[Diabetes-Talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 113, Issue 1

Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter bkpollpeter at gmail.com
Wed Feb 1 17:50:06 UTC 2017


Potato and breads are high in carbs. If looking to lower A1-C, should eat
these foods sparingly even if fitting into your carb count. Oatmeal has
carbs, and while it has a lot of benefits, lowering A1-C is not one of them.
Oatmeal is a healthy choice, but has carbs and will affect glucose levels.
If wanting to lower A1-C, eat a lot of protein and fresh veggies, and eat
bread and high carb foods sparingly. Also, exercise when you can and test
frequently. This will help to lower A1-C's.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 10:08 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Diabetes-Talk Digest, Vol 113, Issue 1

Hi there,
Welcome to the list.
Do you know how many carbs you can have for each meal?
That helps.
So you don't have to cut out those wonderful things like potatoes and bread.
I know it is hard to get someone to read how many calories are in bread 
things like that, I wish it was easier.
I to am a total.
Where if you can get a good loaf of bread this helps.
Then you still can have sandwiches.
I also do the multi grain breads.
This helps your tummy problems.
I know I have to take a pll for this as well.
Oat meal is another fun thing to eat and it does help lower the a one c.
I hope this helps.

Original message:
> Hello all on list. My name is Erica. I am new on the list. Thought I can
get
> some help from the list. I am working on lowing my sugars. My last a1c was
> 9-6. I am on insulin. And I have diabetes plus gout and stomach acid. As
> well as kidney problems. I am working on cutting down on potatoes and
white
> bread for now. Any tips on how to lower the sugars. I don't want to change
> my insulin for now. It has been over the nine about the last four years.
So
> any help will be grate. And no on going on a pump for now. Doctor was
going
> to look in too it for me.  So thanks again Erica.

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>    1. Re: Baby news (Walter Mitchell)
>    2. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level
>       (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
>    3. Re: Baby news (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
>    4. Re: Baby news (d m gina)
>    5. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level (d m gina)
>    6. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level (G melconian )
>    7. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level (G melconian )
>    8. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level (G melconian )
>    9. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level (d m gina)
>   10. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level (G melconian )
>   11. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level (G melconian )
>   12. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level (G melconian )
>   13. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level (Mark Tardif)
>   14. Oh insurance mess! (Veronica Elsea)
>   15. Re: Oh insurance mess! (TALey at ups.com)
>   16. Re: Oh insurance mess! (Jamie Gurganus)
>   17. Re: Oh insurance mess! (Veronica Elsea)
>   18. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level (Jamie Gurganus)
>   19. Re: Oh insurance mess! (TALey at ups.com)
>   20. Re: Oh insurance mess! (TALey at ups.com)
>   21. Re: Oh insurance mess! (Jamie Gurganus)
>   22. Re: Oh insurance mess! (G melconian )
>   23. Re: Oh insurance mess! (G melconian )
>   24. Re: Oh insurance mess! (Veronica Elsea)
>   25. Re: Oh insurance mess! (G melconian )
>   26. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level
>       (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
>   27. Re: re question about mainaintag a good a1c level
>       (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
>   28. Re: Oh insurance mess! (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
>   29. Re: Oh insurance mess! (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
>   30. Re: Oh insurance mess! (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)
>   31. Re: Oh insurance mess! (Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter)


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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:44:09 -0500
> From: "Walter Mitchell" <walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news
> Message-ID: <000d01d27bc8$19f9c280$4ded4780$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"

> Bridgit,

> That is wonderful news. Great things are on the way

> Be blessed,
> Walter Mitchell

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 10:27 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news

> Thanks. Baby doing well. Still requires oxygen, but on regular canula now
> and not Pap mask. Also, in the last couple of days, he no longer needs
photo
> therapy and is now in a regular crib in the NICU, so we can pick him up
and
> hold him whenever we want. He's also off IV fluids, and in fact, his IV
was
> completely removed. Hopefully these improvements continue and we can bring
> him home sooner rather than later.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:57 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news

> Bridgit, You totally rock! Best wishes to you, Daddy and Declan on the
birth
> of the new tiny one.

> What a great size for a baby, and he?ll do great! I had one six weeks
early
> nearly 43 years ago, he weighed 4 pounds 14 ounces, and now he?s
full-grown
> and great!

> Blessings to you all!

> Sandi

>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Congratulations Bridgit and family,

>> Bringing a new life into the world is a blessing. May the Lord bless
>> you and the fruit of your womb.

>> Living the dream, by raising expectations!

>> Much Love,
>> Walter Mitchell
>> Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter, Diabetes Action Network Ohio
>> Coordinator, NFB NEWSLINE Registered Ohio
>> (513) 582-8606 Mobil
>> (800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
>> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com <mailto:Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com> Email

>> Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

>> Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind
>> <https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind>

>> Cincinnati Chapter:
>> https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/
> <https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/>.

>> Twitter @ohnfb,
>> YouTube channel NFB OHIO



>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> <mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Bridgit
>> Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 4:22 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news

>> Dear friends,

>> Just taking a moment to inform you that my son, Duncan True Pollpeter,
>> arrived Tuesday morning! He's four weeks early, but doing very well.
>> His lungs are still developing, but in just a couple of days, his
>> oxygen requirements have gone down significantly, and he is taking to
>> feedings very well. He will have to spend some time in the NICU before
>> we bring him home, but hopefully not too long. Despite being early, he
>> was 8 pounds, 4 ounces and 21-1/2 inches long, grin. I'm doing well
>> and will leave hospital tomorrow. Big brother, Declan, says he loves
>> the baby and calls Duncan, "His baby," smile. May be quiet on the list
>> for a while, but wanted to let everyone know the good news.

>> Bridgit


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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:19:57 -0600
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <002801d27bcd$1a09aec0$4e1d0c40$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> Between 5 and 6 is fantastic, particularly for type 2's. 7 and lower is
> acceptable, especially for type 1's. You also need to take into
> consideration over-all health, and keeping BG's stable in general. A1-C's
> show what BG's have been running for the past 3 months

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Daniel Chavez via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:07 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Daniel Chavez <topdog2046 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> Hi,
> I myself am in the same boat as you. I'm on orel meds and on insulin too.
> An A1C target, I was told, was around 6.0 or 5.0, but maybe I have the
> number's wrong. For better results, insure you ask your doctor what A1C
> target he or she wants you at.
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> ------------------------------

> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:21:02 -0600
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news
> Message-ID: <003001d27bcd$40cfad70$c26f0850$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="UTF-8"

> Thank you. Hopefully we do not have to wait super long to bring him home.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Joy Stigile via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:16 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Joy Stigile <joystigile at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news

> Hi Bridget!

> It is so wonderful that your baby is healthy and you and he are almost
ready
> to go home!  All of your concentrated blood-sugar levels control has paid
> off handsomely!  I am very proud of you!

> Fondly, Joy


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 7:27 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news

> Thanks. Baby doing well. Still requires oxygen, but on regular canula now
> and not Pap mask. Also, in the last couple of days, he no longer needs
photo
> therapy and is now in a regular crib in the NICU, so we can pick him up
and
> hold him whenever we want. He's also off IV fluids, and in fact, his IV
was
> completely removed. Hopefully these improvements continue and we can bring
> him home sooner rather than later.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:57 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news

> Bridgit, You totally rock! Best wishes to you, Daddy and Declan on the
birth
> of the new tiny one.

> What a great size for a baby, and he?ll do great! I had one six weeks
early
> nearly 43 years ago, he weighed 4 pounds 14 ounces, and now he?s
full-grown
> and great!

> Blessings to you all!

> Sandi

>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Congratulations Bridgit and family,

>> Bringing a new life into the world is a blessing. May the Lord bless
>> you and the fruit of your womb.

>> Living the dream, by raising expectations!

