[Dtb-talk] digital player information

James Aldrich jajkaldrich at gmail.com
Thu Sep 22 14:33:45 UTC 2011 

I'll play with this but I'll bet if these are placed in the music folder, 
they would play!  I'll check on this!  I'll record a note on the stream and 
move it to BPP and see if it plays.

Jim


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] digital player information


> Howdy,
>
> FYI: I'm assuming the bookport plus will play 3gp files, since that's
> the type of audio BARD uses for NLS talking books.
>
> Therefore, I assume anything recorded on the stream will play fine on
> the bookport plus.  But, since the stream won't be able to find files
> recorded on by the bookport plus, it won't be able to  play them.
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 07:11:40PM -0600, James Aldrich wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> I haven't gone that far to determine all of this for certain!  I do know 
>> the
>> BPP played music files my wife had on a card with no problems.  If one 
>> has
>> the soft pack, one can record MP3 files with the stream and if these end 
>> up
>> in a music folder, the BPP could probably play them Of course, the BPP 
>> can't
>> play the 3gp or whatever it is files to my knowlege but then, I haven't 
>> gone
>> that far!
>>
>> As for playing books, I usually try to stop at the end of a chapter.  I 
>> then
>> place the SD card in my BPP and find the chapter and all is well!  If 
>> this
>> isn't possible, I try to see how much time has elapsed in the book and I
>> then forward to that time in my BPP.  I've done this between my Stream 
>> and
>> NLS player often!  There are any nuymber of ways to deal with this type 
>> of
>> situation!  Then again, one could put books on more than one card, thumb
>> drive or cartridge.  It is easy to backup both ways with the BPP.  I 
>> don't
>> consider this problematic!
>>
>> Jim
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] digital player information
>>
>>
>> >Jim,
>> >
>> >I'm curious when this feature is useful to you.
>> >
>> >Your place isn't remembered between the two devices.  So, if you start
>> >reading a book on the stream, and then continue reading it on the
>> >book port plus, you'll have to refind your place.  The same is true in
>> >the other direction.
>> >
>> >Also, if you record something on the BPP, the stream won't be able
>> >to play it.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Jim
>> >
>> >On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 08:19:30AM -0600, James Aldrich wrote:
>> >>Hi Mike, Tina and all,
>> >>
>> >>I do like the fact that I can put SD cards from my Victor Reader Stream
>> >>into
>> >>my Book Port Plus and play the content.  The Book Port Plus isn't as
>> >>particular about the directory structure so the device manages to find
>> >>digital content no matter where it is!  That has been my experience!  I
>> >>don't have to move files between the two devices.
>> >>
>> >>Jim
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> >>To: "'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:21 PM
>> >>Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] digital player information
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Good evaluation!
>> >>>
>> >>>Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >>>On
>> >>>Behalf Of Jim Barbour
>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:37 AM
>> >>>To: Dale Leavens; Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>> >>>Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] digital player information
>> >>>
>> >>>I would agree that the stream is a better device, some specifics
>> >>>below.
>> >>>
>> >>>* I've never seen software stability issues with the stream.  It will,
>> >>> once a year or so for me, corrupt its internal database and need to
>> >>> be reset.  This is a minor issue, despite how it sounds <smile>
>> >>>
>> >>>* The stream is a much better book reader, feeling much more
>> >>> comfortable and intuitive than the pocket.
>> >>>
>> >>>* The pocket does do wifi.  However, there is no web browser.  This
>> >>> means that you can't use it with any public facing wifi, such as at
>> >>> a starbucks.  This is because there's no way to enter a password, or
>> >>> agree to terms of service.
>> >>>
>> >>>* The pocket is a much better recorder.  If you're looking for a way
>> >>> to organize class recordings, have books read, etc. then the pocket
>> >>> becomes much more attractive.
>> >>>
>> >>>* I would also have a look at the book port plus from APH.  They took
>> >>> the Pocket and redid much of its firmware.  So, the commands are
>> >>> different, and the features changed slightly.  I like the Book Port
>> >>> more than the pocket, and I like the stream better than either.
>> >>>
>> >>>Hope this helps,
>> >>>
>> >>>Jim
>> >>>
>> >>>On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:01:49PM -0400, Dale Leavens wrote:
>> >>>>All you say is true from my perspective too. The Stream has a better
>> >>>>and
>> >>>>louder speaker as well however we have some software stability issues
>> >>>>with
>> >>>>the Stream. Just recently when copying DAISY content from CNIB discs
>> >>>>apparently works but the book does not appear in the bookshelf. When
>> >>>>attempting to copy it again one is prompted to overwrite the book 
>> >>>>which
>> >>>>apparently isn't there and doing so doesn't put it there either. 
>> >>>>There
>> >>>seems
>> >>>>to be issues around how the directory works and is organized. So far 
>> >>>>I
>> >>>have
>> >>>>not seen this sort of trouble with the PlexTalk Pocket. I do wish it
>> >>>>had
>> >>>>a
>> >>>>more robust sound though and a better protective case for when I am
>> >>>wearing
>> >>>>it about my work in the shop and gardens.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Dale leavens.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrews, David B (DEED)"
>> >>>><david.b.andrews at state.mn.us>
>> >>>>To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:16 PM
>> >>>>Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] digital player information
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>They are similar devices, they do many of the same things  -- they
>> >>>>>both
>> >>>>>have their strengths and weaknesses.  Personally I think the Stream
>> >>is >>>a
>> >>>>>better DAISY book player, its algorithms for speeding up a book
>> >>>>>without
>> >>>>>changing the pitch are better, and it has very good battery life, 
>> >>>>>and
>> >>>>>is
>> >>>>>well thought out, and easy to use.  The Pocket is thinner and 
>> >>>>>lighter,
>> >>>>>is
>> >>>>>probably a better recorder, and can now be connected for some things
>> >>>>>via
>> >>>>>Wifi.  I don't find it as easy to use, and battery life isn't as 
>> >>>>>good,
>> >>>but
>> >>>>>smaller.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>So, it depends on what is important to you!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Dave
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> >>>>>[mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >>>>>On
>> >>>>>Behalf Of Sarah
>> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:41 AM
>> >>>>>To: dtb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> >>>>>Subject: [Dtb-talk] digital player information
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Hello. I have been using a Victor Reader stream for several years. I
>> >>>would
>> >>>>>like to know the difference between the stream and the PlexTalk
>> >>>>>Pocket.
>> >>>>>Thank you.
>> >>>>>   Sarah
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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