[DTB-Talk] Bard censoring certain material?

Fri Jul 26 21:24:23 UTC 2019

 My guess is that Bard did not edit the book. Instead, audible probably has an explicit version and a non-explicit version.  Is it possible that Bard chose the non-explicit version.?

Jim

Written while on the move,, 

> On Jul 26, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Sherri via DTB-Talk <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Thank you so much for this.  I have written.
> 
> Sherri
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> OK. How do I get a hold of her?
> 
> Chris.
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>>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 14:39, Hyde, David W. (ESC) via DTB-Talk
>> <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> I would suggest you contact Judy Dixon at NLS. As a co-chair of the NFB
> Library Services Committee, I would be interested in the response you get.
> Editing books has not been a past practice of NLS. 
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>> You should take this up with NLS, I don't think anyone here is going to
> know. 
>> 
>> In the past they did not sensor books.
>> 
>> Dave
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>> Subject: [DTB-Talk] Bard sensoring certain material?
>> 
>> OK, I just made a discovery today which does not at all make me the
> slightest bit happy.
>> 
>> I'm not one for swearing, however, neither am I one for sensorship.
>> 
>> I was listening to a book which I'd downloaded from Bard, come to think of
> it, this was the 2nd title I've noticed this. I'm only quoting here from a
> book, so please do not ban me for a simple quotation, and not that of my own
> remark, but one line in the book said, "by the look on her face, you would
> have thought she didn't give a shit." What you actually heard however in the
> downloaded Bard recording was, she didn't give a... bee'eep. The only way I
> know they said the word s h i t is because it's a commurcial audio book,
> and, it just so happens that I downloaded the original mainstream recording
> from Audible, as I was very curious if they actually bleeped the word in the
> mainstream recording.
>> I've found most audio books Bard or not, if there is a swear word,
> regardless cultural beliefs etc, the narrator *has* to say it. If you're a
> pro narrator, from what I understand, you have to put emotions and things
> like that aside in order for the recording to past quality control
> screening. Anyway, on the actual Audible version, same narrator, same
> recording, etc, it was not bleeped out. I could make out the word clear as
> night and day.
>> 
>> This led me to check the other book to see if the book did the same thing.
> I downloaded the Bard book again to my shelf, went to the chapter in
> question, and listened through Bard. The line was, and no, even quoting, I'm
> not gonna repeat this word as it's way more offensive to many than the sh
> word, but basically, the line was, it was f**king crazy.
>> 
>> The narrator on the Bard version said, effing crazy. When I listened to
> the version on Audible, and even checked the actual print text through a
> scanned copy on Bookshare, the actual F word was there. Again, I ab, suh,
> lootly! do not condone that type language, however, that said, come on! It's
> a book for Pete sake!
>> 
>> Why're Bard narrators all of a sudden unlike before being coached
> evidently to not just read what is on the page? Both these books were fairly
> newer titles. Bard didn't seem to used to do this.
>> 
>> What changed?
>> 
>> Chris.
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