>> Much Love,
>> Walter Mitchell
>> Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter, Diabetes Action Network Ohio
>> Coordinator, NFB NEWSLINE Registered Ohio
>> (513) 582-8606 Mobil
>> (800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
>> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com <mailto:Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com> Email

>> Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

>> Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind
>> <https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind>

>> Cincinnati Chapter:
>> https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/
> <https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/>.

>> Twitter @ohnfb,
>> YouTube channel NFB OHIO



>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> <mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Bridgit
>> Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 4:22 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news

>> Dear friends,

>> Just taking a moment to inform you that my son, Duncan True Pollpeter,
>> arrived Tuesday morning! He's four weeks early, but doing very well.
>> His lungs are still developing, but in just a couple of days, his
>> oxygen requirements have gone down significantly, and he is taking to
>> feedings very well. He will have to spend some time in the NICU before
>> we bring him home, but hopefully not too long. Despite being early, he
>> was 8 pounds, 4 ounces and 21-1/2 inches long, grin. I'm doing well
>> and will leave hospital tomorrow. Big brother, Declan, says he loves
>> the baby and calls Duncan, "His baby," smile. May be quiet on the list
>> for a while, but wanted to let everyone know the good news.

>> Bridgit


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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:13:15 -0500
> From: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news
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> I hope you are home now, and get on your feet soon.
> Sorry baby has so many problems.

> Original message:
>> Thanks. Baby doing well. Still requires oxygen, but on regular canula
>> now and not Pap mask. Also, in the last couple of days, he no longer
>> needs photo therapy and is now in a regular crib in the NICU, so we can
>> pick him up and hold him whenever we want. He's also off IV fluids, and
>> in fact, his IV was completely removed. Hopefully these improvements
>> continue and we can bring him home sooner rather than later.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 9:57 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news

>> Bridgit, You totally rock! Best wishes to you, Daddy and Declan on the
>> birth of the new tiny one.

>> What a great size for a baby, and he?ll do great! I had one six weeks
>> early nearly 43 years ago, he weighed 4 pounds 14 ounces, and now he?s
>> full-grown and great!

>> Blessings to you all!

>> Sandi

>>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Walter Mitchell via Diabetes-Talk
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> Congratulations Bridgit and family,

>>> Bringing a new life into the world is a blessing. May the Lord bless
>>> you and the fruit of your womb.

>>> Living the dream, by raising expectations!

>>> Much Love,
>>> Walter Mitchell
>>> Member, NFB Ohio, Cincinnati chapter, Diabetes Action Network Ohio
>>> Coordinator, NFB NEWSLINE Registered Ohio
>>> (513) 582-8606 Mobil
>>> (800) 340-8211 ext. 101  L2T Products and Services Toll free
>>> Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com <mailto:Walterl.mitch2 at gmail.com> Email

>>> Follow the NFB of Ohio on:

>>> Face Book, https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind
>>> <https://m.facebook.com/ohiosblind>

>>> Cincinnati Chapter:
>>> https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/
>>> <https://m.facebook.com/NationalFederationoftheBlindofCincinnati/>.

>>> Twitter @ohnfb,
>>> YouTube channel NFB OHIO



>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> <mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Bridgit
>>> Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 4:22 AM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Baby news

>>> Dear friends,

>>> Just taking a moment to inform you that my son, Duncan True Pollpeter,
>>> arrived Tuesday morning! He's four weeks early, but doing very well.
>>> His lungs are still developing, but in just a couple of days, his
>>> oxygen requirements have gone down significantly, and he is taking to
>>> feedings very well. He will have to spend some time in the NICU before
>>> we bring him home, but hopefully not too long. Despite being early, he
>>> was 8 pounds, 4 ounces and 21-1/2 inches long, grin. I'm doing well
>>> and will leave hospital tomorrow. Big brother, Declan, says he loves
>>> the baby and calls Duncan, "His baby," smile. May be quiet on the list
>>> for a while, but wanted to let everyone know the good news.

>>> Bridgit


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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:15:13 -0500
> From: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <b98dc0b7.9b58.4fb5.bbf0.517981649c2c at samobile.net>
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> That depends on you and doctor.
> You are doing well and this is good.
> If you want to go to six that is fine just make sure your number are
> not too low.
> Eat that wonderful oatmeal.
> That will help.

> Original message:
>> Hello I would like to know from experience diabetic what is the  average
> a1c
>> level for a type  2   diabetic too have that would be good to maintain
>> overtime. Having had diabetes for 12 years and have had 2 a1 c levels one
>> was 7.5   that was 36months ago and the last one which was done 2 weeks
> ago
>> was 7.4. So I am wondering what would be the optimal target to be at to
be
>> able to achieve for a goal of maintaining a good a1c level fora type
>> diabetic who is on insulin and on oral medications.

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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:27:25 -0800
> From: "G melconian " <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <00e301d27be7$4adbdb30$e0939190$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> Thanks Brigit. I will try to  achieve that . I know that 5 to 6 range may
> bea a bit hard to  accomplish but I will focus on getting down to the  6
to
> 7 range at first an then focus on getting  to  the 5 to 6 range.   What
> should one foucs on if they wanto accomplish that. i havea pretty good
diet
> anddo exercise regularly on averae 1.5 to 2 hours a day.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:20 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> Between 5 and 6 is fantastic, particularly for type 2's. 7 and lower is
> acceptable, especially for type 1's. You also need to take into
> consideration over-all health, and keeping BG's stable in general. A1-C's
> show what BG's have been running for the past 3 months

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Daniel Chavez via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:07 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Daniel Chavez <topdog2046 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> Hi,
> I myself am in the same boat as you. I'm on orel meds and on insulin too.
> An A1C target, I was told, was around 6.0 or 5.0, but maybe I have the
> number's wrong. For better results, insure you ask your doctor what A1C
> target he or she wants you at.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:28:02 -0800
> From: "G melconian " <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <00e401d27be7$60800470$21800d50$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> Thanks for the info.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
d
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:15 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> That depends on you and doctor.
> You are doing well and this is good.
> If you want to go to six that is fine just make sure your number are not
to
> low.
> Eat that wonderful oatmeal.
> That will help.

> Original message:
>> Hello I would like to know from experience diabetic what is the  average
> a1c
>> level for a type  2   diabetic too have that would be good to maintain
>> overtime. Having had diabetes for 12 years and have had 2 a1 c levels one
>> was 7.5   that was 36months ago and the last one which was done 2 weeks
> ago
>> was 7.4. So I am wondering what would be the optimal target to be at
>> to be able to achieve for a goal of maintaining a good a1c level fora
>> type diabetic who is on insulin and on oral medications.

>> _______________________________________________
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>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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>> ro.email

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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:30:04 -0800
> From: "G melconian " <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <00e501d27be7$a94f6420$fbee2c60$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> Thanks dan, I will do that. I have my next appointment with him in 2 weeks
> to do a follow up. So I will ask then. The a1c  that I reported from the
> past 2 weeks was from my primary doctor and not my endo so I will ask my
> endo who would be more on top of things  instead of  my general primary
> doctor.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Daniel Chavez via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:07 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Daniel Chavez <topdog2046 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> Hi,
> I myself am in the same boat as you. I'm on orel meds and on insulin too.
> An A1C target, I was told, was around 6.0 or 5.0, but maybe I have the
> number's wrong. For better results, insure you ask your doctor what A1C
> target he or she wants you at.
> _______________________________________________
> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
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> ------------------------------

> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:34:13 -0500
> From: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <e85ff721.ca17.41fc.980f.1ab403f42c23 at samobile.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"

> Gee that is pretty good, remember you want a life as well, not just
> exercising.
> I have a friend who is so over whelmed over exercising, that is all she
> knows.
> I want a life to do other things than just exercise.
> I am washing today going up and down stairs, that is enough for me today.
> I don't plan to knock myself out over not working on the tread mill.
> Wishing you the best.

