[Dtb-talk] converting Victor Reader Stream Note files

Sat Feb 20 20:25:43 UTC 2010

I was just saying that most of us can not afford them, rehab gets this stuff 
most of the time.
I wasn't bitching about the companies, you are not forced to buy this stuff, 
I was only saying that all this cool stuff that they have out for the blind, 
most people can not get it.
Like the trekker, I'm a really good traveler, the trekker would really help 
me go anywehere I need by my self, but it's like 1600 bucks, tell me how 
many blind people has that kind of money.
But as they get more companies do them the price will go down.
So don't miss understand me man, I know how that stuff works, I was just 
saying that most of us can not afford this cool stuff.
good day to you.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>; <0 at barcore.com>; <241 at barcore.com>; 
<0c at barcore.com>
To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] converting Victor Reader Stream Note files


> Dewey, I'm not sure I understand your objection.
>
> As with all economic endevers, a company will build what it can sell.
> That is, if a product is so expensive that a company won't have any
> buyers, then it won't build the product.
>
> This is true for the stream, the KNFB reader, and for that matter the
> original $50k reading machine.
>
> Since both knfb reading technologies and Humanware seem to be
> selling their products, there must be plenty of people who are finding
> the resources to buy them.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:56:31AM -0600, Dewey Bradley wrote:
>> That's good that it has came down in price by 50 bucks.
>> I guess that's not allot for such a device, but if people don't have
>> the money, they can't buy it.
>> It's just like the KNFB reader.
>> It would be a really cool thing to have, but I don't have the money for 
>> it.
>> You get what you pay for, but still these companies should think
>> about the fact that the people they service just don't have that
>> kind of money.
>> Some people do though, and I'm happy for them, they have made it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Evans"
>> <evans-lynn at comcast.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] converting Victor Reader Stream Note files
>>
>>
>> >the price for the stream is $329 + tax + S&H so it is closer to $350
>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Dewey Bradley"
>> ><dewey.bradley at mchsi.com>
>> >To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:29 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] converting Victor Reader Stream Note files
>> >
>> >
>> >>That sucks because most of us can not buy something like that, I
>> >>know I would not have one if the state didn't lone them out.
>> >>The last time I checked they were about 400 bucks witch most
>> >>blind people can't afford.
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman"
>> >><k7uij at panix.com>
>> >>To: <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:12 PM
>> >>Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] converting Victor Reader Stream Note files
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>The Washington (state) Talking Book and Braille Library does not.
>> >>>
>> >>>Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at mchsi.com>
>> >>>To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>Date: Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 22:22:46
>> >>>Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] converting Victor Reader Stream Note files
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I agree, the stream is one of the best things that has been
>> >>>>made for blind
>> >>>>people in years.
>> >>>>I'm guessing that you folks know that you can go to blind
>> >>>>mice mart and get
>> >>>>DVS movies and play them on your stream.
>> >>>>I'm also wondering if other states library lones you a
>> >>>>stream like they do
>> >>>>here in Missouri?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Grover Zinn"
>> >>>><grover.zinn at oberlin.edu>
>> >>>>To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:22 PM
>> >>>>Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] converting Victor Reader Stream Note files
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks to all for the responses.  Now I understand the
>> >>>>reason for . > 3gp!
>> >>>>> (I'm always in favor of better audio) Thanks.  And with
>> >>>>Greg's > comments,
>> >>>>> I will look forward to the implementation of wav and mp3 on  the VR
>> >>>>> Stream.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The VR Stream is an amazing device (hardware and software). It has
>> >>>>> allowed my wife to continue to "read" at the same great
>> >>>>pace after > losing
>> >>>>> her sight ca. 2 years ago.  The notes are her rather full
>> >>>>"reviews" > of
>> >>>>> each book she reads---for about 40 years they went into
>> >>>>notebooks. > Now
>> >>>>> they go into audio files.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> best
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Grover
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Grover Zinn
>> >>>>> William H. Danforth Professor of Religion, emeritus
>> >>>>> former Associate Dean, College of Arts and Sciences
>> >>>>> Oberlin College
>> >>>>> Oberlin, OH 44074
>> >>>>> grover.zinn at oberlin.edu
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Mike Freeman wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>ar Grover:
>> >>>>>ar
>> >>>>>ar .3gp files have better compression with decent audio.
>> >>>>>ar
>> >>>>>ar Mike
>> >>>>>ar
>> >>>>>ar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grover Zinn"
>> >>>>><grover.zinn at oberlin.edu
>> >>>>>ar >
>> >>>>>ar To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>ar Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:53 PM
>> >>>>>ar Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] converting Victor Reader Stream Note 
>> >>>>>files
>> >>>>>ar
>> >>>>>ar
>> >>>>>>> I assume you mean that at some point Humanware will
>> >>>>realize that >>> WAV
>> >>>>>>> or MP3 would be good formats.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Why use .3gp to begin with (unless there is a
>> >>>>proprietary thing >>> going
>> >>>>>>> on here; I just discovered via a conversion program that  the 
>> >>>>>>> .3gp
>> >>>>>>> files in the notes folder appear as drm protected files;
>> >>>>>>> interesting
>> >>>>>>> that the user cannot manipulate the files that the  user has
>> >>>>>>> created.......)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Off of the wheel of asking "why...."
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Do you know of a Mac-friendly program that might convert
>> >>>>.3gp to >>> mp3??
>> >>>>>>> (I can always feed the notes into an audio recording
>> >>>>program  on >>> the
>> >>>>>>> Mac, but that would be a "bit" time-consuming for over 100 
>> >>>>>>> lengthy
>> >>>>>>> notes (and the number is growing).
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> best
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Grover Z
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Grover Zinn
>> >>>>>>> William H. Danforth Professor of Religion, emeritus
>> >>>>>>> former Associate Dean, College of Arts and Sciences
>> >>>>>>> Oberlin College
>> >>>>>>> Oberlin, OH 44074
>> >>>>>>> grover.zinn at oberlin.edu
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> At some point the Stream should be able to just save
>> >>>>audio in WAV >>>> or
>> >>>>>>>> MP3 rather than just in 3gp.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 18/02/2010, at 10:35 AM, Mike Freeman wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Best way is to use Stream Companion to convert the
>> >>>>.3gp files >>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> .WAV files and then use WavePad from NCH Software, 
>> >>>>>>>>> TotalRecorder
>> >>>>>>>>> from High Criteria or Goldwave or other sound  editor
>> >>>>to convert >>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>>> .WAV to .MP3. I know of no program that  converts from
>> >>>>.3gp  to >>>>> .mp3
>> >>>>>>>>> in one step.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Mike
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Greg Kearney, Manager - Accessible Media
>> >>>>>>>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>> >>>>>>>> 61 Kitchener Ave
>> >>>>>>>> Victoria Park, WA 6100
>> >>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA
>> >>>>>>>> +61 08 9311 8246
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
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