[Diabetes-talk] Different Diet and congratulations to Bridget!

Joy Stigile joystigile at gmail.com
Wed Oct 26 03:22:17 UTC 2016


Hi Bridget,
Congratulations!  I wish you all the best!  You will have to keep all of us
informed as you get closer to your due date on how you are feeling.  Then
let us know what the size and name is of your new baby.

Warmly, Joy


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:19 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet

Yes, baby number 2 due in February. A little unexpected surprise for our
family, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 3:30 PM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet

Bridget, did I hear you say you were pregnant??? Good for you!!! Blessings
to you and your family!! This is so exciting!! I'm happy for you!!

Bern.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bridgit,
> 
> I didn't think it was. You had said that before. And my comments were 
> not intended as a direct response to anything you've said, just to 
> provide the science that tells people there's no good reason to cut 
> out whole food groups. I believe I also said (and meant) that we are 
> adults and will do what we'll do. I have, myself, said I followed 
> Atkins for a time and found a bit of benefit. At one of our DAN 
> meetings I talked about ways to fit in the diet you like best.
> 
> Forgive my dietitian-ness. I'm afraid it's built in.
> 
> I'll butt out of this discussion now, having added what I thought 
> needed to be said for everyone's benefit.
> 
> Sandi
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 1:25 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
> 
> Sandy,
> 
> My comment was not an argument for or against Paleo or any other diet. 
> Just a mere observation made from both research and what I know of 
> most people. I don't disagree with you, but if going to have a 
> discussion on food and diet, we all need to be honest and consider 
> every
angle.
> 
> I mostly started Paleo because I could not drop the remaining 10 
> pounds from my pregnancy. I found it to help me take off the extra few 
> pounds in addition to intensifying my exercise program. Now I'm 
> pregnant again, so I'm not so hard-core about sticking to Paleo or 
> exercising as frequently as I was before. But even before doing Paleo, 
> I was a pretty healthy eater, at least in terms of the type of food I 
> eat. In all honesty, I problem do not eat enough calories in a day as 
> I should, but when my schedule gets busy, I tend to eat less.
> Fortunately for me, I'm not a binger and am used to ignoring hunger, 
> so I don't typically end up eating more later. I keep to 3 meals, but 
> often small things I can eat quickly, like turkey wraps or an apple 
> and cheese or a Greek yogurt. I don't always take the time to prepare 
> a full meal. But when I did Paleo, I did find that cutting out wheat 
> and grains for me helped with a lot of things, including glucose 
> control. My endo has been very encouraging of Paleo as well. So once I 
> have this baby, I plan to try it more intensively again, though like I
already have said, I do keep dairy in and specifically hummus, which is made
from legumes.
> 
> I'm not a pusher of medication for anything unless absolutely 
> necessary. I do take a vitamin C yearly, and obviously, now pregnant, 
> I take a daily vitamin, though it's just a kids vitamin on top of 
> folic
acid 3 times a day.
> But I do not think supplementing pills can make up for eating whole, 
> fresh foods. I would never encourage anyone to do this, especially if 
> they think they are getting the exact same nutrition.
> 
> I know vegans who are super healthy. Their yearly doctor visits show 
> they are in great shape, lacking nothing. They do a vegan diet in the 
> proper way, making sure to eat as balanced of a diet as possible on a 
> vegan diet. I also know people who don't cut anything out but keep to 
> a low-carb diet and are in great health too. It's all about what works 
> for you, and if you can maintain a lifestyle. It's about personal 
> choices in addition to health. At the end of the day, if you are in 
> good health, and something works, why change?
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:18 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
> 
> That isn't actually true, Bridgit. It has been said over and over, but 
> if an American eats healthy, we get enough calories and have enough 
> food readily available (unless we live in "food deserts or are very
> poor") to get all the nutrients we need. Because of all the food 
> available to us, we often eat too much or choose foods that aren't as 
> healthy as they might be, so there may be people who need a standard 
> multi-vitamin. Generally, though, we are not malnourished, but 
> overnourished. And many of our manufactured foods have nutrients added 
> (enriched grains in bread, crackers, cereals, pretzels,
> etc.) or are "fortified" with them (Vitamin D in milk products). The 
> reason for the myth that our diets are lousy and need supplementing 
> comes from the production of millions of bottles of many supplements 
> developed by manufacturers ... to make them rich! When a company 