> Original message:
>> Thanks Brigit. I will try to  achieve that . I know that 5 to 6 range may
>> bea a bit hard to  accomplish but I will focus on getting down to the  6
> to
>> 7 range at first an then focus on getting  to  the 5 to 6 range.   What
>> should one foucs on if they wanto accomplish that. i havea pretty good
> diet
>> anddo exercise regularly on averae 1.5 to 2 hours a day.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:20 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
level

>> Between 5 and 6 is fantastic, particularly for type 2's. 7 and lower is
>> acceptable, especially for type 1's. You also need to take into
>> consideration over-all health, and keeping BG's stable in general. A1-C's
>> show what BG's have been running for the past 3 months

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of
>> Daniel Chavez via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:07 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Chavez <topdog2046 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
level

>> Hi,
>> I myself am in the same boat as you. I'm on orel meds and on insulin too.
>> An A1C target, I was told, was around 6.0 or 5.0, but maybe I have the
>> number's wrong. For better results, insure you ask your doctor what A1C
>> target he or she wants you at.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:

>
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>> il.com


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> ------------------------------

> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:57:54 -0800
> From: "G melconian " <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <002601d27beb$8cb726f0$a62574d0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> Again, thanks for the encouragement.  Wil take your advice to heart.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
d
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:34 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> Gee that is pretty good, remember you want a life as well, not just
> exercising.
> I have a friend who is so over whelmed over exercising, that is all she
> knows.
> I want a life to do other things than just exercise.
> I am washing today going up and down stairs, that is enough for me today.
> I don't plan to knock myself out over not working on the tread mill.
> Wishing you the best.

> Original message:
>> Thanks Brigit. I will try to  achieve that . I know that 5 to 6 range
>> may bea a bit hard to  accomplish but I will focus on getting down to the
> 6 to
>> 7 range at first an then focus on getting  to  the 5 to 6 range.   What
>> should one foucs on if they wanto accomplish that. i havea pretty good
>> diet anddo exercise regularly on averae 1.5 to 2 hours a day.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:20 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Between 5 and 6 is fantastic, particularly for type 2's. 7 and lower
>> is acceptable, especially for type 1's. You also need to take into
>> consideration over-all health, and keeping BG's stable in general.
>> A1-C's show what BG's have been running for the past 3 months

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Daniel Chavez via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:07 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Chavez <topdog2046 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Hi,
>> I myself am in the same boat as you. I'm on orel meds and on insulin too.
>> An A1C target, I was told, was around 6.0 or 5.0, but maybe I have the
>> number's wrong. For better results, insure you ask your doctor what
>> A1C target he or she wants you at.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/bkpollpeter
>> %40gma
>> il.com


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> ------------------------------

> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 10:01:06 -0800
> From: "G melconian " <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <002901d27beb$ff3bdd10$fdb39730$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> The issues is that love ones think that I am not doing enough when I know
I
> am doing as much as I can to  keep my numbers  in check. Its not that easy
> when someone is not in your  shooes and keeps on telling you to do x or y.
> when they have no idea how hard it is.   There days that  I give up and
say
> why in the hell am I doing this and then there  are other days that I get
up
> and fight know that there  is  another day coming for a bbetter number
when
> I check with my meter and  confirm with my dexcom cgm.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
d
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:34 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> Gee that is pretty good, remember you want a life as well, not just
> exercising.
> I have a friend who is so over whelmed over exercising, that is all she
> knows.
> I want a life to do other things than just exercise.
> I am washing today going up and down stairs, that is enough for me today.
> I don't plan to knock myself out over not working on the tread mill.
> Wishing you the best.

> Original message:
>> Thanks Brigit. I will try to  achieve that . I know that 5 to 6 range
>> may bea a bit hard to  accomplish but I will focus on getting down to the
> 6 to
>> 7 range at first an then focus on getting  to  the 5 to 6 range.   What
>> should one foucs on if they wanto accomplish that. i havea pretty good
>> diet anddo exercise regularly on averae 1.5 to 2 hours a day.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:20 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Between 5 and 6 is fantastic, particularly for type 2's. 7 and lower
>> is acceptable, especially for type 1's. You also need to take into
>> consideration over-all health, and keeping BG's stable in general.
>> A1-C's show what BG's have been running for the past 3 months

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Daniel Chavez via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:07 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Chavez <topdog2046 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Hi,
>> I myself am in the same boat as you. I'm on orel meds and on insulin too.
>> An A1C target, I was told, was around 6.0 or 5.0, but maybe I have the
>> number's wrong. For better results, insure you ask your doctor what
>> A1C target he or she wants you at.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Diabetes-Talk mailing list
>> Diabetes-Talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Diabetes-Talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/bkpollpeter
>> %40gma
>> il.com


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> ------------------------------

> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 10:04:10 -0800
> From: "G melconian " <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <003101d27bec$6cb168b0$46143a10$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> Agree I do have a life  , have my small practice but I manage that time so
> that I wont have to worry about complications later in life as  I am in my
> mid 40's and want  to  live a long  life as long as I can with the death
> wish that I have been delt diabetes.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
d
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:34 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> Gee that is pretty good, remember you want a life as well, not just
> exercising.
> I have a friend who is so over whelmed over exercising, that is all she
> knows.
> I want a life to do other things than just exercise.
> I am washing today going up and down stairs, that is enough for me today.
> I don't plan to knock myself out over not working on the tread mill.
> Wishing you the best.

> Original message:
>> Thanks Brigit. I will try to  achieve that . I know that 5 to 6 range
>> may bea a bit hard to  accomplish but I will focus on getting down to the
> 6 to
>> 7 range at first an then focus on getting  to  the 5 to 6 range.   What
>> should one foucs on if they wanto accomplish that. i havea pretty good
>> diet anddo exercise regularly on averae 1.5 to 2 hours a day.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:20 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Between 5 and 6 is fantastic, particularly for type 2's. 7 and lower
>> is acceptable, especially for type 1's. You also need to take into
>> consideration over-all health, and keeping BG's stable in general.
>> A1-C's show what BG's have been running for the past 3 months

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Daniel Chavez via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:07 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Chavez <topdog2046 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Hi,
>> I myself am in the same boat as you. I'm on orel meds and on insulin too.
>> An A1C target, I was told, was around 6.0 or 5.0, but maybe I have the
>> number's wrong. For better results, insure you ask your doctor what
>> A1C target he or she wants you at.
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:15:11 -0500
> From: "Mark Tardif" <markspark at roadrunner.com>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
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> Some days we will miss, that's just a fact.  And going up and down a
flight
> of stairs several times a day is good exercise built into your routine,
> alright!



> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:34 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> Gee that is pretty good, remember you want a life as well, not just
> exercising.
> I have a friend who is so over whelmed over exercising, that is all she
> knows.
> I want a life to do other things than just exercise.
> I am washing today going up and down stairs, that is enough for me today.
> I don't plan to knock myself out over not working on the tread mill.
> Wishing you the best.

