[Diabetes-Talk] Pumps and accessibility

Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter bkpollpeter at gmail.com
Wed Jan 4 04:43:59 UTC 2017


When it comes to diabetes, listen to the diabetes doctor, grin. When A1-C is
lower, it means glucose levels are running lower. Not necessarily low, but
just lower. For most, this is a good thing, especially if type 2.

Hunger can often be curved by drinking lots of water.

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From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d
m gina via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:31 PM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Cc: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pumps and accessibility

I think each doctor says it differently.
My heart doctor says I am doing fine with it and my regular doctor who is
also a diabetic says I am high.
I never ask him what his is loll.
I feel good where it is, I am not hungry.
When it is at six then I do.
O
riginal message:
> My A1-Cs are usually between 6.5 and 7, but during pregnancy, I get 
> them down to 6, even though throughout the pregnancy my blood sugars 
> rise, and we frequently have to make adjustments to my basal rates.

> A1-Cs over 7.5 are pretty high, but it can be a work in progress. 
> Sometimes, to get them in the target range, you have to implement more
changes.

> I love salads year-round, and when pregnant, I crave lettuce salads,
smile.

> I can't handle a lot of carbs. For holiday meals, I tend to bring 
> veggie sides and salads so we have some non-carb choices. I just get 
> tired of every dish being carbs, grin. Sweets are not a huge problem 
> for me either. I'm not a big sweet eater, though I do enjoy certain 
> goodies like cheesecake. Often what I do with treats is to just take a 
> bite from my husband. He doesn't mind. I'm good with just a bite of 
> something most the time, so I can have the pleasure of eating a treat 
> without eating too much, and usually I don't have to bolus when I take
just a bite.

> Whenever you feel like adding another carb choice to a meal, opt for a 
> protein or low-carb veggie. Carbs will raise glucose levels, while 
> proteins help stabilize them. My rule of thumb is to grab for the 
> protein over the carbs.

> Bridgit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:37 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pumps and accessibility

> I rock with the a one c between seven and eight.
> Has nothing to do with having child.
> Glad you are doing well.

> Original message:
>> Yes, me too. My A1-Cs were all over the place, despite my trying. 
>> Then I went on the pump, and they have remained pretty stable and in 
>> a good
> range.
>> In 12 years, the highest A1-C I've had is 7.5.

>> Off topic, but weirdly, when pregnant, I experience the best A1-Cs 
>> ever. Any other mommys experience this? With both my pregnancies, I 
>> have gotten my A1-C way down, usually ending up around 6. Not sure 
>> why this is, smile. My doctors find it interesting too.

>> BTW, seven weeks to go before baby number 2 arrives, smile.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 12:42 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Pumps and accessibility

>> At the risk of one of those dreaded one-word replies on a list, Amen!
>> <grin>

>> Before going on the pump, I spent my first three years as a type 1 
>> with an A1C hovering between 13 and 16. I was already blind before 
>> diagnosis. Within two month of going on my first pump, I had it down 
>> to 7 and I've never looked back. For some reason insulin just never 
>> seemed to obsorb like it was supposed to do. So I'll continue to 
>> fight through the current state of pumps and do the best I can. And 
>> by golly, if sighted people deserve the convenience of having the 
>> pump figure things out, then so do I. <grin> Veronica


>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>> Guide
> Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407



>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 10:33 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Pumps and accessibility

>> While I completely agree with you, Bernie, and it's totally true that 
>> no pump is fully accessible, I do think the comments made to Jamie 
>> were not that a blind user can use the pump never requiring sighted 
>> assistance, just that blind users do use their product, and are 
>> experiencing success managing their diabetes.

>> I will say that the only time I require sighted assistance for my 
>> pump (and for what it's worth, I'm totally blind) is when adjusting 
>> basal rates, and that only happens maybe quarterly, and that's based on
me.
>> For other diabetics, basal adjustments could happen more or less 
>> frequently, but for me, so far, this is the only assistance I have 
>> with my
> pump.