> creates a product, the first thing they do is develop a market for 
> that product, not with the goal of making Americans healthier, but 
> with the goal of making their pockets bulge. And because of the way 
> the laws are currently written, there are no regulations on 
> supplements as there are on medications. So a person can read on the 
> Internet "I have found that taking 1,000 times the recommended dose of 
> this supplement makes me feel young and alive," go to the drugstore 
> and buy that supplement, and be on their way. That's not exactly what
we're talking about here with multivitamins and such, but it can grow to
that.
> 
> I guess my biggest question about most diets that are highly 
> restrictive and cut out whole food groups is why? What does one gain 
> by doing that? I have the same question about "health foods" that are 
> manufactured to be low in fat, or sometimes, low in sugar. Why? It 
> makes so much more sense to eat the foods (all the foods) you love and 
> eat them in smaller portions than to buy manufactured foods and 
> supplements to make up for the foods you cut out. In the case of the 
> Paleo diet, you're cuttting out two classes of foods, whole grains and 
> legumes, that are packed with nutrition and of which small amounts 
> could provide a fair amount of what you eat. If you don't like those 
> foods, certainly there are other foods that can provide those 
> nutrients--beans (legumes) are an excellent meat equivalent--but if 
> you eat both meat and legumes, you get more variety and thus more 
> nutrition. The reason for specifying whole grains is that they have 
> their natural nutrients, instead of having those nutrients milled out 
> then
added back as synthetics.
> 
> The exceptions to my supplement rant are: While you are pregnant or 
> nursing you need a multivitamin specific to a pregnant woman. That's 
> because you are not only feeding yourself but your fetus, and it would 
> be hard to eat enough for both of you. During this time, you also need
more calories.
> 
> People who do not get sun frequently enough (10-15 minutes several 
> days a
> week) and/or don't use dairy products, need Vitamin D. And likely 
> calcium, since as I said, there is some calcium in veggies, but not 
> enough. And calcium and Vitamin D work together, so it's good to 
> supplement them that way.
> 
> And if your diet is really horrible--no veggies or fruits, mostly 
> lower-quality foods (fast-food every day), take a multivitamin. It 
> can't hurt and might help. The problem is, it won't make your diet 
> better, which is the only thing that can make you truly healthier.
> 
> So there's the science. 
> Does it change anything? It doesn't have to. We act mostly on our 
> beliefs, which may be valid or not, but they are ours. I have things I 
> do because I believe them, too, even knowing they're not true. But 
> thanks for indulging me to tell the truth about eating and especially, 
> about supplements. Some work, most don't, and what you get in that 
> bottle often isn't what you expect, because of the complete lack of 
> regulation. In fresh foods, you can know pretty much what you're 
> getting, and there is even more regulation of foods than of 
> supplements, so you can be surer of foods than supplements anyway.
> 
> Now you can choose what to eat and what to supplement or skip, and you 
> can do it knowing the science behind the truth.
> 
> Sandi
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:06 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
> 
> Very few people, even those who eat healthy, get the adequate amount 
> of nutrition in a day. Most of us should probably be on daily vitamins 
> in order to receive proper nutrition, smile.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
> 
> There is some calcium in some of the vegetables. Probably not enough, 
> though. I haven't read about Paleo lately, but some of the diets 
> recommend taking a multivitamin each day that contains 100-150 percent 
> of each vitamin's RDA, and taking a calcium supplement with Vitamin D 
> (cholecalciferol, not ergocalciferol) to make sure you get all the 
> nutrients you need.
> 
> Sandi
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:36 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
> 
> Not sure, but it would be the same for someone doing vegan, or if you 
> have allergies to dairy.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 3:34 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
> 
> How is this diet for calcium. My inclusion of Greek yogurt and cheese 
> has stopped my rheumatologist from threatening me with calcium pills.
> Now I'll have to hit Google. <grin> Thanks for the info.
> Veronica
> 
> 
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
> Guide
Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:58 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
> 
> Fortunately for me, I'm not a coffee drinker, grin.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 11:37 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
> 
> Give up coffee?  That's an essential food, especially if it comes from 
> Starbucks or Tim Horton's, the coffee shop up here in northern Maine.
