[Dtb-talk] Dtb-talk Digest, Vol 87, Issue 6

Wed Nov 28 02:16:54 UTC 2012

I love the new changes, but when I went to change my email address I
got locked out and can no longer log in because when I tried to use my
teporary password it sais it doesn't recognize the new ID. I emailed
support and I am hoping they will get back to me as there are things I
want to read.

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>    1. Re: Changes to BARD (Mike Freeman)
>    2. Re: Changes to BARD (Pratik Patel)
>    3. Re: Changes to BARD (Peter Donahue)
>    4. Re: Changes to BARD (Mike Freeman)
>    5. Re: Changes to BARD (Mike Freeman)
>    6. Re: Changes to BARD (Peter Donahue)
>    7. Re: Changes to BARD (Mary Donahue)
>    8. Re: Changes to BARD (Mike Freeman)
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 10:52:43 -0800
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
> Message-ID: <4F2AE775-052B-4528-9F0E-9CAF3F736E06 at panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
>
> True enough. But there's the potential of running into file name length
> limits.
>
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2012, at 9:56, "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nothing to say that the book number can't be included as well.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
>> Freeman
>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 12:53 PM
>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>
>> Have you forgotten how to rename a file? I rather like the book number in
>> the file name. Different strokes ...
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>> sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2012, at 8:53, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>   This is great news. Our only wish for the future is to have the book
>>> title used in the filename followed by a volume number in the case of
>>> multiple volume books for easier identification. Instead of
>>> 01234567891.brf,
>>> 01234567892.brf the titles could read: Thunderdog1.brf, Thunderdog2.brf
>>> making them easier to find in one's collection. I used ThunderDog as an
>>> example because Mary recently downloaded it from Web Braille. Here's
>>> hoping
>>> this suggestion will be implemented in the future if it hasn't been done
>>> so
>>> all ready. All the best for a belated Happy Thanksgiving from the
>>> Donahue's.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 10:25 AM
>>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>>
>>>
>>> Among other things, NLS is putting the B in
>>> BARD.  The following information went out today
>>> -- the site will change next Tuesday, the 27th of November.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello, List Members,
>>>
>>> We are excited to tell you that a major update to
>>> BARD will be released next Tuesday, November 27.
>>> Here is what will happen before the update and
>>> what to expect once the update is complete.
>>>
>>> As you may have noticed, there's a BARD alert up
>>> to remind everyone that The Braille and Audio
>>> Reading Download (BARD) will be down for at least
>>> twenty-four hours beginning at midnight on
>>> Sunday, November 25, while we migrate to the new
>>> system. On Tuesday, November 27, the new
>>> BARD?featuring Web-Braille materials, the wish
>>> list, and other additions?will be available at https//nlsbard.loc.gov.
>>>
>>> BARD users will receive a message summarizing the
>>> new materials and features the first five t
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:01:10 -0500
> From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
> Message-ID: <007d01cdc9ac$e768b7d0$b63a2770$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
>
> Only problematic for operating systems that  only support 8.3 file name
> convention. A part of the book title could be helpful. The current system is
> not user friendly.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Freeman
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 1:53 PM
> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>
> True enough. But there's the potential of running into file name length
> limits.
>
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2012, at 9:56, "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nothing to say that the book number can't be included as well.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
>> Freeman
>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 12:53 PM
>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>
>> Have you forgotten how to rename a file? I rather like the book number in
>> the file name. Different strokes ...
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>> sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2012, at 8:53, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>   This is great news. Our only wish for the future is to have the book
>>> title used in the filename followed by a volume number in the case of
>>> multiple volume books for easier identification. Instead of
>>> 01234567891.brf,
>>> 01234567892.brf the titles could read: Thunderdog1.brf, Thunderdog2.brf
>>> making them easier to find in one's collection. I used ThunderDog as an
>>> example because Mary recently downloaded it from Web Braille. Here's
>>> hoping
>>> this suggestion will be implemented in the future if it hasn't been done
>>> so
>>> all ready. All the best for a belated Happy Thanksgiving from the
>>> Donahue's.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 10:25 AM
>>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>>
>>>
>>> Among other things, NLS is putting the B in
>>> BARD.  The following information went out today
>>> -- the site will change next Tuesday, the 27th of November.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello, List Members,
>>>
>>> We are excited to tell you that a major update to
>>> BARD will be released next Tuesday, November 27.
>>> Here is what will happen before the update and
>>> what to expect once the update is complete.
