[Dtb-talk] issues with using victor stream

Thu Nov 6 00:24:30 UTC 2008

Hi, Fred - I would be interested in looking at the attachment you offered the listserv on how to use the Stream. I work in Wyoming and convert books for students with disabilities in K-12 settings and I'm not always successful in putting files on the media card in the right files. I couldn't open your attachment because I'm using a Mac. Would you please save it in .rtf format so I can open it?

I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Kathy McWhorter
NIMAS Coordinator
Wyoming Institute for Disabilities
Laramie, Wyoming

-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Wurtzel [mailto:f.wurtzel at comcast.net]
Sent: Wed 11/5/2008 9:08 AM
To: 'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] issues with using victor stream

Hi Jim,

I was reluctant to post the list here since It is slightly off topic and a
little long.  Plus, I have thin skin and cry easily when people jeer.
(smile)

I will attach the file here.  I did not write this for publication, so has
some minor errors in numbering, but the steps seem ok.

Thanks for your help.

Best Regards,

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Barbour
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:59 PM
To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] issues with using victor stream

Hey Fred, if you find the list of steps, can you post it here?

Its likely there will be some jeering and such from some of us, but
its also likely we can streamline the instructions.

So far, all the posted instructions on this thread are missing many
steps, because they assume a great deal of MS Windows knowledge.

If someone has truely written down all the steps, we should try and
turn that into real documentation.

I also agree that the new companion software will help.

Jim

On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 06:02:11PM -0500, Fred Wurtzel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Well, I wrote them all down from logging on to NlS to pushing the play
> button on the Stream.  I will look, but my memory is around 53 steps.  I
was
> also amazed.  I have not learned to use the new Companion software.  This
> may save a few steps, but it is still complicated, especially to people
who
> are not as agile at the use of such devices.
> 
> I promise, I am not making this up.
> 
> Warm Regards,
> 
> Fred
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Ray Foret jr
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:51 PM
> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] issues with using victor stream
> 
> Fifty steps?  I beg to differ.  I do it all the time and it's not fifty 
> steps at all.  See my earlier message detailing how I do it.
> 
> Very much not a fifty step process.
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
> Phone:
> 985-360-3375
> e-mail:
> rforetjratcomcastdotnet
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] issues with using victor stream
> 
> 
> yes I saw it at our NY State Convention this weekend, very big item.  Even
> the person from the Library system said it was very confusing.
> 
> Cheryl Echevarria
> Treasurer
> National Federation of the Blind
> Greater Long Island Chapter
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at comcast.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] issues with using victor stream
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > No, there has not been any improvement.  You are right, it is
complicated,
> > around 50 steps, as i wrote them out for a friend who I was trying to
> > teach.
> > I think this process needs more automation.
> >
> > The Victor Stream is quite a nice device, though the Book Port was much
> > easier to use.  I love the downloaded books.  There are a number of
people
> > who will never be able to use the download site with Victor Reader as
they
> > are presently configured to work.  Fortunately, the Library system is
very
> > simple, even simpler than cassettes.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
> > Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:58 PM
> > To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
> > Subject: [Dtb-talk] issues with using victor stream
> >
> > Hi all, I had used my victor stream in the beginning, but have stopped
for
> > a
> >
> > few months.  Only because I had such a hard time downloading and
unzipping
> > files, it was very complicated.  Has this since been easier to do. I use
> > the
> >
> > stream for other things, but to download books was a big headache even
> > when
> > I contacted humanware, it was still rediculous.
> >
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > Treasurer
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > Greater Long Island Chapter
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "louie" <louiemost at wavecable.com>
> > To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] New version of Olearia
> >
> >
> > > Greg,
> > > Will you let us know when we can get the program when it is out of
beta?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
> > >
> > > > We continue to make new beta versions of Olearia. The latest ada
> > > > preference option to open the last book played when you start
> > > > Olearia. It also fixes a few bugs as well.
> > > >
> > > > I will be working on some method of installing my launch script
> > > > unless someone at Apple can tell be a better way to do launching of
> > > > applications on disk insert.
> > > >
> > > > Olearia is a free, open source  DAISY digital talking book player
> > > > for Macintosh computers running MacOS X 10.5 or better. it can be
> > > > found at:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia
> > > >
> > > > as well as MacUpdates and Google Code which also has the source code
> > > > for download.
> > > >
> > > > Greg Kearney
> > > > Curtin University Centre for Accessible Technology
> > > > www.cucat.org
> > > >
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