[Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...

[Alan Lemly]

And since the companies that make meters get their continuing revenue stream
from selling test strips, don't expect a meter without consumables from a
profit-making manufacturer.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 3:53 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...

With respect, I think we're forgetting about a simple maxim:

IF IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS.

I believe the Ariva meter uses alternate-site testing and although I've
spoken with one CDE who maintains that blind persons can easily learn to do
alternate-site testing, I have *never* encountered an actual blind person
who had much success with it. The very reason alternate-site testing appeals
to some is its greatest drawback for the blind: you can't easily feel where
you lanced yourself.

Moreover, as Dotty has said, what we may be encountering here is the type of
meter with strips in a cartridge. While these might be advantageous for
some, I know of *no* fully-accessible meter that uses them and I also have
the sneaking suspicion that such strips cost more than the run-of-the-mill
variety.

Also, as I said the other day, there are sound chemical reasons why a truly
stripless meter that samples blood would be hard to make. And although there
has been plenty of hype about using systems that do not sample blood, I
still haven't seen one that worked well enough to come to market.

Finally, if such a system truly existed and wasn't just ad hype, don't you
suppose that either we or ACBDA or the American Foundation for the Blind or
David Mendosa or Diabetes forecast or Diabetes Self-management Quarterly or
Health Central would have trumpeted such a system to the skies?

I don't fault those who hope; I worry about those who suspend the faculty of
critical thinking.

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
COLLEEN ROTH
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:29 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...

 Hello Eileen,
I think that the ad says that Ariva serves people with Medicare.
I didn't quite get the part about sticking your fingers. I thought maybe you
stuck another part of your body.
It does say the meter talks.
Since I currently get very little blood, if any at all, I am not able to
test.
If Ariva does indeed work without blood or with just enough blood that you
do not have to use a strip this might be heaven-sent for me.
I have a friend who is a nurse who also has trouble getting enough blood for
a reading from me.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: eileen scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...

>
>
> All I know is what I heard on the commercial.  I suspect it does not 
> use blood either, but am not certain.  I'm tempted to make a switch, 
> but don't want to go from one inaccurate meter to another that could 
> possibly be even worse.  And then too don't want to be stuck in a 
> situation where I have to use my supplies before I'd be able to go 
> back if it turned out it wasn't the meter for me.
> 
> Again, it is Ariva that has had the ads which I've heard a few times.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Freeman
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:12 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> 
> I would be interested to learn of such a device but don't quite see 
> how it would work  at least if it uses blood samples. Current 
> technology uses chemical reactions to produce an electrical voltage 
> which is measured and, I presume, its wave-form analyzed. This would 
> mean that the sampling device would have to be cleaned between each 
> use, assuming it could be used multiple times which I can't imagine 
> since one can't reverse the chemical reaction which leads to the voltage.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of eileen scrivani
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 4:50 PM
> To: NFB Diabetes Talk
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone on this list know anything about a talking strippless 
> meter for testing BG's?  I have recently heard advertizements on TV 
> from Ariva Medical promoting a "talking" meter that does not use 
> strips.  I know these types of things have in the past not been 
> accurate, but it is tempting and I'm sick of the two meters out there 
> that claim "accessibility."  So, even if the stripless meter wasn't 
> fully accessible, at this point I'm used to that anyway.
> 
> Thanks for any input from those who know for a fact and have used the
meter.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> 
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