[Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Veronica Elsea veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com
Sat Apr 29 02:28:26 UTC 2023 

The main reason Omnipod came out as an Android first is that two of their existing units were based on Android phones already. For their receivers were actual Android phones with the phone part removed. I tried very hard to start a project in 2017 to get Google Health to work with them, put part of the phone back in, so the TalkBack module could be installed. But allas, that didn't happen, or you would have known about it. The people at Insulet told me that they were having to work hard to switch architecture and get approvals.


-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 6:41 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update

Gary,

There you go blaming Apple again. You just went on a rant arguing with Veronica, about bias in the blind world. Apple VS. Android. I actually have been told it’s not a hold up with Apple, it’s an FDA hold up with the app. They also have to rework the back end of the app so it’s compatible with the Apple notification system and many other basic operating system requirements. The reason it was on the Samsung’s devices first was because it was created for a very locked down Samsung handset, from what I can tell could be from the early 2000’s. I’m glad that they are working towards getting it on Apple devices, but your statement about it being an Apple issue is completely wrong.

Ed


> On Apr 27, 2023, at 11:47 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Honestly don’t know.  Its  based on stupid apple  app policies.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:39 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
> How long will I have to wait before we get it on the apple?
> Dar
> Original message:
>> Right. I have found some of the rough edges you are referring to. They 
>> are honestly not a big deal to me. That’s why I jumped into the 
>> Android world to use this pump, and now that Insulet is working on 
>> accessibility with suggestions from the visually impaired community, 
>> it’s becoming a  great platform, and I’m glad I jumped in with both feet.
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2023, at 10:43 AM, <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> 
>>> <gmelconian619 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Ed, there are some rough edges, but they can be smoothened out with 
>>> some work. Android is never  going  to  be apple but the 
>>> accessibility team at android do there best to  make it a close to 
>>> apple  experience for apple users wanting to  use or need android for 
>>> specific use cases.they are now working on fixing a lot of braille  
>>> and braille display issues  in talk back.
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:16 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>; gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>> Hello All,
> 
>>> Thanks for posting that link Gary. The Talkback screen reader is 
>>> really close to Voiceover now. The only issues that I had with 
>>> Talkback actually was because of the 1 U I interface/launcher. I 
>>> installed the Microsoft Launcher and it gave the grid pattern just 
>>> like iOS, this makes it easier to customize the interface. This 
>>> launcher also allowed me to easily hide the apps I didn’t need, or 
>>> will never use. I also installed the G-Board keyboard made by Google 
>>> and now the typing experience is much better and far less 
>>> touchy/jumpy. The Samsung on screen keyboard is awful, and the Google keyboard is much more manageable.
> 
>>> My recommendation is go for it, if you are even the slightest bit 
>>> curious about the system. Nothing says that you can’t switch to the 
>>> iPhone app if/when it is finally released. I am actually thinking 
>>> that I will stick with the Android set up when the iPhone app comes 
>>> out, as I like the idea of leaving my actual phone behind so people 
>>> can not reach me or bug me. I did this for the first time the other 
>>> day and it was amazing!
> 
>>> Ed
> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 11:36 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> When you start up talk back for the first time  there is a  big 
>>>> lengthy tutorial that you go through with all the features of talk 
>>>> back, and you can go through that  multiple times  in the talk back
>>>> setttings.     But will post the info here .
> 
>>>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/6151827?hl=e
>>>> n
> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:28 PM
>>>> To: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>> Cc: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>> A lot of people might find that valuable. Thanks.
> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:25 PM, gmelconian619 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
>>>>> Yes with android 12 and above, they are the same as voice over 
>>>>> jestures,  do you want me to  find the page for that  for talk back 
>>>>> jestures  and post link to the group as I do use both I  OS and 
>>>>> android and both screen readers voice over on I OS and talkback on 
>>>>> android  for different situations.
> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Patricia Maddix via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 10:20 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Patricia Maddix <pmaddix at comcast.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>> Gary,
>>>>> So are you saying that the Talkback gestures are now the same as 
>>>>> the voiceover gestures?
>>>>> Patricia.
> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> Veronica,
> 
>>>>>> I couldn't wait for the iPhone release, so I bought a used Galaxy 
>>>>>> 10E, the least expensive supported Android phone for the app.  I 
>>>>>> found it on Swappa.com for only $145.  I only use that phone for the Omnipod app.
>>>>>> I don't even have a sim card in it.  I use my iPhone for the 
>>>>>> Dexcom and everything else, since Talk Back really is too 
>>>>>> frustrating to use when typing.  Plus, the Bixby (Android's 
>>>>>> version of Siri) does not work with Talk Back.
> 
>>>>>> If they don't come out with the iPhone app soon, I'd recommend 
>>>>>> doing what I did.  It is so worth it, and I know you will manage 
>>>>>> it just fine.  Look what you do now to run the totally inaccessible Omnipod!
> 
>>>>>>        Jamie
> 
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:49 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> Veronica, not that hard to learn . the screenreader  jestures are now 
>>>>>> the same . so not a hard learning curve if one wants to   learn.i would 
>>>>>> go with Samsung devices.   As all these health related apps work the 
>>>>>> best with Samsung devices .
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:35 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> I've always thought Insulet was extremely receptive. Holding out 
>>>>>> my greedy hand for that iPhone version. Hahahaha! If it doesn't 
>>>>>> come out soon, I might get past my laziness and think about learning TalkBack.
>>>>>> But if I can hang on long enough, well, no idea how much of the 
>>>>>> accessibility changes in the Android app will translate into 
>>>>>> iPhone accessibility. But hey, that pipe dream is alive and well. 
>>>>>> <grin> Thanks for the update, Ed.
>>>>>> Veronica
> 
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>>> gary via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:27 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Mary Davis' <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>; 'Diabetes Talk
>>>>>> for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> I do agree with this post.
> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Mary Davis <mdavisforalternatives at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 1:25 PM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: gmelconian619 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>> This sounds incredibly awesome, Ed :-) Thanks so much for sharing
>>>>>> and thanks for your hard work!
>>>>>> I’m very excited to see If the accessibility continues.
>>>>>> Mary
> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 2:41 PM, gary via Diabetes-Talk 
>>>>>>>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> Thanks very much.
> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Ed Worrell via Diabetes-Talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:27 AM
>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Ed Worrell <ntnmprt at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] OmniPod 5 update
> 
>>>>>>> Hello Listers,
> 
>>>>>>> I am proud to let you all know that there was a giant update on the
>>>>>>> OmniPod
>>>>>>> 5 application for Android/Samsung devices. I have been working with
>>>>>>> a few people in the Insulet camp, for roughly 5months or so, to
>>>>>>> improve accessibility for blind and visually impaired diabetics.
>>>>>>> First off, I have no information on the release of the iPhone
>>>>>>> application, all I have been told is hopefully by the end of the 2nd 
>>>>>>> quarter. On to the good news!
>>>>>>> 1. Talkback users can now access every single setting on the
>>>>>>> OmniPod!!! This means that we can now independently adjust, carb
>>>>>>> correction factors, insulin correction factors, bolas programs, target 
>>>>>>> glucose, correct above factor.
>>>>>>> Every. Single. Setting!
>>>>>>> 2. We can also now set the activity mode. This means we can
>>>>>>> exercise without the added fear of running low. With this setting
>>>>>>> we can set a workout time for 1 to 24 hours. I have seen many
>>>>>>> people use this to avoid night time lows.
> 
>>>>>>> There is still a few things that need to be fixed.
>>>>>>> 1. The pod info tab is still not read by talkback, but I have been
>>>>>>> told this is in the works. As the developers have to redesign the
>>>>>>> tab for accessibility reasons.
>>>>>>> 2. Some images are not read properly on the main screen of the app.
>>>>>>> I.e. The trend arrow, Talkback reads the file structure name and
>>>>>>> not the trend, such as constant, slowly following, slowly rising, etc.
>>>>>>> 3. Talkback reads the name of the file for the Mode indicator icon
>>>>>>> at the top of the screen, instead of an alt tag.
>>>>>>> I.e. automatic mode, limited mode, or manual mode.
> 
> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
> 
>>>>>>> Ed Worrell
> 
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