> Original message:
>> Thanks Brigit. I will try to  achieve that . I know that 5 to 6 range may
>> bea a bit hard to  accomplish but I will focus on getting down to the  6
>> to
>> 7 range at first an then focus on getting  to  the 5 to 6 range.   What
>> should one foucs on if they wanto accomplish that. i havea pretty good
>> diet
>> anddo exercise regularly on averae 1.5 to 2 hours a day.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:20 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
level

>> Between 5 and 6 is fantastic, particularly for type 2's. 7 and lower is
>> acceptable, especially for type 1's. You also need to take into
>> consideration over-all health, and keeping BG's stable in general. A1-C's
>> show what BG's have been running for the past 3 months

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of
>> Daniel Chavez via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:07 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Chavez <topdog2046 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
level

>> Hi,
>> I myself am in the same boat as you. I'm on orel meds and on insulin too.
>> An A1C target, I was told, was around 6.0 or 5.0, but maybe I have the
>> number's wrong. For better results, insure you ask your doctor what A1C
>> target he or she wants you at.
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:03:30 -0800
> From: "Veronica Elsea" <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <000001d27bf4$b63b4520$22b1cf60$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407






> ------------------------------

> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 19:39:06 +0000
> From: <TALey at ups.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <a88d29da3eea4c939bc01006504f2cac at SVRP0004CB2B.us.ups.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

> Hi Veronica,

> The Animas Ping and the Animas Vibe are essentially the same in terms of
> giving a bolus as a blind person. I used the Animas Ping for almost a
decade
> prior to getting the Vibe. Now, I didn't use the blood glucose meter that
> came with the Ping, but that did not keep me from using the Ping itself to
> give myself boluses. .

> When I switched from the Ping to the Vibe six months ago, I literally had
> nothing new to learn. So, if the Ping gets approved by your insurance and
> the Vibe won't, I would go that direction. The Animas Ping works 100% the
> same as the Vibe for me as a totally blind pumper.

> Hope this helps.

> Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> ------------------------------

> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 14:21:18 -0600
> From: "Jamie Gurganus" <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <006901d27bff$95504b70$bff0e250$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> Veronica,

>       I'm so sorry to hear this.  I think you should appeal this decision,
> since it is the only pump that is the most accessible for the blind.
After
> 18 years of using Accucheck pumps, I was forced to find another pump when
> Roche decided to stop distributing their pumps in the U.S.  After visiting
> with my diabetic educator, playing with the three available pumps and
> finding the Diabetes Talk site to ask other diabetics who are blind, I
came
> to the conclusion that the Vibe was the best option.  I also use a Dexcom,
> but I don't have it paired with the pump.  I like using the iPhone Share
app
> that allows me to know what my blood sugar is.  Pairing it with the Vibe
> would be useless for me and would mean that I would have to input blood
> sugars in to both the Dexcom and pump to calibrate it twice a day.  I'm
> lucky that my kids are accessible every morning and night to put a blood
> sugar in to the Dexcom, and I didn't find a need to also use the pump for
a
> receiver.  My insurance company did not have any issues with me getting a
> new pump, since my Spirit pump's warranty had expired a year ago.  I did
> have to provide a month's worth of blood sugars showing that I tested at
> least four times aday.  Isn't that crazy?  Anyway, I sure hope you can
> appeal and argue your case for the Vibe.  It really is a shame that
> insurance would keep you from obtaining the only pump that a blind person
> can use with limited sighted assistance.  I'm just two weeks  in to using
my
> Vibe, and I'm still struggling to learn how to do what I used to do so
> easily on my Spirit.  I am fortunate to have two teenagers living with me
to
> help me when it doesn't do what I wanted it to do.  But, I can easily give
> myself a bolus using the audible bolus feature.  Even though the Vibe
> doesn't have audible beeps to let me know that I've depressed a button,
the
> buttons do make a slight click sound once you press them.  So, that part
is
> nice.  It is just learning how to blindly navigate a whole new set of
menus.

> Good luck, and please consider appealing the decision.  You shouldn't have
> to go back  to injections after being on a pump.

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> ------------------------------

> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:15:38 -0800
> From: "Veronica Elsea" <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <001101d27bfe$c9d49eb0$5d7ddc10$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> No, they are not the same. The correction bolus is very different and that
> is important to me. I sat here in my house in December and worked with
both
> pumps. To give a correction bolus on the Ping, you enter your BG manually,
> then the pump shows how much insulin it thinks you need. At that point you
> have to hit the up-arrow key till the number on the display matches.
> Obviously this is out for us. On the Vibe, you enter your BG reading, the
> pump shows what it thinks you need, just as in the Ping. But when you hit
> the up-arrow, it now selects that amount. So we still can't read the
amount
> but we can use the feature if we so choose. And since I so choose, that's
a
> big difference for me. And it's ridiculous to not have what I want because
> everyone else was in too big of a hurry to go to bat for me. Not to
mention,
> having to fight for a pump I don't really want in the first place. <grin>
> But no matter what I do, it now has to go through appeals which are not
> fast. So we'll see what happens. Guess I'm just stubborn and I think I'm
> worth it. <grin>
> Stay tuned!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Tom Ley via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:39 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: TALey at ups.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi Veronica,

> The Animas Ping and the Animas Vibe are essentially the same in terms of
> giving a bolus as a blind person. I used the Animas Ping for almost a
decade
> prior to getting the Vibe. Now, I didn't use the blood glucose meter that
> came with the Ping, but that did not keep me from using the Ping itself to
> give myself boluses. .

> When I switched from the Ping to the Vibe six months ago, I literally had
> nothing new to learn. So, if the Ping gets approved by your insurance and
> the Vibe won't, I would go that direction. The Animas Ping works 100% the
> same as the Vibe for me as a totally blind pumper.

> Hope this helps.

> Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




> _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------

> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 14:34:33 -0600
> From: "Jamie Gurganus" <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <006d01d27c01$6e97cf60$4bc76e20$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> I have been a diabetic for 47 years and have learned how to live with
> diabetes and not let it run my life.  With all of the latest technology
and
> ways to manage diabetes, it is not a death sentence.  I, personally look
at
> it as a healthy way of living.  There are a lot worse conditions that
people
> are living with than diabetes.  I'm sorry to hear that others are
> criticizing your efforts to maintain good blood sugar control.  You are
> doing your best, have a pump and Dexcom and hopefully following your diet
> and exercising.  I'll tell you what I did to really help keep my blood
> sugars in a good range.  I changed the high alert from 240 to 180.  By the
> time I am 240, I feel awful, so I lowered when it tells me that I am high.

> Take care!

>                         Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
G
> melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:01 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: G melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> The issues is that love ones think that I am not doing enough when I know
I
> am doing as much as I can to  keep my numbers  in check. Its not that easy
> when someone is not in your  shooes and keeps on telling you to do x or y.
> when they have no idea how hard it is.   There days that  I give up and
say
> why in the hell am I doing this and then there  are other days that I get
up
> and fight know that there  is  another day coming for a bbetter number
when
> I check with my meter and  confirm with my dexcom cgm.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
d
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:34 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> Gee that is pretty good, remember you want a life as well, not just
> exercising.
> I have a friend who is so over whelmed over exercising, that is all she
> knows.
> I want a life to do other things than just exercise.
> I am washing today going up and down stairs, that is enough for me today.
> I don't plan to knock myself out over not working on the tread mill.
> Wishing you the best.

> Original message:
>> Thanks Brigit. I will try to  achieve that . I know that 5 to 6 range
>> may bea a bit hard to  accomplish but I will focus on getting down to
>> the
> 6 to
>> 7 range at first an then focus on getting  to  the 5 to 6 range.   What
>> should one foucs on if they wanto accomplish that. i havea pretty good
>> diet anddo exercise regularly on averae 1.5 to 2 hours a day.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:20 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Between 5 and 6 is fantastic, particularly for type 2's. 7 and lower
>> is acceptable, especially for type 1's. You also need to take into
>> consideration over-all health, and keeping BG's stable in general.
>> A1-C's show what BG's have been running for the past 3 months

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Daniel Chavez via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:07 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Chavez <topdog2046 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Hi,
>> I myself am in the same boat as you. I'm on orel meds and on insulin too.
>> An A1C target, I was told, was around 6.0 or 5.0, but maybe I have the
>> number's wrong. For better results, insure you ask your doctor what
>> A1C target he or she wants you at.
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> ------------------------------

> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 20:37:44 +0000
> From: <TALey at ups.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <f8e3413b6a1e4769b7730a5354e70e65 at SVRP0004CB2B.us.ups.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