>>>
>>> As you may have noticed, there's a BARD alert up
>>> to remind everyone that The Braille and Audio
>>> Reading Download (BARD) will be down for at least
>>> twenty-four hours beginning at midnight on
>>> Sunday, November 25, while we migrate to the new
>>> system. On Tuesday, November 27, the new
>>> BARD?featuring Web-Braille materials, the wish
>>> list, and other additions?will be available at https//nlsbard.loc.gov.
>>>
>>> BARD users will receive a message summarizing the
>>> new materials and features the first five t
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:10:25 -0600
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
> Message-ID: <001f01cdc9ae$31e4c0a0$df1fbf48 at yourfsyly0jtwn>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
>
> Hello Mike and everyone,
>
>     Bookshare.org all ready does this. This is not the only situation in
> which "User-Friendly" file names are desired to the point that particular
> Web languages such as ColdFusion have components to automatically do this
> for those who download files from the Internet. There are those who post PDF
>
> documents using long filenames such as those of the NLS Web Braille books.
> The component matches the long filename with the title of the book or
> article being downloaded and automatically renames the file using the
> article or book's title giving the person downloading the file a
> user-friendly filename. Perhaps Web Braille/BARD could make this
> configurable to allow those that prefer the book files numbered when
> downloaded that choice and to allow those who want the book title to appear
>
> in the filename instead. In both cases the volume number would also need to
>
> be included. We enjoy downloading content from NLS but want the files we
> download to be easier to find and ready for use when they're downloaded so
> we won't need to host a renaming party each time we download a book.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>
>
> Have you forgotten how to rename a file? I rather like the book number in
> the file name. Different strokes ...
>
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2012, at 8:53, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>    This is great news. Our only wish for the future is to have the book
>> title used in the filename followed by a volume number in the case of
>> multiple volume books for easier identification. Instead of
>> 01234567891.brf,
>> 01234567892.brf the titles could read: Thunderdog1.brf, Thunderdog2.brf
>> making them easier to find in one's collection. I used ThunderDog as an
>> example because Mary recently downloaded it from Web Braille. Here's
>> hoping
>> this suggestion will be implemented in the future if it hasn't been done
>> so
>> all ready. All the best for a belated Happy Thanksgiving from the
>> Donahue's.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 10:25 AM
>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>
>>
>> Among other things, NLS is putting the B in
>> BARD.  The following information went out today
>> -- the site will change next Tuesday, the 27th of November.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> Hello, List Members,
>>
>> We are excited to tell you that a major update to
>> BARD will be released next Tuesday, November 27.
>> Here is what will happen before the update and
>> what to expect once the update is complete.
>>
>> As you may have noticed, there's a BARD alert up
>> to remind everyone that The Braille and Audio
>> Reading Download (BARD) will be down for at least
>> twenty-four hours beginning at midnight on
>> Sunday, November 25, while we migrate to the new
>> system. On Tuesday, November 27, the new
>> BARD?featuring Web-Braille materials, the wish
>> list, and other additions?will be available at https//nlsbard.loc.gov.
>>
>> BARD users will receive a message summarizing the
>> new materials and features the first five times
>> they log in to BARD after Tuesday, November 27.
>>
>> Once BARD has been updated, you will be able to
>> log in with the same email address and password
>> you use now. You'll notice the following differences:
>>
>> Web-Braille is now part of BARD. On every page
>> containing books or magazines, you'll find links
>> to both audio and braille titles. These links are
>> always at heading 1, so you can easily find the
>> book format you want. Audiobooks are always
>> listed first. Also, if you only want to see one
>> type of book, you can set this up by choosing the
>> Account Settings link on the BARD main page and
>> then making your choice in the Display Results
>> combo box. This page also gives you the option to
>> display the site in color or black and white,
>> which may help some of you to see it better.
>>
>> Braille books are in zip files. Each zip file
>> contains all the volumes of that book. So to read
>> a braille book, unzip the book to a folder, copy
>> that unzipped folder's contents to a
>> braille-aware notetaker or computer with a
>> braille display, open the volume you want, and start reading.
>>
>> Braille music scores and audio music instruction
>> courses are now on BARD. So are books, both
>> braille and audio, that are produced by NLS network libraries.
>>
>> BARD book listings are formatted as they always
>> were, except that each book title is now a link.
>> If you choose that link, you go to a page with
>> several new features. These include:
>>
>> . The author's name is a link that takes you to a
>> page displaying all the books on BARD by that author.