>> Wait, I do prefer to have sighted help filling cartridges. I do it on 
>> my own if need be, but I do prefer sighted help. I know Veronica 
>> fills her cartridges on her own though. I will have someone fill 
>> about a month's worth of cartridges for me at a time though. And for 
>> me, a cartridge last about a week.

>> It's ultimately a personal choice to use a pump or not. Some have 
>> found the benefits immense, others, not so much. Some start on a pump 
>> and eventually go off it, not enjoying it as much as they originally 
>> thought. For me, the pump has given me the best control over my 
>> diabetes ever. I've been type 1 diabetic for 31 years now and using a 
>> pump for 12 years. I started using a pump after I lost my sight. I 
>> love the insulin pump, and it has helped me better manage my diabetes.
>> My husband is blind, and I do not have sighted assistance whenever I 
>> need it. So accessibility is important and crucial for me, like most 
>> of us. Despite the lack of accessibility that should not be so 
>> difficult to implement on a pump, I have made it work for several 
>> years
> now and I don't often require sighted assistance.

>> I know this discussion goes round and round, but I feel like there 
>> has to be something we can do as a collective to make accessibility 
>> in medical devices more of an important issue than it is. Not sure 
>> what answers exist, and I'm sure it will take a lot of hard work, but 
>> it seems we need to be more proactive as a group to make 
>> accessibility in the forefront for manufacturers.

>> Okay, my rant for the day, grin.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 8:50 AM
>> To: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>; Diabetes Talk for the 
>> Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Your new president...

>> Jamie, my friend.

>> Don't let any foolish pump wrap tell you that other blind people are 
>> using their pumps successfully and independently. There is not one 
>> totally accessible pump out there! And that's a fact! Even Veronica 
>> and Bridget and other blind pump you service out here will tell you 
>> the very same thing. My doctor has been wanting me to use a pump for 
>> years and years. Haven't found One that's totally and completely
> accessible yet. My husband agrees with me.
>> He tells me the same thing. He says, honey there's not one accessible 
>> pump out there and I don't want you to go on a pump until there is.
>> We may have to bite the bullet at some point, however. And when I do, 
>> the first thing I will do is post right here. You, my friend, are in 
>> touch with the best. So, still, don't let anycompany's pump REP Tell 
>> you that other blind folks are using their products successfully.
>> Because there's not one of us out here The can't do something without 
>> sighted assistance. And that's a fact. Have a great day!!

>> Bern



>> Sent from my iPhone

>>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Jamie Gurganus 
>>> <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
>> wrote:

>>> Veronica,

>>> I am a new subscriber to this site and found it while searching for 
>>> other diabetics who are blind and use insulin pumps.  Much like you, 
>>> I have been independently using an insulin pump for 18 years.  I am 
>>> currently using the Accucheck Spirit, but Roche suddenly chose to 
>>> not sell any of their Accucheck pumps any more.  And, like your 
>>> Cosmo, my Spirit has about a month left before completely shutting down
on me.
>>> I did visit my Diabetic Educator and looked at the options for pumps.
>>> I also decided that the Animas products would be the best, although 
>>> not
>> the perfect solution for me.
>>> I also use the Dexcom G5, which my two teenagers help me use.  Even 
>>> though it is inaccessible to me, I need to use it to help me detect 
>>> my llow blood sugars.  I use my iPhone to know what my blood sugar 
>>> is when it
>> alarms me.

>>> So, you and I are going to be learning how to use the Vibe together!
>>> It will be a true test of how well I can memorize things at my age!
>>> I hope that we can keep in  touch and share our experiences of how 
>>> we are conquering our new pumps!  The Animas rep assures me that 
>>> they have other individuals who are blind or visually impaired and 
>>> successfully using their pumps.  However, he could not tell me how I 
>>> could contact these people.  I am hoping to find help through 
>>> Diabetes
>> Talk.

>>>                Jamie



>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:15 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Your new president...

>>> Thanks Veronica!!!

