[Dtb-talk] new to the list and DTB's

Mon Mar 8 00:48:24 UTC 2010

Wont that make her fertile?
Oh the cable.
sorry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] new to the list and DTB's

> The female connector needs to have its "shield" removed.
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lynn Evans" <evans-lynn at comcast.net>
> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 11:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] new to the list and DTB's
>
>
>> The cable needs to be a male connector at one end and a female connector 
>> at the other.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 1:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] new to the list and DTB's
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>>
>>> You can buy a USB cable (it's part of an adaptor kit to interface with 
>>> various digital cameras) that works with NLS or the blank cartridges 
>>> mentioned below from Radio Shack. tIt isn't cheap but works like a 
>>> champ.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Flint Million" <fmillion at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] new to the list and DTB's
>>>
>>>
>>> It's probably been discussed a lot, but I'm happy to give a nice 
>>> overview.
>>>
>>> The DTB system by the NLS is based on Daisy, but there are proprietary
>>> extensions and encryption used to protect the rights of the copyright
>>> holders. This is why only certain players will play NLS content. The
>>> Victor Reader Stream, BookSense and I believe the PlexTalk and
>>> something from APH can play the NLS content, as well as, obviously,
>>> NLS's own player.
>>>
>>> If you want the NLS player, it is free to US citizens, so it's
>>> obviously the cheapest route. The NLS provided player is available in
>>> two versions: standard or advanced. The standard player is loosely
>>> analogous to the old EZ Cassette player - you simply insert a book and
>>> it plays it, and there's minimal control over navigation aside from a
>>> simple rewind and fast forward key. The advanced player on the other
>>> hand features extra navigation and information keys to allow you to
>>> navigate the book's DAISY structure, and also can set bookmarks in the
>>> book for easy return to important passages.
>>>
>>> Once you have a capable NLS player, you can either receive your books
>>> from the NLS on their new digital cartridges (which are simply
>>> read-only USB flash drives in a modified casing) or you can download
>>> books anytime you like from the NLS's "BARD" website. You can then
>>> load your downloaded books on to either a standard USB flash drive
>>> (the kind available at any electronics store or department store), or
>>> you can purchase a cartridge that is identical to the NLS shipping
>>> cartridges except it is read-write and blank, so you can put the books
>>> you desire on the cartridge.  The player has a USB flash drive port on
>>> the side, so if the idea of a flash drive sticking out the side of the
>>> player bothers you at all, you'll want to go for the cartridge.  I
>>> ordered my cartridge from APH, and it was $12 for a 2GB cartridge. You
>>> also need a USB cable; these are sold by ILA, but if you already have
>>> a USB extension cable it *may* work, depending on the style of the
>>> connector on it.
>>>
>>> Downloading books will require high speed internet, as books run about
>>> 10MB per hour of audio, so a 6 hour book will be about 60MB, which
>>> even on a 56K connection would take all night long, and downloading
>>> the larger 200MB+ books would become infeasible.
>>>
>>> (A bit of trivia: So far, the largest and longest book on the NLS site
>>> is Gotham: A History of New York City to 1898. It's 90 hours 14
>>> minutes long, and the download is 942MB in size!)
>>>
>>> In either case, downloading from BARD is free and it's available 24/7.
>>> So far, nobody has reported any sort of limits of any kind on the
>>> number of books you can download. (Friends of mine have downloaded
>>> over 100 books in a few days without any problems.) You can also get
>>> all of the NLS produced audio magazines on BARD, usually even sooner
>>> than the cassette versions ship.
>>>
>>> As for RFB&D, as I understand it, it is possible to authorize an NLS
>>> player to play RFB&D titles. The authorization key (which usually
>>> comes in a special file called a KXO file) can be obtained from RFB&D
>>> and allows their AudioPlus DAISY content to be played on the NLS
>>> player. The popular portable players (Victor Reader Stream and
>>> BookSense) can also play RFB&D content. AFAIK, there's a yearly limit
>>> on AudioPlus DAISY downloads of something like 50 titles a year. You
>>> can download unlimited WMA encrypted content, but this can't (legally)
>>> be converted for playback on anything but a computer with Windows
>>> Media Player.
>>>
>>> The NLS player can also play MP3 files stored on flash drives or the
>>> cartridges. This lets you play back any CD book copied to MP3 files,
>>> or even play music if desired.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps! Feel free to ask any other questions you may have.
>>>
>>> FM
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Mike Gilmore <m_b_gilmore at yahoo.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Good morning everybody.
>>>>
>>>> I just found this listserv on NFB's web site yesterday and became 
>>>> excited about it. When it comes to digital talking books, I know as 
>>>> much about them as I do about who'll be in the 2010 World Series and 
>>>> win it (which is to say nothing.)
>>>>
>>>> I currently receive my books from NLS in either cassette or braille; 
>>>> however, I noticed as I search NLS's web site for authors or books that 
>>>> a lot of them are digital downloads or web braille. I know that this is 
>>>> a DTB listerserv; however, does anyone know what web braille books from 
>>>> NLS is and how to access them?
>>>>
>>>> As far as DTB's, my question is the same thing. I tried to investigate 
>>>> how to receive them from NLS; but, one needs a player and there's seven 
>>>> listed. I also noticed that RFB&D switched all of their stuff to 
>>>> digital stuff. So, what's the best DTB player (the NLS one, etc.?) How 
>>>> does one get digital books from NLS? Downloading? Ordering?
>>>>
>>>> I hope to make the switch in the near future because I'm afraid that 
>>>> NLS will start to offer more DTB's and junk the cassettes very soon. 
>>>> I'm especially worried about the older books only on cassette that 
>>>> aren't on DTB and if they'll conver them or what.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for all this rambling! Thanks for all your help and for reading 
>>>> this!
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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