>> . If the book is part of a series, there is a
>> Series link that will take you to a page listing
>> all the books on BARD in the series. Note that
>> this section is still under development, so not
>> all books in the series may be listed.
>> . If the book is listed under more than one
>> subject, all the subjects are listed, and each is
>> a link to all the books on BARD with that
>> subject. This also means that if you browse by
>> subject on BARD, Bestseller will now include all
>> books with the subject Bestseller.
>> . The narrator's name is a link that will take
>> you to a page listing other books read by that narrator.
>> . There is a link that will add the book to a
>> wish list. This is handy if you don't want to
>> download the book now but would like to be able to locate it later.
>> . There are additional details, such as the book's ISBN.
>>
>> You can now see a list of all the books and
>> magazines you have downloaded. To do this, follow
>> the My Previous Downloads link on the main page.
>> The My Wish List link is there, too. Both are
>> level 3 headings, making it easy to find them.
>>
>> For a more detailed description of the changes, visit
>>
>> https://nlsbard.loc.gov/NLS/NewBARDOverview.html
>>
>> Since these are major changes, you may experience
>> some problems with the site at first. If so,
>> please be patient and know that NLS is working to
>> fix problems as quickly as possible. If a problem
>> doesn't go away after a day or two, however, feel free to contact your
>> library.
>>
>> We hope you enjoy this new version of BARD.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The BARD Technical Support Team
>> NLS BARD Technical Support
>> e-mail: NLSDownload at loc.gov
>> Read the BARD FAQ at: https://nlsbard.loc.gov/NLS/FAQ.html
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:23:25 -0800
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
> Message-ID: <82685CAA-5D7C-4E02-9DD3-417AF15A54DB at panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
>
> I disagree profoundly!
>
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2012, at 11:01, "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Only problematic for operating systems that  only support 8.3 file name
>> convention. A part of the book title could be helpful. The current system
>> is not user friendly.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
>> Freeman
>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 1:53 PM
>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>
>> True enough. But there's the potential of running into file name length
>> limits.
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>> sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2012, at 9:56, "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nothing to say that the book number can't be included as well.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
>>> Freeman
>>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 12:53 PM
>>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>>
>>> Have you forgotten how to rename a file? I rather like the book number in
>>> the file name. Different strokes ...
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>> sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2012, at 8:53, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>>  This is great news. Our only wish for the future is to have the book
>>>> title used in the filename followed by a volume number in the case of
>>>> multiple volume books for easier identification. Instead of
>>>> 01234567891.brf,
>>>> 01234567892.brf the titles could read: Thunderdog1.brf, Thunderdog2.brf
>>>>
>>>> making them easier to find in one's collection. I used ThunderDog as an
>>>>
>>>> example because Mary recently downloaded it from Web Braille. Here's
>>>> hoping
>>>> this suggestion will be implemented in the future if it hasn't been done
>>>> so
>>>> all ready. All the best for a belated Happy Thanksgiving from the
>>>> Donahue's.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>> To: <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 10:25 AM
>>>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Among other things, NLS is putting the B in
>>>> BARD.  The following information went out today
>>>> -- the site will change next Tuesday, the 27th of November.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello, List Members,
>>>>
>>>> We are excited to tell you that a major update to
>>>> BARD will be released next Tuesday, November 27.
>>>> Here is what will happen before the update and
>>>> what to expect once the update is complete.
>>>>
>>>> As you may have noticed, there's a BARD alert up
>>>> to remind everyone that The Braille and Audio
>>>> Reading Download (BARD) will be down for at least
>>>> twenty-four hours beginning at midnight on
>>>> Sunday, November 25, while we migrate to the new
>>>> system. On Tuesday, November 27, the new
>>>> BARD?featuring Web-Braille materials, the wish
>>>> list, and other additions?will be available at https//nlsbard.loc.gov.
>>>>
>>>> BARD users will receive a message summarizing the
>>>> new materials and features the first five t
>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:29:53 -0800
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
> Message-ID: <FBC6E5A6-F3AA-41D2-8DB5-2BDE4CA8E26C at panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
>
> Just use those computer skills and rename those files!
>
> BTW, Learning Ally is worse!
>
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2012, at 11:10, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Mike and everyone,
>>
>>    Bookshare.org all ready does this. This is not the only situation in
>> which "User-Friendly" file names are desired to the point that particular
>>
>> Web languages such as ColdFusion have components to automatically do this
>>
>> for those who download files from the Internet. There are those who post
>> PDF
>> documents using long filenames such as those of the NLS Web Braille books.