LOL.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 12:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
> 
> Bern,
> 
> If you Google Paleo diet, a ton pops up.
> 
> Basically, you cut out grains, wheat, dairy, refined sugar, legumes, 
> and technically you eat all organic. People do modified versions of 
> Paleo, like some still include dairy, or some will still have wheat 
> and grains at times, though you should limit them even on a modified 
> version. A majority of carbs will come from fruit and some veggies 
> like sweet potatoes. You should avoid or sparingly use regular 
> potatoes. Typically you also cut out soda and coffe and tea unless 
> herbal, though, again, if doing modified version, you can have these 
> things from time-to-time. And if you can't do organic for everything,
that's okay.
> 
> It's not as difficult to implement as you think. I found it 
> overwhelming at first, as I researched it, but once I started, it was 
> not
so difficult.
> 
> I do a modified version as I still do Greek yogurt at times and 
> hummus, which is made from legumes.
> 
> An example of my daily meals may be 2 eggs cooked in coconut oil and a 
> banana with turkey sausage for breakfast. For lunch, grilled chicken 
> with a dry rub, lettuce salad with olive oil and red vinegar home-made 
> dressing and veggie chips. Dinner may be more grilled meat or a 
> lettuce wrap sandwhich, carrot fries baked in coconut oil and another 
> salad. Snacks are nuts and seeds, fruit and veggies, Larabars, etc. A 
> lot
of Paleo recipes are online.
> My picky son and husband enjoy a lot of the recipes I have found.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:52 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
> 
> Good Evening Everyone:
> 
> Sandi and Veronica, I'm with you both.  I would say with whatever I 
> eat, I seem to operate similarly with the two of you.  However, I do 
> have a niece who is on the Paleo thing.  For what I've heard, I find 
> interesting.  I'd actually like to learn more if someone could explain 
> to me.  My niece tried to send me a link but I couldn't seem to pull 
> it up
for whatever reason.
> Brigit, Maybe you and I can topuch base sometime.  I'd really like to
learn.
> 
> Have a wonderful, restful evening  Bill and I are going to retire for 
> the evening very soon here.
> 
> Bern
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/23/16, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> What really sparked some of my comments was attending an event a 
>> couple of weeks ago where box lunches were provided. A woman was 
>> attending who was prescribed this diet called whole foods plant based 
>> diet. And I don't mean the grocery store. <grin> But there was 
>> nothing
> there that she could eat.
>> She managed to take a sandwich apart and munch a piece of turkey. I 
>> suppose once one has reached a certain level of commitment, perhaps 
>> the feeling of deprivation isn't so strong but I just found it hard 
>> to picure on a daily basis for me. But I've been around long enough 
>> never to say never! <grin> Veronica
>> 
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>> Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:10 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>> 
>> I agree about dieting. I don't believe in dieting. I do believe in 
>> making adjustments to lifestyle and learning to consistently work 
>> with a particular mealplan, whatever that may be for any given 
>> person. In all things, I think balance is key.
>> 
>> I don't know about research, but from personal experience, as a type 
>> one diabetic who is insulin dependent, when I tried Atkins, I found 
>> my blood sugars actually were all over the place, particularly 
>> running higher. I had to incorporate some form of carbs for a balance 
>> to my glucose levels. Paleo does not cut out all carbs, just wheat 
>> and grains, so this has worked very well for me. Again, doesn't mean 
>> what works for me will for someone else, but this has been my 
>> personal experience. And again, I have no actual medical research to 
>> back anything up on no-carbs, but this was what happened for me.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:08 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>> 
>> What the research really shows is that nearly any eating pattern you 
>> can maintain can work for you.
>> 
>> And again, giving up whole groups of food isn't conducive in the 
>> long-term to stable eating and good health. A lot of the research 
>> around vegetarian diets is based on hypotheses about how much better 
>> they are for the environment.
>> 
>> Having said that, we are adults here, and one can choose to try 
>> nearly any diet, particularly as a well-controlled Type 2. I did 
>> Atkins for about two years. What I found was that the induction phase 
>> (to which I added nuts and berries from Day 1) helped me kick the 
>> truly meaningless products we tend to overeat--foods with lots of 
>> sugar and white flour (or other flour, for that matter), and 
>> processed foods like chips, crackers, cereals, etc.
>> 
>> But I found I'm not willing to skip sweets when they're the basis of 
>> a birthday party, for instance. I decided about 20 years ago that I 
