[Dtb-talk] issues with using victor stream

tim karen tkaren at san.rr.com
Wed Nov 5 23:25:27 UTC 2008 

If anyone who purchased a victor reader stream wants to sell it at a 
discount, I would be interested.  The price of the retail version is a 
bit high for my tastes.

Tim Karen



Jim Barbour wrote:
> Hey Fred,
>
> So, I think this is why the cartridge solution exists.  People who aren't
> computer literate, and just want to read books, won't be happy in this
> beta project.  They'll be much happier using the NLS cartridge
> solution.  They'll trade the convenience of getting their books
> quickly, for the convenience of getting their books without having to
> touch a computer.
>
> I'm of two minds about making the current process 'easier" via
> better automation or documentation.
>
> On one hand, making this process easier would allow NLS to open the
> door to more people who wish to download books, which would presumably
> mean they'd need fewer people to load and mail cartridges.
>
> On the other hand, lowering the barrier to entry will, no doubt,
> generate a substantially larger customer support load for NLS.
>
> So, the question is, can NLS support more users by loading books onto
> cartridges for them, or by supporting users as they learn to use the
> computer, USB ports, screen reader, web browser, windows explorer,
> etc.
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:55:13AM -0500, Fred Wurtzel wrote:
>   
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> It is probably a reflection on my lack of teaching skills, but I encounter
>> some  people who cannot easily grasp the complicated relations between the
>> internet, Windows file management, unpacking or unzipping the book and the
>> Victor file management structure.  You and I understand this because we have
>> been doing it for years and have some aptitude or geekish interest in this
>> stuff.  Some people, believe it or not, have little interest in the arcane
>> process of computer systems and only want to listen to a book.  They have
>> spent $300 on the Stream and are frustrated because they are having
>> difficulty using it.  They sometimes feel humiliated by their difficulty,
>> which is not, in my opinion, their fault.  
>>
>> I would welcome a better way to present the technology that would work for
>> people who are frustrated.  I am trying and feeling bad that I cannot always
>> succeed.  As I said earlier, it is probably my lack of teaching skill, not
>> the student.  All suggestions are welcome, jeering or not, but beware, I
>> bruise easily.  (smile)
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:45 AM
>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] issues with using victor stream
>>
>> With respect, I gently disagree with you; it isn't that hard.
>>
>> That being said, if you download and install the Stream Companion 
>> software, it's a bit easier.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:57 AM
>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] issues with using victor stream
>>
>>
>> Hi all, I had used my victor stream in the beginning, but have stopped 
>> for a
>> few months.  Only because I had such a hard time downloading and 
>> unzipping
>> files, it was very complicated.  Has this since been easier to do. I use 
>> the
>> stream for other things, but to download books was a big headache even 
>> when
>> I contacted humanware, it was still rediculous.
>>
>> Cheryl Echevarria
>> Treasurer
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> Greater Long Island Chapter
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "louie" <louiemost at wavecable.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] New version of Olearia
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Greg,
>>> Will you let us know when we can get the program when it is out of 
>>> beta?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> We continue to make new beta versions of Olearia. The latest ada
>>>> preference option to open the last book played when you start
>>>> Olearia. It also fixes a few bugs as well.
>>>>
>>>> I will be working on some method of installing my launch script
>>>> unless someone at Apple can tell be a better way to do launching of
>>>> applications on disk insert.
>>>>
>>>> Olearia is a free, open source  DAISY digital talking book player
>>>> for Macintosh computers running MacOS X 10.5 or better. it can be
>>>> found at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia
>>>>
>>>> as well as MacUpdates and Google Code which also has the source code
>>>> for download.
>>>>
>>>> Greg Kearney
>>>> Curtin University Centre for Accessible Technology
>>>> www.cucat.org
>>>>
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