>>
>> The component matches the long filename with the title of the book or
>> article being downloaded and automatically renames the file using the
>> article or book's title giving the person downloading the file a
>> user-friendly filename. Perhaps Web Braille/BARD could make this
>> configurable to allow those that prefer the book files numbered when
>> downloaded that choice and to allow those who want the book title to
>> appear
>> in the filename instead. In both cases the volume number would also need
>> to
>> be included. We enjoy downloading content from NLS but want the files we
>> download to be easier to find and ready for use when they're downloaded so
>>
>> we won't need to host a renaming party each time we download a book.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 11:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>
>>
>> Have you forgotten how to rename a file? I rather like the book number in
>>
>> the file name. Different strokes ...
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>> sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2012, at 8:53, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>   This is great news. Our only wish for the future is to have the book
>>> title used in the filename followed by a volume number in the case of
>>> multiple volume books for easier identification. Instead of
>>> 01234567891.brf,
>>> 01234567892.brf the titles could read: Thunderdog1.brf, Thunderdog2.brf
>>> making them easier to find in one's collection. I used ThunderDog as an
>>> example because Mary recently downloaded it from Web Braille. Here's
>>> hoping
>>> this suggestion will be implemented in the future if it hasn't been done
>>>
>>> so
>>> all ready. All the best for a belated Happy Thanksgiving from the
>>> Donahue's.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Da
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:34:25 -0600
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
> Message-ID: <000b01cdc9b1$8cb1a860$df1fbf48 at yourfsyly0jtwn>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello Mike and everyone,
>
>     We can rename files but having it done for us is a wonderful
> convenience. As pointed out previously there are others who prefer
> user-friendly filenames and have taken steps to address the issue making the
>
> process convenient for everyone.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>
>
> Just use those computer skills and rename those files!
>
> BTW, Learning Ally is worse!
>
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2012, at 11:10, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Mike and everyone,
>>
>>    Bookshare.org all ready does this. This is not the only situation in
>> which "User-Friendly" file names are desired to the point that particular
>> Web languages such as ColdFusion have components to automatically do this
>> for those who download files from the Internet. There are those who post
>> PDF
>> documents using long filenames such as those of the NLS Web Braille
>> books.
>> The component matches the long filename with the title of the book or
>> article being downloaded and automatically renames the file using the
>> article or book's title giving the person downloading the file a
>> user-friendly filename. Perhaps Web Braille/BARD could make this
>> configurable to allow those that prefer the book files numbered when
>> downloaded that choice and to allow those who want the book title to
>> appear
>> in the filename instead. In both cases the volume number would also need
>> to
>> be included. We enjoy downloading content from NLS but want the files we
>> download to be easier to find and ready for use when they're downloaded
>> so
>> we won't need to host a renaming party each time we download a book.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 11:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>
>>
>> Have you forgotten how to rename a file? I rather like the book number in
>> the file name. Different strokes ...
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>> sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2012, at 8:53, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>   This is great news. Our only wish for the future is to have the book
>>> title used in the filename followed by a volume number in the case of
>>> multiple volume books for easier identification. Instead of
>>> 01234567891.brf,
>>> 01234567892.brf the titles could read: Thunderdog1.brf, Thunderdog2.brf
>>> making them easier to find in one's collection. I used ThunderDog as an
>>> example because Mary recently downloaded it from Web Braille. Here's
>>> hoping
>>> this suggestion will be implemented in the future if it hasn't been done
>>> so
>>> all ready. All the best for a belated Happy Thanksgiving from the
>>> Donahue's.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Da
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> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:01:03 -0600
> From: "Mary Donahue" <braille at satx.rr.com>
> To: "'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
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> Hello Mike and everyone,
>
> 	Agreed. I am always renaming files downloaded from Web Braille, and the
> volume number is always included. I usually delete the book number. BARD
> files would not be any different.
>
> Mary Donahue
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Freeman
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 11:53 AM
> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>
> Have you forgotten how to rename a file? I rather like the book number in
> the file name. Different strokes ...
