[Dtb-talk] BANA UEB code vote

[Greg Kearney]

The UEB math codes fundamental problem in my opinion is that it seeks to describe math rather than be a true representation of math itself. A Nementh math expression is just that an expression not a description of math. It is further aided by being developed by a mathmetition a world known expert in the field of math independent of his background in Braille.


Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media
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On 05/11/2012, at 7:16 AM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> IMO the problem is that too many who are highly involved in working with
> Braille codes are math-phobic. <grin>
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg
> Kearney
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 11:26 AM
> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] BANA UEB code vote
> 
> I agree, Nemeth is vastly better than the weak UEB math code. They are
> correct in retaining it while using UEB for literary works. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Greg Kearney
> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
> 
> On 05/11/2012, at 2:20 AM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> 
>> Because its math implementation sucks big-time!
>> 
>> Mike Freeman
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Roger
> devin
>> Prater
>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 9:33 AM
>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] BANA UEB code vote
>> 
>> Why use UEB for just literary stuff? That defeats the whole, entire
> purpose 
>> of UEB, to be a Unified English Braille code.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 11:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] BANA UEB code vote
>> 
>> 
>>> Well, I wouldn't jump to any conclusions.  One proposal was to use UEB
> for
>> 
>>> literary stuff, and still allow Nemeth for Math and Science.  Don't know 
>>> either way if this is what they did?
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> At 11:10 AM 11/4/2012, you wrote:
>>>> Oh, this is wonderful! Now I won't have to worry about Nimath codes and 
>>>> all that anymore? That's what I've always hated about braille notes and 
>>>> iPods and things like that, that in US braille I could not do math
> easily 
>>>> as I could with UEB. But my goodness I'm going to miss the "to" sign and
> 
>>>> the "ation" sign.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 11:00 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] BANA UEB code vote
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I just read on Twitter that BANA voted to adopt UEB, have no details.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 03:29 AM 11/4/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>> Does anyone know how BANAs vote on the use of UEB in the U.S. went on 
>>>>>> Saturday.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greg Kearney
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greg Kearney
>>>>>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>>> 
>>> 
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