> Veronica,
> My mistake to assume you used the pump the same way I do. I only ever use
> the audio bolus function. Sorry about that. Good luck.
> Tom



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:16 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> No, they are not the same. The correction bolus is very different and that
> is important to me. I sat here in my house in December and worked with
both
> pumps. To give a correction bolus on the Ping, you enter your BG manually,
> then the pump shows how much insulin it thinks you need. At that point you
> have to hit the up-arrow key till the number on the display matches.
> Obviously this is out for us. On the Vibe, you enter your BG reading, the
> pump shows what it thinks you need, just as in the Ping. But when you hit
> the up-arrow, it now selects that amount. So we still can't read the
amount
> but we can use the feature if we so choose. And since I so choose, that's
a
> big difference for me. And it's ridiculous to not have what I want because
> everyone else was in too big of a hurry to go to bat for me. Not to
mention,
> having to fight for a pump I don't really want in the first place. <grin>
> But no matter what I do, it now has to go through appeals which are not
> fast. So we'll see what happens. Guess I'm just stubborn and I think I'm
> worth it. <grin> Stay tuned!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Tom Ley via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:39 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: TALey at ups.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi Veronica,

> The Animas Ping and the Animas Vibe are essentially the same in terms of
> giving a bolus as a blind person. I used the Animas Ping for almost a
decade
> prior to getting the Vibe. Now, I didn't use the blood glucose meter that
> came with the Ping, but that did not keep me from using the Ping itself to
> give myself boluses. .

> When I switched from the Ping to the Vibe six months ago, I literally had
> nothing new to learn. So, if the Ping gets approved by your insurance and
> the Vibe won't, I would go that direction. The Animas Ping works 100% the
> same as the Vibe for me as a totally blind pumper.

> Hope this helps.

> Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> ------------------------------

> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 20:41:00 +0000
> From: <TALey at ups.com>
> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <122aa54c32864a68a70c190722073933 at SVRP0004CB2B.us.ups.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

> Jamie,
> Keep working on it, you will eventually get used to the new Vibe menus
too,
> I'm sure.
> Quick question, are you using the Dexcom 4G or the 5G? I'm using the 5G
and
> can calibrate my Dexcom twice a day right through the Dexcom G5 Mobile app
> on my iPhone.
> Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:21 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Veronica,

>       I'm so sorry to hear this.  I think you should appeal this decision,
> since it is the only pump that is the most accessible for the blind.
After
> 18 years of using Accucheck pumps, I was forced to find another pump when
> Roche decided to stop distributing their pumps in the U.S.  After visiting
> with my diabetic educator, playing with the three available pumps and
> finding the Diabetes Talk site to ask other diabetics who are blind, I
came
> to the conclusion that the Vibe was the best option.  I also use a Dexcom,
> but I don't have it paired with the pump.  I like using the iPhone Share
app
> that allows me to know what my blood sugar is.  Pairing it with the Vibe
> would be useless for me and would mean that I would have to input blood
> sugars in to both the Dexcom and pump to calibrate it twice a day.  I'm
> lucky that my kids are accessible every morning and night to put a blood
> sugar in to the Dexcom, and I didn't find a need to also use the pump for
a
> receiver.  My insurance company did not have any issues with me getting a
> new pump, since my Spirit pump's warranty had expired a year ago.  I did
> have to provide a month's worth of blood sugars showing that I tested at
> least four times aday.  Isn't that crazy?  Anyway, I sure hope you can
> appeal and argue your case for the Vibe.  It really is a shame that
> insurance would keep you from obtaining the only pump that a blind person
> can use with limited sighted assistance.  I'm just two weeks  in to using
my
> Vibe, and I'm still struggling to learn how to do what I used to do so
> easily on my Spirit.  I am fortunate to have two teenagers living with me
to
> help me when it doesn't do what I wanted it to do.  But, I can easily give
> myself a bolus using the audible bolus feature.  Even though the Vibe
> doesn't have audible beeps to let me know that I've depressed a button,
the
> buttons do make a slight click sound once you press them.  So, that part
is
> nice.  It is just learning how to blindly navigate a whole new set of
menus.

> Good luck, and please consider appealing the decision.  You shouldn't have
> to go back  to injections after being on a pump.

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> ------------------------------

> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 14:46:59 -0600
> From: "Jamie Gurganus" <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <008401d27c03$2b4c4310$81e4c930$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> I'm using the G4, since that is all that was available almost three years
> ago.  That is a great feature to be able to calibrate it on the phone.  I
> try to do everything I can independently, so I need to check in to
upgrading
> to the G5.

> Thanks for the words of encouragement for the pump!  I know it is just a
> matter of learning the sequences, and my 51 year old memory isn't as quick
> to learn new things!

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Tom Ley via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:41 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: TALey at ups.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Jamie,
> Keep working on it, you will eventually get used to the new Vibe menus
too,
> I'm sure.
> Quick question, are you using the Dexcom 4G or the 5G? I'm using the 5G
and
> can calibrate my Dexcom twice a day right through the Dexcom G5 Mobile app
> on my iPhone.
> Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:21 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Veronica,

>       I'm so sorry to hear this.  I think you should appeal this decision,
> since it is the only pump that is the most accessible for the blind.
After
> 18 years of using Accucheck pumps, I was forced to find another pump when
> Roche decided to stop distributing their pumps in the U.S.  After visiting
> with my diabetic educator, playing with the three available pumps and
> finding the Diabetes Talk site to ask other diabetics who are blind, I
came
> to the conclusion that the Vibe was the best option.  I also use a Dexcom,
> but I don't have it paired with the pump.  I like using the iPhone Share
app
> that allows me to know what my blood sugar is.  Pairing it with the Vibe
> would be useless for me and would mean that I would have to input blood
> sugars in to both the Dexcom and pump to calibrate it twice a day.  I'm
> lucky that my kids are accessible every morning and night to put a blood
> sugar in to the Dexcom, and I didn't find a need to also use the pump for
a
> receiver.  My insurance company did not have any issues with me getting a
> new pump, since my Spirit pump's warranty had expired a year ago.  I did
> have to provide a month's worth of blood sugars showing that I tested at
> least four times aday.  Isn't that crazy?  Anyway, I sure hope you can
> appeal and argue your case for the Vibe.  It really is a shame that
> insurance would keep you from obtaining the only pump that a blind person
> can use with limited sighted assistance.  I'm just two weeks  in to using
my
> Vibe, and I'm still struggling to learn how to do what I used to do so
> easily on my Spirit.  I am fortunate to have two teenagers living with me
to
> help me when it doesn't do what I wanted it to do.  But, I can easily give
> myself a bolus using the audible bolus feature.  Even though the Vibe
> doesn't have audible beeps to let me know that I've depressed a button,
the
> buttons do make a slight click sound once you press them.  So, that part
is
> nice.  It is just learning how to blindly navigate a whole new set of
menus.

> Good luck, and please consider appealing the decision.  You shouldn't have
> to go back  to injections after being on a pump.