>
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2012, at 8:53, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>    This is great news. Our only wish for the future is to have the
>> book title used in the filename followed by a volume number in the
>> case of multiple volume books for easier identification. Instead of
>> 01234567891.brf, 01234567892.brf the titles could read:
>> Thunderdog1.brf, Thunderdog2.brf making them easier to find in one's
>> collection. I used ThunderDog as an example because Mary recently
>> downloaded it from Web Braille. Here's hoping this suggestion will be
>> implemented in the future if it hasn't been done so all ready. All the
>> best for a belated Happy Thanksgiving from the Donahue's.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 10:25 AM
>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>
>>
>> Among other things, NLS is putting the B in BARD.  The following
>> information went out today
>> -- the site will change next Tuesday, the 27th of November.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> Hello, List Members,
>>
>> We are excited to tell you that a major update to BARD will be
>> released next Tuesday, November 27.
>> Here is what will happen before the update and what to expect once the
>> update is complete.
>>
>> As you may have noticed, there's a BARD alert up to remind everyone
>> that The Braille and Audio Reading Download (BARD) will be down for at
>> least twenty-four hours beginning at midnight on Sunday, November 25,
>> while we migrate to the new system. On Tuesday, November 27, the new
>> BARD?featuring Web-Braille materials, the wish list, and other
>> additions?will be available at https//nlsbard.loc.gov.
>>
>> BARD users will receive a message summarizing the new materials and
>> features the first five times they log in to BARD after Tuesday,
>> November 27.
>>
>> Once BARD has been updated, you will be able to log in with the same
>> email address and password you use now. You'll notice the following
>> differences:
>>
>> Web-Braille is now part of BARD. On every page containing books or
>> magazines, you'll find links to both audio and braille titles. These
>> links are always at heading 1, so you can easily find the book format
>> you want. Audiobooks are always listed first. Also, if you only want
>> to see one type of book, you can set this up by choosing the Account
>> Settings link on the BARD main page and then making your choice in the
>> Display Results combo box. This page also gives you the option to
>> display the site in color or black and white, which may help some of
>> you to see it better.
>>
>> Braille books are in zip files. Each zip file contains all the volumes
>> of that book. So to read a braille book, unzip the book to a folder,
>> copy that unzipped folder's contents to a braille-aware notetaker or
>> computer with a braille display, open the volume you want, and start
>> reading.
>>
>> Braille music scores and audio music instruction courses are now on
>> BARD. So are books, both braille and audio, that are produced by NLS
>> network libraries.
>>
>> BARD book listings are formatted as they always were, except that each
>> book title is now a link.
>> If you choose that link, you go to a page with several new features.
>> These include:
>>
>> . The author's name is a link that takes you to a page displaying all
>> the books on BARD by that author.
>> . If the book is part of a series, there is a Series link that will
>> take you to a page listing all the books on BARD in the series. Note
>> that this section is still under development, so not all books in the
>> series may be listed.
>> . If the book is listed under more than one subject, all the subjects
>> are listed, and each is a link to all the books on BARD with that
>> subject. This also means that if you browse by subject on BARD,
>> Bestseller will now include all books with the subject Bestseller.
>> . The narrator's name is a link that will take you to a page listing
>> other books read by that narrator.
>> . There is a link that will add the book to a wish list. This is handy
>> if you don't want to download the book now but would like to be able
>> to locate it later.
>> . There are additional details, such as the book's ISBN.
>>
>> You can now see a list of all the books and magazines you have
>> downloaded. To do this, follow the My Previous Downloads link on the
>> main page.
>> The My Wish List link is there, too. Both are level 3 headings, making
>> it easy to find them.
>>
>> For a more detailed description of the changes, visit
>>
>> https://nlsbard.loc.gov/NLS/NewBARDOverview.html
>>
>> Since these are major changes, you may experience some problems with
>> the site at first. If so, please be patient and know that NLS is
>> working to fix problems as quickly as possible. If a problem doesn't
>> go away after a day or two, however, feel free to contact your
>> library.
>>
>> We hope you enjoy this new version of BARD.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The BARD Technical Support Team
>> NLS BARD Technical Support
>> e-mail: NLSDownload at loc.gov
>> Read the BARD FAQ at: https://nlsbard.loc.gov/NLS/FAQ.html
>>
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 17:19:39 -0800
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
> Message-ID: <00af01cdc9e1$c6ee8f40$54cbadc0$@panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="UTF-8"
>
> I think only the Braille files will have this "problem" anyway.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Donahue
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 12:01 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>
> Hello Mike and everyone,
>
> 	Agreed. I am always renaming files downloaded from Web Braille, and the
> volume number is always included. I usually delete the book number. BARD
> files would not be any different.
