[Diabetes-talk] glucagon

Mon Sep 7 14:15:12 UTC 2015

And glucagon kits also have directions on the case for sighted people. Obviously this doesn't help blind people, but for anyone sighted potentially using it, there are directions printed right on the case. And I think it has diagram drawings too.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-talk
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:51 PM
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Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] glucagon

Eileen, I agree with you. This is why it would be really cool if we could find out about the different brands because one might be way easier than another. I totally believe your description, not to mention, doing it during a calm test time sure isn't the same as doing it when someone you love is unconscious. So it really does have to be easy and comfortable for the spouse or whomever. I just got lucky in that the kit I had was easy, that's all. Since I have never needed to use the stuff, I stopped getting it and for all I know, the next kit I'd get might not be so easy to use. So I'll take this opportunity to say,  ummm, crossing my paws that I don't lose my awareness of hypos and send out my support to those who get surprised by severe lows. But my RA drug is mixed up the same way and it sure is easy so it would seem that these manufacturers sure could make a glucagon kit that would be easy to administer by another designated person. As I said yesterday, after all, if it's easier for us, it's easier for sighted people who are not comfortable either. Look at what they've done for defib in public; voice guidance and everything. Glucagon is just as life saving, right? 
So I am in complete agreement with you on this one. <grin> Veronica

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From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-talk
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 7:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] glucagon

Veronica, 

You and I have been diabetic a long, long time and a lot more experienced in handling syringes and techniques of inserting a needle into a vial.  My husband is not a diabetic and really has had very little experience doing it.  

I do not expect him to be able to do it if there isn’t a comfort level or if he finds it too difficult.  Each person is different and there are different strokes for different folks.  My sighted sister-in-law happened to be here the day we tried the experiment and even she had a difficult time of it.  It is not an easy task for those who are un-used to doing it.  If there were opportunities to practice with it maybe, but it would get expensive just trashing kit after kit to try and get it working.  

Luckily I have never passed out due to a low and have always been able to get myself to juice or food when needed.

Eileen

From: Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-talk
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 7:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] glucagon

Wow! Eileen! Maybe we're going to have to start paying attention to brands of kits to see which ones are easier to use. The one I had wasn't hard to manipulate. As for getting the syringe into the vial, I just pressed the needle somewhere on the rubber and in she went. I never even thought of using a guide. Too bad I can't remember the brand I had though. Hmmm, can't even remember the last time I had one around. Got tired of paying for them and not using them. So it's a good thing we can add up the variety of experiences here for any future use. <grin> Veronica

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From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-talk
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 4:43 PM
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Cc: Eileen Scrivani
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] glucagon

Rachael, 

I am not sure if you could or could not do an injection if the need arose.  

I had a glucogen kit in the house, stored in the frig, and it expired last year. The plan was that if I ever needed it, my husband who is also totally blind, would use it on me. Since they are gotten by prescription and they don’t give out samples of them for trial/practice my husband never got to try it out.  So when my kit expired, we took it out and tried running through filling the syringe.  It was not easy for him.  As I recall there were 2 main problems.

First there was inserting the needle into the rubber stopper on the vial.  This was even with the old needle guides I have and used to use on my insulin vial.  They did not work and if I’m remembering correctly its because the vial was a slightly different size from the insulin vials I used them on.

Second, the plunger on the syringe was quite difficult to push down.  I seem to recall it taking a lot of force.  I’m not sure if this is because the kit got old, but it was not easy. 

I did get a fresh kit, but told my husband to just call 911 as fast as possible and give the kit to them if the need should ever arise.

Now because we could not work it out doesn’t mean you would not be able to.  Maybe you would have better luck or technique if you had to do it.  And, the way you mix is by injecting the solution that is pre-loaded in the syringe into the vial and then re-drawing it back up into the syringe.

Good luck.

Eileen

From: Rachel Krieg via Diabetes-talk
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 6:53 PM
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Cc: Rachel Krieg
Subject: [Diabetes-talk] glucagon

Hi, all.

My husband Jeremy's endo wanted my family since they live in the area to be able to learn to administer glucagon in the event he went low. However, they refused. As someone who is totally blind, with no light perception, is it possible for me to administer it to him? I know the type she wanted him to use you had to mix it, and that could be difficult for someone who has no vision whatsoever. Usually, if he drops and I can't get anything into him, I wind up calling the paramedics which in this town wind up being the fire department, unless they deem it necessary to transport him to the hospital in which case they send an ambulance.

Rachel and Lady the lovable lab

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