>> do not diet. I eat the foods I truly want at a given meal or snack, 
>> in reasonable portions, and try to balance my eating over time--a 
>> week, say--rather than stick to an inflexible meal plan.
>> 
>> Occasionally, such as Thursday, I eat chips or crackers or something 
>> when I'm out. Thursday I had homemade corn chips with homemade salsa.
>> I think it was six or 7 chips and maybe 1/4 cup salsa. Very tasty, 
>> and not something I eat at home more than a time or two a year.
>> 
>> Try making every food available to yourself, picking those foods you 
>> really want to eat, working to balance your meals and snacks with 
>> foods you maybe don't crave but like to keep things healthy, and make 
>> feeding yourself so you're not hungry between times a goal. Remember 
>> that you can eat carbs--you just need to pay attention and not eat 
>> too many, and get enough protein and fat to keep your body satisfied.
>> 
>> The one thing I think is important for people using insulin is to be 
>> aware that you need to be careful about eating very low-carb, 
>> particularly if your body produces no insulin. That's a subject I'm 
>> less familiar with, since I was not a diabetes dietitian, and do not 
>> use insulin.
>> 
>> Balance is important. And remember these are general guidelines, not 
>> a prescription. If you need your personal diet adjusted or help with 
>> knowing exactly how to fit your eating into your lifestyle, please 
>> consult a currently practicing dietitian.
>> 
>> Sandi
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 7:23 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>> 
>> More and more research shows the positive effect of such diets, but 
>> again, if you truly don't have the discipline to follow and just 
>> really enjoy certain foods, it's better to stick to a mealplan you 
>> can consistently follow instead of starting and stopping another.
>> 
>> Personally, I like the Paleo mealplan. I started this this past 
>> winter and stuck with it until I became pregnant. I'm not majorly 
>> cheating on it, but once I have this baby, I plan to go back full on it.
>> Essentially, you cut out wheat, grains, dairy and refined sugars.
>> You're supposed to eat organic too, but I just do it as much as possible.
> Most my carbs come from fruit.
>> You can do modified versions of Paleo where you keep dairy or certain 
>> kind of grains. I've found cutting out wheat and grains to make a 
>> huge difference with my digestive system and blood sugars. I do have 
>> Greek yogurt from time-to-time too. Personally, I don't find this to 
>> be a super restrictive diet, nor that difficult to follow. But it can 
>> take time to adjust. It does require a little food prep for most 
>> meals, but it's not a major problem, in my opinion.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 7:06 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>> 
>> Here at our medical clinic, they are pushing this diet as an anti 
>> inflammatory diet. So if you go see a physiatrist for, say, neck 
>> pain, you get put into classes to learn this diet. I'm having a hard 
>> time quite buying it. I can see cutting back on things but total 
>> elimination? Not at my house.
>> <grin>
>> Veronica
>> 
>> 
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>> Guide Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of g melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:39 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: g melconian
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>> 
>> Sandy good to know. Also anytoher tipsthat you amy have for us.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:19 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> As a retired dietitian, I hate any diet that says "no no no no no!"
>> That's one that will be out the door before you know it! If it 
>> doesn't fit your lifestyle, it won't work, and it's not necessary. If 
>> you might like some of the recipes, try them, and add them to your 
>> regular menu. Or you could try out the diet by having one day a week 
>> be vegetarian (not necessarily vegan).
>> But really, leaving out whole food groups is unnecessary and 
>> unsatisfying, if you ask me. Keep meat portions relatively small, eat 
>> your fruits and veggies, add a little grain and/or potato, and be 
>> happy! It's best not to do things that are wildly different than your 
>> normal. Especially when your diabetes is obviously well-controlled.
>> 
>> Sandi
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 1:31 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: David Andrews
>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>> 
>> I have a question -- curious to see what people think ... at the risk 
>> of starting a firestorm.
>> 
>> First, let me say, I have very mild type 2 diabetes, A1C of 6.6.
>> 
>> I just read a book by Dr. Neil Barnard, in which he promotes a low 
>> fat diet as a way to combat type 2 diabetes. He says basically, 
>> vegan, no red meat, no poultry, no fish, no dairy, no animal fats, 
>> and no
eggs.
>> I can see how it might work, but would hate giving up my meat!
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
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