>
> Mary Donahue
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Freeman
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 11:53 AM
> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>
> Have you forgotten how to rename a file? I rather like the book number in
> the file name. Different strokes ...
>
> Mike Freeman
> sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2012, at 8:53, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>    This is great news. Our only wish for the future is to have the
>> book title used in the filename followed by a volume number in the
>> case of multiple volume books for easier identification. Instead of
>> 01234567891.brf, 01234567892.brf the titles could read:
>> Thunderdog1.brf, Thunderdog2.brf making them easier to find in one's
>> collection. I used ThunderDog as an example because Mary recently
>> downloaded it from Web Braille. Here's hoping this suggestion will be
>> implemented in the future if it hasn't been done so all ready. All the
>> best for a belated Happy Thanksgiving from the Donahue's.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 10:25 AM
>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] Changes to BARD
>>
>>
>> Among other things, NLS is putting the B in BARD.  The following
>> information went out today
>> -- the site will change next Tuesday, the 27th of November.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> Hello, List Members,
>>
>> We are excited to tell you that a major update to BARD will be
>> released next Tuesday, November 27.
>> Here is what will happen before the update and what to expect once the
>> update is complete.
>>
>> As you may have noticed, there's a BARD alert up to remind everyone
>> that The Braille and Audio Reading Download (BARD) will be down for at
>> least twenty-four hours beginning at midnight on Sunday, November 25,
>> while we migrate to the new system. On Tuesday, November 27, the new
>> BARD?featuring Web-Braille materials, the wish list, and other
>> additions?will be available at https//nlsbard.loc.gov.
>>
>> BARD users will receive a message summarizing the new materials and
>> features the first five times they log in to BARD after Tuesday,
>> November 27.
>>
>> Once BARD has been updated, you will be able to log in with the same
>> email address and password you use now. You'll notice the following
>> differences:
>>
>> Web-Braille is now part of BARD. On every page containing books or
>> magazines, you'll find links to both audio and braille titles. These
>> links are always at heading 1, so you can easily find the book format
>> you want. Audiobooks are always listed first. Also, if you only want
>> to see one type of book, you can set this up by choosing the Account
>> Settings link on the BARD main page and then making your choice in the
>> Display Results combo box. This page also gives you the option to
>> display the site in color or black and white, which may help some of
>> you to see it better.
>>
>> Braille books are in zip files. Each zip file contains all the volumes
>> of that book. So to read a braille book, unzip the book to a folder,
>> copy that unzipped folder's contents to a braille-aware notetaker or
>> computer with a braille display, open the volume you want, and start
>> reading.
>>
>> Braille music scores and audio music instruction courses are now on
>> BARD. So are books, both braille and audio, that are produced by NLS
>> network libraries.
>>
>> BARD book listings are formatted as they always were, except that each
>> book title is now a link.
>> If you choose that link, you go to a page with several new features.
>> These include:
>>
>> . The author's name is a link that takes you to a page displaying all
>> the books on BARD by that author.
>> . If the book is part of a series, there is a Series link that will
>> take you to a page listing all the books on BARD in the series. Note
>> that this section is still under development, so not all books in the
>> series may be listed.
>> . If the book is listed under more than one subject, all the subjects
>> are listed, and each is a link to all the books on BARD with that
>> subject. This also means that if you browse by subject on BARD,
>> Bestseller will now include all books with the subject Bestseller.
>> . The narrator's name is a link that will take you to a page listing
>> other books read by that narrator.
>> . There is a link that will add the book to a wish list. This is handy
>> if you don't want to download the book now but would like to be able
>> to locate it later.
>> . There are additional details, such as the book's ISBN.
>>
>> You can now see a list of all the books and magazines you have
>> downloaded. To do this, follow the My Previous Downloads link on the
>> main page.
>> The My Wish List link is there, too. Both are level 3 headings, making
>> it easy to find them.
>>
>> For a more detailed description of the changes, visit
>>
>> https://nlsbard.loc.gov/NLS/NewBARDOverview.html
>>
>> Since these are major changes, you may experience some problems with
>> the site at first. If so, please be patient and know that NLS is
>> working to fix problems as quickly as possible. If a problem doesn't
>> go away after a day or two, however, feel free to contact your
>> library.
>>
>> We hope you enjoy this new version of BARD.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The BARD Technical Support Team
>> NLS BARD Technical Support
>> e-mail: NLSDownload at loc.gov
>> Read the BARD FAQ at: https://nlsbard.loc.gov/NLS/FAQ.html
>>
>>
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