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:06:27 -0800
> From: "G melconian " <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <000c01d27c05$e3e9b270$abbd1750$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> Same her, also have he dedexcom g5 and I could not live without it.  itsa
> great toodl for managing my diabetes.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Tom Ley via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:41 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: TALey at ups.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Jamie,
> Keep working on it, you will eventually get used to the new Vibe menus
too,
> I'm sure.
> Quick question, are you using the Dexcom 4G or the 5G? I'm using the 5G
and
> can calibrate my Dexcom twice a day right through the Dexcom G5 Mobile app
> on my iPhone.
> Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:21 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Veronica,

>       I'm so sorry to hear this.  I think you should appeal this decision,
> since it is the only pump that is the most accessible for the blind.
After
> 18 years of using Accucheck pumps, I was forced to find another pump when
> Roche decided to stop distributing their pumps in the U.S.  After visiting
> with my diabetic educator, playing with the three available pumps and
> finding the Diabetes Talk site to ask other diabetics who are blind, I
came
> to the conclusion that the Vibe was the best option.  I also use a Dexcom,
> but I don't have it paired with the pump.  I like using the iPhone Share
app
> that allows me to know what my blood sugar is.  Pairing it with the Vibe
> would be useless for me and would mean that I would have to input blood
> sugars in to both the Dexcom and pump to calibrate it twice a day.  I'm
> lucky that my kids are accessible every morning and night to put a blood
> sugar in to the Dexcom, and I didn't find a need to also use the pump for
a
> receiver.  My insurance company did not have any issues with me getting a
> new pump, since my Spirit pump's warranty had expired a year ago.  I did
> have to provide a month's worth of blood sugars showing that I tested at
> least four times aday.  Isn't that crazy?  Anyway, I sure hope you can
> appeal and argue your case for the Vibe.  It really is a shame that
> insurance would keep you from obtaining the only pump that a blind person
> can use with limited sighted assistance.  I'm just two weeks  in to using
my
> Vibe, and I'm still struggling to learn how to do what I used to do so
> easily on my Spirit.  I am fortunate to have two teenagers living with me
to
> help me when it doesn't do what I wanted it to do.  But, I can easily give
> myself a bolus using the audible bolus feature.  Even though the Vibe
> doesn't have audible beeps to let me know that I've depressed a button,
the
> buttons do make a slight click sound once you press them.  So, that part
is
> nice.  It is just learning how to blindly navigate a whole new set of
menus.

> Good luck, and please consider appealing the decision.  You shouldn't have
> to go back  to injections after being on a pump.

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> ------------------------------

> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:10:57 -0800
> From: "G melconian " <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <002b01d27c06$8487dc70$8d979550$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> Veronica, hopefully you will get your pump issue resolved an get the right
> pump that you need.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:04 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> ------------------------------

> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:32:49 -0800
> From: "Veronica Elsea" <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <000301d27c09$9236a3d0$b6a3eb70$@laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> Oh Jamie, I would highly recommend upgrading to the G5 mobile. I am
> completely independent with mine although sometimes I do still screw up
the
> tape. <grin>
> If I end up with the Vibe, the toughest thing I ran into was pushing those
> arrow keys just at the right amount of force and speed. While the click is
> definitely audible, sometimes one click can jump you several things.
That's
> where my practice will definitely be, well, that and memorizing new stuff.
> Not quite as tricky as the OmniPod though, where sometimes the confirm is
> the right soft key and sometimes it's the middle and all sorts of fun
stuff.

> But that's the really weird thing about my insurance. My pump has been out
> of warranty since 2009. Hello? At least I know I have the skills, desire
and
> persistence to advocate for myself. On one level, I want to just be lazy
but
> at that core level, you bet I'll go after it.
> But here's a question for all of you. Sometimes I'm not the best at
> advocating for something without it exacting quite a toll on me. I see
many
> life-long advocates who seem to have the passion but also to have a
certain
> detachment so they aren't so beat up in the process. Does that make sense?
> I've done what I can this morning and won't know anything till at least
the
> end of the week. So I need to get on with my life, conserve cartridges and
> hope for the best. Really? I'm really good at having fantasy discussions
> with people in my head and trying to change the outcome just by thinking
it.
> <grin> Kind of hard on the sleep though. <grin>
> Jamie, they may not have given you an argument because you had the same
> version of the Dexcom. In my case, since it's a new insurance, I'm not
sure
> that anyone told them I had the Dexcom at all.
> Anyway, thanks for weighing in, all of you. I'll let you know what
happens.
> In the meantime, oh please, hang in there, Klaus. That's my pump's name.
> <grin>
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:47 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> I'm using the G4, since that is all that was available almost three years
> ago.  That is a great feature to be able to calibrate it on the phone.  I
> try to do everything I can independently, so I need to check in to
upgrading
> to the G5.

> Thanks for the words of encouragement for the pump!  I know it is just a
> matter of learning the sequences, and my 51 year old memory isn't as quick
> to learn new things!

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Tom Ley via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:41 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: TALey at ups.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Jamie,
> Keep working on it, you will eventually get used to the new Vibe menus
too,
> I'm sure.
> Quick question, are you using the Dexcom 4G or the 5G? I'm using the 5G
and
> can calibrate my Dexcom twice a day right through the Dexcom G5 Mobile app
> on my iPhone.
> Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:21 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Veronica,

>       I'm so sorry to hear this.  I think you should appeal this decision,
> since it is the only pump that is the most accessible for the blind.
After
> 18 years of using Accucheck pumps, I was forced to find another pump when
> Roche decided to stop distributing their pumps in the U.S.  After visiting
> with my diabetic educator, playing with the three available pumps and
> finding the Diabetes Talk site to ask other diabetics who are blind, I
came
> to the conclusion that the Vibe was the best option.  I also use a Dexcom,
> but I don't have it paired with the pump.  I like using the iPhone Share
app
> that allows me to know what my blood sugar is.  Pairing it with the Vibe
> would be useless for me and would mean that I would have to input blood
> sugars in to both the Dexcom and pump to calibrate it twice a day.  I'm
> lucky that my kids are accessible every morning and night to put a blood
> sugar in to the Dexcom, and I didn't find a need to also use the pump for
a
> receiver.  My insurance company did not have any issues with me getting a
> new pump, since my Spirit pump's warranty had expired a year ago.  I did
> have to provide a month's worth of blood sugars showing that I tested at
> least four times aday.  Isn't that crazy?  Anyway, I sure hope you can
> appeal and argue your case for the Vibe.  It really is a shame that
> insurance would keep you from obtaining the only pump that a blind person
> can use with limited sighted assistance.  I'm just two weeks  in to using
my
> Vibe, and I'm still struggling to learn how to do what I used to do so
> easily on my Spirit.  I am fortunate to have two teenagers living with me
to
> help me when it doesn't do what I wanted it to do.  But, I can easily give
> myself a bolus using the audible bolus feature.  Even though the Vibe
> doesn't have audible beeps to let me know that I've depressed a button,
the
> buttons do make a slight click sound once you press them.  So, that part
is
> nice.  It is just learning how to blindly navigate a whole new set of
menus.

> Good luck, and please consider appealing the decision.  You shouldn't have
> to go back  to injections after being on a pump.

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> ------------------------------

> Message: 25
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:44:04 -0800
> From: "G melconian " <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <001f01d27c0b$253524d0$6f9f6e70$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> Agree with veronica assessment of he g5 mobile.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:33 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Oh Jamie, I would highly recommend upgrading to the G5 mobile. I am
> completely independent with mine although sometimes I do still screw up
the
> tape. <grin> If I end up with the Vibe, the toughest thing I ran into was
> pushing those arrow keys just at the right amount of force and speed.
While
> the click is definitely audible, sometimes one click can jump you several
> things. That's where my practice will definitely be, well, that and
> memorizing new stuff.
> Not quite as tricky as the OmniPod though, where sometimes the confirm is
> the right soft key and sometimes it's the middle and all sorts of fun
stuff.

> But that's the really weird thing about my insurance. My pump has been out
> of warranty since 2009. Hello? At least I know I have the skills, desire
and
> persistence to advocate for myself. On one level, I want to just be lazy
but
> at that core level, you bet I'll go after it.
> But here's a question for all of you. Sometimes I'm not the best at
> advocating for something without it exacting quite a toll on me. I see
many
> life-long advocates who seem to have the passion but also to have a
certain
> detachment so they aren't so beat up in the process. Does that make sense?
> I've done what I can this morning and won't know anything till at least
the
> end of the week. So I need to get on with my life, conserve cartridges and
> hope for the best. Really? I'm really good at having fantasy discussions
> with people in my head and trying to change the outcome just by thinking
it.
> <grin> Kind of hard on the sleep though. <grin> Jamie, they may not have
> given you an argument because you had the same version of the Dexcom. In
my
> case, since it's a new insurance, I'm not sure that anyone told them I had
> the Dexcom at all.
> Anyway, thanks for weighing in, all of you. I'll let you know what
happens.
> In the meantime, oh please, hang in there, Klaus. That's my pump's name.
> <grin>
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:47 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> I'm using the G4, since that is all that was available almost three years
> ago.  That is a great feature to be able to calibrate it on the phone.  I
> try to do everything I can independently, so I need to check in to
upgrading
> to the G5.