>>> I certainly have to say, you and Bridgit have both taught me so very
> much.
>>> I can't imagine myself using a KNFB reader for something like that.
>>> Although I do love my KNFB reader, it doesn't come without its 
>>> limitations either.  And, believe me I had to practice using it to 
>>> make it
>> work for me.
>>> I'm not perfect yet.  I can use it to read some of my mail and the kids'
>>> notices they bring home in their bookbags.
>>> But, I'm not sure I'd attempt to use it fore reading an insulin pump?
>>> I think I'd rather have something a bit more fool-proof.  I'm not 
>>> that brave.  Especially when my survival is at stake.  Scary.

>>> Talk soon my friend and thank you so much for your vote of confidence.
>>> This means a lot.

>>> Bern

>>> On 1/2/17, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk 
>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Bern, I echo the bitter-sweet congratulations. I assure you that we 
>>>> do not expect you to be Mike. <grin> I look forward to seeing how 
>>>> this list and organization will grow under your leadership. And 
>>>> yes, a definite group effort.
>>>> I also look forward to seeing what the new technology will do. In 
>>>> the meantime, I am checking out the current pumps as my beloved 
>>>> Cozmo finally shrieked out its last system fault alarm. Yikes!
>>>> Someone here mentioned awhile back that there was a blind person 
>>>> using an OmniPod with some sort of app. I found out that he was 
>>>> actually using a KNFB reader to try and read the screen. I'll 
>>>> probably end up with the Animas Vibe but I'm struggling to get 
>>>> around that notion of how much I'm losing compared to what I had.
>>>> As for the artificial pancreas, I hope the technology it's based on 
>>>> is more accurate than what we have now. Eventually it would be nice 
>>>> to have to interact less with stuff, but I'm not so sure I want to 
>>>> be in the first round. <grin> Never say never though.
>>>> In the meantime, boy do I appreciate having a place to share 
>>>> knowledge, to vent, to brag, to whine and to help each other. I 
>>>> really do appreciate all of you and look forward to accomplishing 
>>>> as much as we
>>> can together.
>>>> Onward,
>>>> onward! Count me in!
>>>> Veronica


>>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now 
>>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the 
>>>> Guide Dog Glee Club.
>>>> To learn more, visit:
>>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs 
>>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>>> Phone: 831-429-6407



>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:45 AM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Your new president...

>>>> Oh Bridgit!

>>>> Thank you so kindly for your vote of confidence!! You're like a 
>>>> breath of fresh air!

>>>> Only trouble is, for Medicare patients, I think that these things 
>>>> are so hard, as a matter of fact, too hard to get. You shouldn't 
>>>> have to go through denials and appeals and denials and appeals. Too 
>>>> bad the system is so broken!! We should not have to fight this hard 
>>>> to survive. Just makes me sick!! However, I will be anxious to hear 
>>>> more about the artificial pancreas.  I'm always anxious to hear 
>>>> more when it comes. Talk very soon.

>>>> Bern



>>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>>> On Jan 2, 2017, at 9:50 AM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via 
>>>>> Diabetes-Talk
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Bernie,

>>>>> Congrats, even though it's a bittersweet congratulations. You will 
>>>>> do a fantastic job.

>>>>> On a sidenote, speaking of sharing and learning from each other, I 
>>>>> just
>>>> want
>>>>> to say that my doctor continues to bring up the artificial 
>>>>> pancreas and
>>>> how
>>>>> it will be available on the market within the year to all diabetics.
>>>>> He believes this will revolutionize diabetes even more than 
>>>>> insulin pumps
>>>> have.
>>>>> He's eager and excited for the technology and for me to have the
>>>> opportunity
>>>>> to transition to one. Of course, I'm concerned about 
>>>>> accessibility, but nonetheless, this is exciting news, and I'm 
>>>>> sure many of us are excited about this technology.

>>>>> The device will use a CGM to constantly monitor blood sugars. As 
>>>>> it does this, it will automatically adjust insulin as needed. 
>>>>> Little interaction will be necessary for the device.

>>>>> More info about this is available online, but as I learn more, I 
>>>>> will continue to share.

>>>>> Happy New Year; may 2017 be fruitful for everyone.

>>>>> Bridgit

>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 1:26 PM
>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Your new president...

