants simple, clear, one- or
two-step answers and for whom medical jargon is downright confusing. Dar
falls into this category. Nothing wrong with that; it's just the way it is.
I expect that were I to throw, say, Gary Taubes' "Good Calories, Bad
Calories" at her, she'd be asleep in two pages.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic

You could read a book or speak with a doctor or nurse at whatever clinic
you attend. We don't need programs like Dr. Oz to find out what's
happening in the world of medicine.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of d m gina
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:17 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic


If I didn't watch the show, I wouldn't know what is out there, what is 
happening to folks who do different things.
I with lots of wisdum do my own thing, not worrying what anyone thinks 
about it, as long as my doctor and diabetic coordinator agree with. The
rest I read and learn, then if I want to take it on fine, if not 
that is fine with me to.
I have learned allot, there are some on this list I have followed all 
the way on their health what changes they have made and so forth. Dar
will do it Dar Dars way, and that is fine with me.

Original message:
> What do you agree with Dr. Oz about?  Every time I watch him he 
> recommends several dietary supplements, some kind of weird shake or 
> smoothie, or the latest seed that's found edible.  I've never found 
> anything Dr. Oz won't push on his program.  He even says one day that 
> he doesn't buy into a thing, then has someone on the show the next to 
> push it.  I believe he's a great doctor--but I certainly don't trust 
> him!  He's one of the media doctors pushing everything that seems to 
> be relevant based on one study.

> Sorry--I just think you need to know the truth.  Now you can agree 
> with him and make your own choices, but at least you know what he's 
> actually doing.

> Sandi

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dmgina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic


>> I agree with doctor Oz.
>> keep up the good work.

>> Dar
>> Every saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future


>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:

>>> But I love Dr. Ozzzzzz!!!!

>>> Sorry, just had to do this.
>>> CL

>>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 11:10 AM, "Sandi Ryan" <sjryan2 at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:

>>>> Exactly!  And when doctors and other health professionals are 
>>>> recommending this or that, they are often basing it on their best 
>>>> conjecture or on the results of one or a few studies, just as we do

>>>> when we read things and follow them on that basis.  And remember 
>>>> that, while the FDA's panel that approves drugs and foods is 
>>>> expert, they are not experts in everything.  As a speaker at a 
>>>> commencement at Harvard Medical School in the 80s said "You can 
>>>> leave here knowing that about 10% of what we taught you here is 
>>>> fact. The problem is, none of us knows which 10%."  Most people get

>>>> their beliefs from the media (including media doctors who interpret

>>>> study findings), and most media reports are based on what's been 
>>>> discovered in one study by one group of researchers, and touted as 
>>>> fact.  And many times, when further study shows the opposite, it is

>>>> ignored, or the public has come to believe so strongly in the first

>>>> study that no amount of evidence to the contrary can change minds.

>>>> Sandi

>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" 
>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:59 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic


>>>>> Well, the medical community and FDA are always changing their 
>>>>> minds about what is good and what isn't. For years we were told to

>>>>> limit caffeine consumption, but recently, I hear everywhere that 
>>>>> massive amounts of caffeine are good for you. Okay, perhaps 
>>>>> massive is an exaggeration, grin, but seriously, I saw one 
>>>>> interview where multiple cups of coffee were being recommended. 
>>>>> Just a couple of years ago the medical community would have 
>>>>> admonished you for this.

>>>>> So I agree with have to proceed withcaution when it comes to these

>>>>> reports and not jump on bandwagons. I recall a decade ago when 
>>>>> low-carb diets were all the rage, and everyone was sure this was 
>>>>> the way to lose weight and eat in general. Now we know that a 
>>>>> balance diet including complex carbs is much better than low-carb 
>>>>> or no-carb.

>>>>> I think balance is key, and watching consumption amounts and what 
>>>>> we eat does more than following current trends.

>>>>> Bridgit

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:04 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic


>>>>> I don't know. Frankly, I don't buy any of it. There are too many 
>>>>> variables to draw such conclusions IMHO. Remember also that more 
>>>>> fiber was supposed to lessen the risk of colon cancer but that 
>>>>> also has been called into question. Mike

>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 17:50, Bridgit Pollpeter 
>>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> In meat? Okay, what about so-called organic meat? Like the stuff 
>>>>>> void of man-made preservatives and additives and all that junk? 
>>>>>> Guess I haven't heard this one.

>>>>>> Bridgit

>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:48 PM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic


>>>>>> He is probably worried about supposed colon cancer risk. Mike

>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:59, Bridgit Pollpeter 
>>>>>> <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> Why avoid meat? I know too much protein can actually affect 
>>>>>>> glucose levels, but usually protein is recommended because 
>>>>>>> protein is what stabilizes blood sugars. I know protein can be 
>>>>>>> found in food other than meat, but I've never heard you should 
>>>>>>> avoid meat.

>>>>>>> Bridgit

>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On

>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bill Lewis
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:36 AM
>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic



>>>>>>> Hi Vicky, my name is Bill Lewis, and I want to share with you 
>>>>>>> the importance of our following the basics of glucose control.

>>>>>>> There is an old and famous saying that "He who does not 
>>>>>>> understand his

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