> Thanks for the words of encouragement for the pump!  I know it is just a
> matter of learning the sequences, and my 51 year old memory isn't as quick
> to learn new things!

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Tom Ley via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:41 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: TALey at ups.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Jamie,
> Keep working on it, you will eventually get used to the new Vibe menus
too,
> I'm sure.
> Quick question, are you using the Dexcom 4G or the 5G? I'm using the 5G
and
> can calibrate my Dexcom twice a day right through the Dexcom G5 Mobile app
> on my iPhone.
> Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:21 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Veronica,

>       I'm so sorry to hear this.  I think you should appeal this decision,
> since it is the only pump that is the most accessible for the blind.
After
> 18 years of using Accucheck pumps, I was forced to find another pump when
> Roche decided to stop distributing their pumps in the U.S.  After visiting
> with my diabetic educator, playing with the three available pumps and
> finding the Diabetes Talk site to ask other diabetics who are blind, I
came
> to the conclusion that the Vibe was the best option.  I also use a Dexcom,
> but I don't have it paired with the pump.  I like using the iPhone Share
app
> that allows me to know what my blood sugar is.  Pairing it with the Vibe
> would be useless for me and would mean that I would have to input blood
> sugars in to both the Dexcom and pump to calibrate it twice a day.  I'm
> lucky that my kids are accessible every morning and night to put a blood
> sugar in to the Dexcom, and I didn't find a need to also use the pump for
a
> receiver.  My insurance company did not have any issues with me getting a
> new pump, since my Spirit pump's warranty had expired a year ago.  I did
> have to provide a month's worth of blood sugars showing that I tested at
> least four times aday.  Isn't that crazy?  Anyway, I sure hope you can
> appeal and argue your case for the Vibe.  It really is a shame that
> insurance would keep you from obtaining the only pump that a blind person
> can use with limited sighted assistance.  I'm just two weeks  in to using
my
> Vibe, and I'm still struggling to learn how to do what I used to do so
> easily on my Spirit.  I am fortunate to have two teenagers living with me
to
> help me when it doesn't do what I wanted it to do.  But, I can easily give
> myself a bolus using the audible bolus feature.  Even though the Vibe
> doesn't have audible beeps to let me know that I've depressed a button,
the
> buttons do make a slight click sound once you press them.  So, that part
is
> nice.  It is just learning how to blindly navigate a whole new set of
menus.

> Good luck, and please consider appealing the decision.  You shouldn't have
> to go back  to injections after being on a pump.

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> ------------------------------

> Message: 26
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:27:06 -0600
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <009c01d27c21$eb564430$c202cc90$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> Daily activity is good for anyone. But it's cardio that will truly affect
> blood sugars. You don't have to be a slave to exercise to accomplish this
> goal. You need your heart rate to a certain level to accomplish cardio
> exercise. Even just exercising 30 minuts 3 times a week can make a big
> difference. You don't have to be a gym rat to be healthy and get good
> exercise in.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
d
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:34 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> Gee that is pretty good, remember you want a life as well, not just
> exercising.
> I have a friend who is so over whelmed over exercising, that is all she
> knows.
> I want a life to do other things than just exercise.
> I am washing today going up and down stairs, that is enough for me today.
> I don't plan to knock myself out over not working on the tread mill.
> Wishing you the best.

> Original message:
>> Thanks Brigit. I will try to  achieve that . I know that 5 to 6 range
>> may bea a bit hard to  accomplish but I will focus on getting down to the
> 6 to
>> 7 range at first an then focus on getting  to  the 5 to 6 range.   What
>> should one foucs on if they wanto accomplish that. i havea pretty good
>> diet anddo exercise regularly on averae 1.5 to 2 hours a day.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:20 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Between 5 and 6 is fantastic, particularly for type 2's. 7 and lower
>> is acceptable, especially for type 1's. You also need to take into
>> consideration over-all health, and keeping BG's stable in general.
>> A1-C's show what BG's have been running for the past 3 months

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Daniel Chavez via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:07 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Chavez <topdog2046 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Hi,
>> I myself am in the same boat as you. I'm on orel meds and on insulin too.
>> An A1C target, I was told, was around 6.0 or 5.0, but maybe I have the
>> number's wrong. For better results, insure you ask your doctor what
>> A1C target he or she wants you at.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> il.com


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> ------------------------------

> Message: 27
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:51:52 -0600
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>         level
> Message-ID: <00bb01d27c25$60f8adb0$22ea0910$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> F them, grin. Like they even know anything about diabetes unless one
> themselves or a doctor. Otherwise, I wouldn't pay it much mind.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
G
> melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:01 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: G melconian <gmelconian619 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> The issues is that love ones think that I am not doing enough when I know
I
> am doing as much as I can to  keep my numbers  in check. Its not that easy
> when someone is not in your  shooes and keeps on telling you to do x or y.
> when they have no idea how hard it is.   There days that  I give up and
say
> why in the hell am I doing this and then there  are other days that I get
up
> and fight know that there  is  another day coming for a bbetter number
when
> I check with my meter and  confirm with my dexcom cgm.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
d
> m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:34 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c level

> Gee that is pretty good, remember you want a life as well, not just
> exercising.
> I have a friend who is so over whelmed over exercising, that is all she
> knows.
> I want a life to do other things than just exercise.
> I am washing today going up and down stairs, that is enough for me today.
> I don't plan to knock myself out over not working on the tread mill.
> Wishing you the best.

> Original message:
>> Thanks Brigit. I will try to  achieve that . I know that 5 to 6 range
>> may bea a bit hard to  accomplish but I will focus on getting down to
>> the
> 6 to
>> 7 range at first an then focus on getting  to  the 5 to 6 range.   What
>> should one foucs on if they wanto accomplish that. i havea pretty good
>> diet anddo exercise regularly on averae 1.5 to 2 hours a day.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:20 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Between 5 and 6 is fantastic, particularly for type 2's. 7 and lower
>> is acceptable, especially for type 1's. You also need to take into
>> consideration over-all health, and keeping BG's stable in general.
>> A1-C's show what BG's have been running for the past 3 months

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Daniel Chavez via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:07 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Chavez <topdog2046 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] re question about mainaintag a good a1c
>> level

>> Hi,
>> I myself am in the same boat as you. I'm on orel meds and on insulin too.
>> An A1C target, I was told, was around 6.0 or 5.0, but maybe I have the
>> number's wrong. For better results, insure you ask your doctor what
>> A1C target he or she wants you at.
>> _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------

> Message: 28
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:56:01 -0600
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <00bc01d27c25$f5b80e00$e1282a00$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> Rant away, dear. We all need to at times, smile. This is frustrating stuff
> for anyone, then add in being blind, it can make things more frustrating
> because of the lack of accessibility. Hang in there.