>>>>> Good Afternoon Everyone!!!

>>>>> Happy New Year!!!

>>>>> Firstly, I'd like to begin by telling you a little bit about 
>>>>> myself for those of you who don't know me.  I'm aware, however 
>>>>> that most of you
>>> do.
>>>> I
>>>>> am Bernadette Jacobs, formerly, about 18 years ago, Bernadette
>> Krajewski.
>>>> I
>>>>> have been first vice-president now since, I believe, about 2007.
>>>>> Don't hesitate to correct me if somebody out there finds me to be 
>>>>> wrong.  At any rate, I did have a one-year break while Sandy Ryan 
>>>>> served just last year--2015-2016.  Thank you Sandy.
>>>>> Since the unfortunate passing of our illustrious and fearless 
>>>>> leader Mike Freeman's passing, I will do my best to serve you as 
>>>>> our Diabetes Action Network's president and your list moderator.

>>>>> I will warn you.  I can't do this all alone, however.  I need all 
>>>>> of you
>>>> to
>>>>> work with me and teach me as you have done about our conditions 
>>>>> for the
>>>> past
>>>>> so many years.  Most of what I have learned about my own diabetes, 
>>>>> I've learned from all of you.  You've been so gracious.  But 
>>>>> that's what we're
>>>> in
>>>>> this thing for.  Right????  Helping each other and taking care of 
>>>>> each other.  So, I'd like to say, Welcome home and Happy New Year!!!

>>>>> I was diagnosed as a type II diabetic in about March of 1985.  
>>>>> This, of course, was before the age of "pre-diabetes."  I have 
>>>>> been insulin
>>>> dependent
>>>>> since 1999 when My husband Bill and I were first married and I 
>>>>> became pregnant with the baby we lost in miscarriage.  I have been 
>>>>> a member of
>>>> the
>>>>> Diabetes Action Network, (DAN) since its inception in 1985.

>>>>> My mother was a diabetic and I lost my mother to complications of 
>>>>> diabetes at the tender age of 13.  She, herself was only 47.  She 
>>>>> had three heart attacks, the third of which, resulted in her 
>>>>> passing.  I remember it as if were Yesterday.  When I came into 
>>>>> DAN, I told it's then president, Ed Bryant, that my mother was a 
>>>>> diabetic and died of complications.  He gave
>>>> me
>>>>> that gentle kick in the seat of the pants, "And you are diabetic
> too..."
>>>> Of
>>>>> course, he also recognized I was in that old familiar river,
> "Denial???"
>>>> Ed
>>>>> Bryant, the gentle man he was, took me under his fatherly wing and 
>>>>> we
>>>> worked
>>>>> together up until his passing.  Mike came in and we all continued on.
>>>>> I must say, that his passing on December 24, shocked and deeply 
>>>>> saddened me just as it has everyone else.

>>>>> Now, everyone, I'd like to take this time to thank you!!  For, 
>>>>> it's all of you who've taught me so much about the conditions that 
>>>>> we share together.
>>>>> Taught me about insulin pumps, complications, and the heartaches 
>>>>> we've suffered together as well as foo the positive bits of news.
>>>>> There are so many of you that I simply can't wait to hear about 
>>>>> something new you've learned, discovered and/or whatever else.  It 
>>>>> simply warms my heart to the moon and back to hear from you as I 
>>>>> feel like we're such a great big
>>>> family.
>>>>> Isn't it wonderful???  I think it's phantabulous!!!  SQUEEEEEZE!!!!!
>>>>> i DO hope that all of you will continue to write in with all your 
>>>>> things, both good and bad so that we can all continue to share, 
>>>>> learn, and work
>>>> together.
>>>>> I'll miss you if you don't!!

>>>>> Until next time, take care and have a great day!!!

>>>>> Below, I'll be posting my Email, so that you can write me offlist 
>>>>> for anything strictly confidential you might need help with.  I 
>>>>> will then
>>>> share
>>>>> my cell phone with you that we may continue our work together.

>>>>> Very Warmly,

>>>>> Bernadette M. Jacobs, (Bernie, Bern).

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