[Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate site testing

d m gina dmgina at samobile.net
Thu Feb 25 04:42:23 UTC 2016 

Would you share how many strips you can get and the price?
Thanks, I still use the prodigy.
We have encreased insulin.
I am exercising on the treadmil for an hour and walking a mile with my 
dog when there is no snow and ice.
Thanks,

Original message:
> If I were denied strips, I'd tell whomever denied me to go to hell! In 
> fact, I've found the best deal for Prodigy Autocode strips (work on the 
> Prodigy Voice also) on Amazon. So although my insurance covers strips 
> and has never asked me for a log, I've started buying them direct from Amazon.

> Mike


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:13 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Cc: Eileen Scrivani
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate site testing

> Mike,

> I would not like to see erroneous readings deleted out of meter memory, 
> since even those mistaken readings add into the total number of times 
> per day I’ve tested.  If I have to use extra strips to get a reading 
> which I believe, then I want to show that I have truthfully tested that 
> number of times in a day.

> Every time I call for a re-order of supplies, I am asked how many tests 
> per day I do and the number of strips I have left in my on-hand supply. 
> The way the system currently works, I would not be surprised should the 
> time come when doctors need to be able to read the memory for the 
> purpose of determining the strip counts.  Perhaps a better way than 
> deleting would be a marker to indicate there was a miss-read, that way 
> the reading would not get calculated into the averages and there would 
> still be an accounting of the numbers used.

> Eileen

> From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Mike Freeman
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate site testing

> Veronica:

> Amen multiple times over erroneous readings staying in the meters. Had 
> its manufacturer ever completed the 510(k) application with the FDA so 
> that its meter could be marketed here, the SensoCardPlus allowed 
> deleting of readings. But when I've talked to meter manufacturers, they 
> seemed extraordinarily resistant to patients having control over which 
> readings were kept, maintaining that this would lead to "patient 
> noncompliance". That is, they presumed that patients would delete 
> readings that weren't in their target bg ranges. To which I responded: 
> "Who cares? Patients would only be hurting themselves by falsifying or 
> leaving out valid but "bad" readings. It isn't the responsibility of 
> meter manufacturers to see that patients do what they're supposed to!" 
> Of course, my statement ended up floating like a lead balloon!
> Which is why I only submit a written log.

> Mike Freeman


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:32 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Veronica Elsea
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate site testing

> Wow! You're lucky Bridgit. I've been diabetic for almost 28 years now 
> and my fingers are a mess. I have been blind the entire time so have 
> done way more sticks requiring more blood than I would have sighted. 
> But for whatever reason, my fingers have these giant callouses on the 
> sides that are now really interfering with my ability to test as often 
> as I'd like. This is one of the reason I'd really like getting the CGM 
> so I could at least watch patterns and have some idea. I just haven't 
> yet made the time to sit down and lie, making up a fake log for a month.
> And I did get crazy readings going both directions with the Prodigy. 
> Most of the time I do know if I'm really high or low, but not always. 
> Heck, given the current state of my fingers, if I thought I always knew 
> my reading by intuition, I wouldn't even think of using a meter. Alas, 
> that's not the case. What I really dislike about all meters that do a 
> test and then say, oh wait, not enough blood is that you now have 
> spurious readings in that log for good. I've had a couple of endos who 
> just never seemed to grasp that they were really not enough blood and 
> kept wanting to adjust my insulin dosages based on those way low 
> readings, for instance. That's why I stay with the FreeStyle Lite even 
> though it's a bit of a pain to connect it with a computer to read it. 
> It doesn't start the test until it verifies that the strip is full. So 
> while the final reading has the same 20 per cent variation that all 
> meters have, at least I don't fill up the memory with junk readings. 
> One would think more companies would be working like this in 2016.

> Veronica


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:33 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate site testing

> A few years ago, my doctor suggested I consider alternate site testing 
> just because I've been pricking my fingers for so long. Actually, my 
> fingers are good. No loss of sensitivity because of poking, and no 
> permanent calluses, (I moisturize frequently and alternate between all 
> fingers and all over the
> fingers) but nonetheless, they thought it worth considering. When I was 
> a kid and sighted, they made the same suggestion so I could alternate 
> where I test, similar to how you alternate where you inject insulin, 
> but I never liked it. I currently use a Prodigy Voice, and my nurse 
> educator, who has been amazing and has become a family friend in the 
> last 13 years since I've known her, said alternate testing should work 
> fine. I just don't like the idea of testing elsewhere than my fingers. 
> The best I have done is start testing with my thumbs in the last 8 
> years or so. I've been diabetic for 30 years now, and my fingers are 
> still going strong, grin.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Paul Magill via Diabetes-talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:31 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate site testing

> Hi Daniel,

> The manual I sent has a brief section on alternate testing, and to me 
> at least, it suggests that this is not practical for a blind person.

> Most glucose meters don't have this feature anyway.

> Regards,
> Paul from Australia


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Mike Freeman via Diabetes-talk

> Right. I once encountered a certified diabetes educator who swore blind 
> persons could do alternate site testing. But I've never met one. The 
> very thing which makes some folks like alternate site testing -- they 
> can't feel the stick -- is the very thing that throws blind persons for 
> a loop. Also, the readings aren't quite as up-to-date as fingerstick readings.

> Mike


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