> I just spoke with a doctor that said Medicare will now approve CGMs for
> certain cases. That's progress if this is true.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> ------------------------------

> Message: 29
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 19:07:46 -0600
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <00bf01d27c27$9999fbe0$cccdf3a0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> Weirdly, I found a community of people on Facebook who have been on the
> pump, many for years, and hate it and go back on injections. Soe it is
just
> a temporary thing, but for some, it is permenant. I was so surprised by
this
> because I love being on a pump, and I've been on one for 13 years now. I
> would hate to go back to injections.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:21 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Veronica,

>       I'm so sorry to hear this.  I think you should appeal this decision,
> since it is the only pump that is the most accessible for the blind.
After
> 18 years of using Accucheck pumps, I was forced to find another pump when
> Roche decided to stop distributing their pumps in the U.S.  After visiting
> with my diabetic educator, playing with the three available pumps and
> finding the Diabetes Talk site to ask other diabetics who are blind, I
came
> to the conclusion that the Vibe was the best option.  I also use a Dexcom,
> but I don't have it paired with the pump.  I like using the iPhone Share
app
> that allows me to know what my blood sugar is.  Pairing it with the Vibe
> would be useless for me and would mean that I would have to input blood
> sugars in to both the Dexcom and pump to calibrate it twice a day.  I'm
> lucky that my kids are accessible every morning and night to put a blood
> sugar in to the Dexcom, and I didn't find a need to also use the pump for
a
> receiver.  My insurance company did not have any issues with me getting a
> new pump, since my Spirit pump's warranty had expired a year ago.  I did
> have to provide a month's worth of blood sugars showing that I tested at
> least four times aday.  Isn't that crazy?  Anyway, I sure hope you can
> appeal and argue your case for the Vibe.  It really is a shame that
> insurance would keep you from obtaining the only pump that a blind person
> can use with limited sighted assistance.  I'm just two weeks  in to using
my
> Vibe, and I'm still struggling to learn how to do what I used to do so
> easily on my Spirit.  I am fortunate to have two teenagers living with me
to
> help me when it doesn't do what I wanted it to do.  But, I can easily give
> myself a bolus using the audible bolus feature.  Even though the Vibe
> doesn't have audible beeps to let me know that I've depressed a button,
the
> buttons do make a slight click sound once you press them.  So, that part
is
> nice.  It is just learning how to blindly navigate a whole new set of
menus.

> Good luck, and please consider appealing the decision.  You shouldn't have
> to go back  to injections after being on a pump.

>                                 Jamie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> Message: 30
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 19:22:56 -0600
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <00c601d27c29$b88d7f70$29a87e50$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> I think G is like me and does corrections with a sliding scale using the
> touch bolus. Even with my cosmo, I never used the bolus or correction
> wizard. Using the touch bolus has worked fine for both scenarios. But if
you
> prefer a certain feature, you should have the necessary pump that works
for
> you and fits your needs.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:16 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> No, they are not the same. The correction bolus is very different and that
> is important to me. I sat here in my house in December and worked with
both
> pumps. To give a correction bolus on the Ping, you enter your BG manually,
> then the pump shows how much insulin it thinks you need. At that point you
> have to hit the up-arrow key till the number on the display matches.
> Obviously this is out for us. On the Vibe, you enter your BG reading, the
> pump shows what it thinks you need, just as in the Ping. But when you hit
> the up-arrow, it now selects that amount. So we still can't read the
amount
> but we can use the feature if we so choose. And since I so choose, that's
a
> big difference for me. And it's ridiculous to not have what I want because
> everyone else was in too big of a hurry to go to bat for me. Not to
mention,
> having to fight for a pump I don't really want in the first place. <grin>
> But no matter what I do, it now has to go through appeals which are not
> fast. So we'll see what happens. Guess I'm just stubborn and I think I'm
> worth it. <grin> Stay tuned!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Tom Ley via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:39 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: TALey at ups.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi Veronica,

> The Animas Ping and the Animas Vibe are essentially the same in terms of
> giving a bolus as a blind person. I used the Animas Ping for almost a
decade
> prior to getting the Vibe. Now, I didn't use the blood glucose meter that
> came with the Ping, but that did not keep me from using the Ping itself to
> give myself boluses. .

> When I switched from the Ping to the Vibe six months ago, I literally had
> nothing new to learn. So, if the Ping gets approved by your insurance and
> the Vibe won't, I would go that direction. The Animas Ping works 100% the
> same as the Vibe for me as a totally blind pumper.

> Hope this helps.

> Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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> ------------------------------

> Message: 31
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 19:24:24 -0600
> From: "Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter" <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!
> Message-ID: <00c701d27c29$ed1119f0$c7334dd0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

> And I just referred to you as G, Tom, LOL! A slip of the fingers, or
> something.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Tom Ley via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:38 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: TALey at ups.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Veronica,
> My mistake to assume you used the pump the same way I do. I only ever use
> the audio bolus function. Sorry about that. Good luck.
> Tom



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:16 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> No, they are not the same. The correction bolus is very different and that
> is important to me. I sat here in my house in December and worked with
both
> pumps. To give a correction bolus on the Ping, you enter your BG manually,
> then the pump shows how much insulin it thinks you need. At that point you
> have to hit the up-arrow key till the number on the display matches.
> Obviously this is out for us. On the Vibe, you enter your BG reading, the
> pump shows what it thinks you need, just as in the Ping. But when you hit
> the up-arrow, it now selects that amount. So we still can't read the
amount
> but we can use the feature if we so choose. And since I so choose, that's
a
> big difference for me. And it's ridiculous to not have what I want because
> everyone else was in too big of a hurry to go to bat for me. Not to
mention,
> having to fight for a pump I don't really want in the first place. <grin>
> But no matter what I do, it now has to go through appeals which are not
> fast. So we'll see what happens. Guess I'm just stubborn and I think I'm
> worth it. <grin> Stay tuned!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Tom Ley via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:39 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: TALey at ups.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi Veronica,

> The Animas Ping and the Animas Vibe are essentially the same in terms of
> giving a bolus as a blind person. I used the Animas Ping for almost a
decade
> prior to getting the Vibe. Now, I didn't use the blood glucose meter that
> came with the Ping, but that did not keep me from using the Ping itself to
> give myself boluses. .

> When I switched from the Ping to the Vibe six months ago, I literally had
> nothing new to learn. So, if the Ping gets approved by your insurance and
> the Vibe won't, I would go that direction. The Animas Ping works 100% the
> same as the Vibe for me as a totally blind pumper.

> Hope this helps.

> Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:04 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Oh insurance mess!

> Hi everyone!
> I just found out that my insurance company denied coverage for the Animas
> pump. Oops! This is what's wrong when the patient isn't involved in
filling
> out any of the forms. I had tried to get the Vibe and I'm pretty sure that
> they denied the coverage because of the Dexcom half of the pump, which I
> wouldn't need. Hahahaha, you fools, I already have it. But my endo
couldn't
> lift a little finger and say on the forms that I had the Dexcom and wanted
> this pump because it was more useable by me. I can actually kind of do a
> correction bolus on the Vibe, but definitely not on the Ping. And forms
> being returned numerous times drew the process out so that I now have only
a
> couple of cartridges left. Yikes! My endo told me just to go off the pump.
> Yeah right! So now I'm trying to get supplies for my Cozmo and hope that
my
> 50 dollar E-bay wonder hangs in there for awhile. I was really hoping to
do
> the pump switch now, rather than in a couple of months when I'm scheduled
> for a surgery that will mess up my life style for quite awhile. And later
> this week I'm supposed to get a steroid injection which means I'll go
> through my last couple of cartridges faster too.
> Of course, were I sighted none of this would be going on because this
isn't
> the pump I'd be getting. Anyway, I know there isn't anything any of you
can
> do but I appreciate you letting me rant a bit in the hope that I might get
> another idea. But it's multiple factors here. Insurance companies are,
well,
> who they are. Doctors are in a hurry and just fill out forms without
> attention to the person they affect.
> And the other stupid thing, ummm, ahem, this one was mine! Two weeks ago I
> traveled and took my backup pens with me. I accidentally left them in the
> hotel refrigerator. And when I called the hotel, nothing. Oops! So boy am
I
> stuck for now. Let the fun begin. Sheesh!
> Veronica


> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> ????????????????Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407




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