[Dtb-talk] [macvoiceover] Re: Olearia first public release(version 0.90b)

Wed Oct 29 04:00:20 UTC 2008

Simple.  You're overlooking the fact that the NLS program was set up for the 
blind; not for sighted people to use.  Here's another fact for you.  These 
books (or rather I should say the talking book versions of them) do belong 
to NLS; which, as you very well know, is an arm of the United states 
Government.  The NlS has a perfect right to protect access to their 
productions.  The public can always use such services as:
www.audible.com
to get their audio books.  I use it myself.  The reason NLS has such a right 
to protect the recordings they produce is that
1.  Most of the books they record are still in copy right.

2.  Even if a book or set of recordings is not held by copy right, there may 
still be restrictions placed on how those recordings are used.

    It is principally the legal question of copy right which gives NLS the 
right to restrict access to the material they produce.  Just because you, or 
I or f(or for that matter anyone else) is a tax paying member of the public, 
that does not give us the right to just take what NLS does and use it for 
hour own purposes.  You need to understand that when the program was set up, 
the copy right laws were not as lenient as they are nowadays as a 
consequence of the copy right act of 1996.  The holders of the copy rights 
to the books gave their permission to NLS (it was then known as "The 
Division for the blind and physically handicapped of the Library of 
Congress" in those days) on the understanding that only the blind would have 
access to and be able to use the books.

Sincerely,
The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Kearney" <gkearney at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] [macvoiceover] Re: Olearia first public 
release(version 0.90b)

They are not he NLS's books they are the property of the people of the
United States who paid for them to be produced. An interesting
question is this, why can not the public get copies of out of
copyright books recorded by the NLS? For example the works of Mark
Twain are no longer under copyright what is the justification for
restricting access to the NLS recordings of such works?

In Western Australia wel are developing a library which has both
restricted content for the disabled and public out of copyright which
anyone can access. This approach seems to be unique in the world as
far as we can tell.

Every citizen of a liberal democracy has a right, and to some degree a
duty, to communicate their concerns to their elected representatives.

Greg Kearney
Curtin University Centre for Accessible Technology
www.cucat.org

On Oct 28, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Randy Stegall wrote:

> Why not, Congress oversees NLS, doesn't it?  Isn't that one of the
> things we pay them to do through our taxes?
>
> Randy
> On Oct 28, 2008, at 7:00 PM, David Andrews wrote:
>
>> I would urge people not to contact Congress.  They have more
>> important things to worry about, like saving the country.  And ...
>> they are NLS's books and they can decide how the books should be
>> accessed.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>       At 04:09 PM 10/28/2008, you wrote:
>>> An important note: Olearia, and for that matter no other software
>>> based player, can not play NLS books. THis is due to the NLS
>>> refusing
>>> to approve software players to have access to their encryption.
>>>
>>> We are working with RFB&D to be able to ply their encrypted books
>>> and
>>> expect a solution to that soon.
>>>
>>> If you are bothered by the NLS restriction on playback of their
>>> books
>>> I would urge you to contact your representatives in congress.
>>>
>>> Greg Kearney
>>> Curtin University Centre for Accessible Technology
>>> www.cucat.org
>>>
>>> On Oct 28, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Dave Hunt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which format are the DTBs from the NLS Digital program, and does
>>>> this program play them?  I normally play them on my Icon, but would
>>>> play them on this machine if that were an option.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 28, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Greg.  It plays any of the dtbs I have tried so far.  Keep
>>>>> up the good work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Randy
>>>>> On Oct 28, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Olearia is a DAISY digital talking book player for the Macintosh
>>>>>> computer platform. Olearia will play DAISY version 2.02 and
>>>>>> DAISY/ NISO 2005 digital talking book. This version 0.90b will
>>>>>> play audio
>>>>>> only and full text full audio books. The final version of Olearia
>>>>>> will support text only DAISY books as well. Olearia supports
>>>>>> VoiceOver. Olearia requires MacOS X version 10.5 or better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Olearia is free open source software and  can be downloaded
>>>>>> from http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia  Source code can be
>>>>>> downloaded from: http://code.google.com/p/olearia/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg Kearney
>>>>>> Curtin University Centre for Accessible Technology
>>>>>> www.cucat.org
>>>>>>
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