[Electronics-talk] Electronics-talk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 21

Tue Dec 23 23:49:43 UTC 2008

Hi all,

I spoke to a lad;by at Verizon wireless and while on the phone we learned 
that the LG venus has the most audible commands-  She has the phone herself 
and did not even realize the phone had so many speech commands.
I will be purchasing one pretty soon.

Have a wonderful holiday,
Angela and Pathfinder(guide dog)

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>   1. Re: LG enV2 (Kate)
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>   3. LG Phones (tony sohl)
>   4. Re: LG enV2 (Christopher Chaltain)
>   5. Re: [Electronics-talk inputting contacts with LGenV2 (Dhunthausen)
>   6. Re: LG enV2 (James Aldrich)
>   7. Re: LG enV2 (Rob Kaiser)
>   8. Re: [Electronics-talk inputting contacts with LGenV2 (Rob Kaiser)
>   9. Re: [Electronics-talk inputting contacts with LGenV2 (Kate)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:34:40 -0500
> From: Kate <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> I don't know that I could afford it at the moment, but do these phones 
> work with the mobile screen readers or not?
>
>
> Kate
>
>
>
>> From: jkaldrich at qwest.net
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:43:16 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>
>> Hi Kate and list,
>>
>> The problem with LG phones, you can only get the missed calls and your
>> contacts.  Received calls, dialed calls lists are not accessible!  Text
>> messaging is accessible with the NV2 but not every menu!
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>
>>
>>
>> oh, wow, thank you very much that is helpful. Is there a way to hear 
>> recent
>> calls that were not missed? I figure if I can hear the missed calls I 
>> ought
>> to somehow be able to navigate to all calls whether missed, recieved or 
>> even
>> the calls I've made in the past.
>>
>> Please tell me if that is possible
>> thanks,
>> Kate
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com
>> > To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:26:34 -0800
>> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>> >
>> > Yes there. is.
>> >
>> > Press the button below the enter key that says "Please say a command."
>> >
>> > Then press number 4 and 7 on your keypad. That will tell you battery
>> > status.
>> >
>> > #42 will tell you if you have voicemail. 43 tells you if you have any
>> > messages, 44 gives you all of your missed calls, 45 gives you the time, 
>> > 46
>> > tells you how many bars you have.
>> >
>> > Hopefully, this will help you.
>> >
>> >
>> > Rob Kaiser
>> > PRESIDENT, NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND OF CALIFORNIA ORANGE COUNTY
>> > CHAPTER
>> > HOME PHONE (714)289-9114
>> > CELL PHONE (714)323-5203
>> > EMAIL ADDRESS: rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
>> > To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:15 AM
>> > Subject: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I just recently got the LG enV2 cell phone. I have been able to get
>> > someone
>> > to read enough of the manual to me so that the phone is pretty 
>> > accessible
>> > to
>> > me. Its confusing to not have speech for a lot of functions beyond the
>> > second layer of menues though. I'm wondering if there's a way for me to
>> > have
>> > my phone tell me things like battery status, or how many bars I have, 
>> > or
>> > what the time is? All those things would be useful to know but I can't
>> > find
>> > my way to any menu with such options. Is there a voice command to 
>> > obtain
>> > such information?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Kate
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> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:02:02 -0500
> From: Kate <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [Electronics-talk inputting contacts
> with LG enV2
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> One other question I have after struggling to enter a contact this morning 
> is how to use the "say command" button and then the number 52 to enter 
> contacts. It was really giving me the run around, sometimes telling me my 
> valid info was invalid... cutting me off prematurely before I could even 
> blurt out a whole phone number... mind you, i was speaking quickly without 
> pauses. Also, sometimes the phone was just acting as though it was going 
> into sleep mode while I was trying to speak... again, I was not pausing, I 
> was speaking without pause. I would say what I wanted to enter and it 
> would act dead until I pressed the call or ok buttons and then it would 
> prompt me with the same prompt over again. I did this over and over again 
> and I haven't successfully entered a contact. The only success I had was 
> this contact entry that is a phone number but no name. It won't even let 
> me erase this because when I go to say command and press 53 to delete the 
> contact, it asks me to say the contact name. I say the number that's now 
> showing up on my contact list and it says my input is invalid and it will 
> not delete it now. GRRRRRRR. Please let me know if you have any solutions 
> to any of these issues or whether I need to just go get sighted 
> assistance. By the way, i should say that I can enter contacts through the 
> contact menu and doing it manual rather than by voice command. It's just 
> hard to punch in a number quickly enough and know how many times to press 
> the button in order to get the correct letter. I end up having to try the 
> entry at least 7 seven times if not more than that on longer names. This 
> is my first cell phone, so perhaps that will be something that comes more 
> quickly over time. Anyway, thanks for the help so far, it's been helpful 
> to speak with you. I need a little more guidance and then hopefully I'll 
> have most of the features on this phone figured out. Thanks again.
> Kate
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:17:31 -0700
> From: "tony sohl" <tonysohl at cox.net>
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] LG Phones
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> Hi Kate, this is Tony Sohl and I have a friend who has an LG phone but I 
> am not sure which one he has. He showed it to me on Sunday and if you have 
> the speaker turned on then most of the features of the phone will talk. I 
> hope this helps.
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:32:14 -0600
> From: Christopher Chaltain <cchaltain at austin.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> No they don't work with Talks, Mobile Speak or the other screen readers.
> You'll need to get a Symbian or Windows Mobile based phone to use one of
> the screen readers.
>
> BTW, my brother
>
> Kate wrote:
>> I don't know that I could afford it at the moment, but do these phones 
>> work with the mobile screen readers or not?
>>
>>
>> Kate
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: jkaldrich at qwest.net
>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:43:16 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>>
>>> Hi Kate and list,
>>>
>>> The problem with LG phones, you can only get the missed calls and your
>>> contacts.  Received calls, dialed calls lists are not accessible!  Text
>>> messaging is accessible with the NV2 but not every menu!
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> oh, wow, thank you very much that is helpful. Is there a way to hear 
>>> recent
>>> calls that were not missed? I figure if I can hear the missed calls I 
>>> ought
>>> to somehow be able to navigate to all calls whether missed, recieved or 
>>> even
>>> the calls I've made in the past.
>>>
>>> Please tell me if that is possible
>>> thanks,
>>> Kate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com
>>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:26:34 -0800
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>>>
>>>> Yes there. is.
>>>>
>>>> Press the button below the enter key that says "Please say a command."
>>>>
>>>> Then press number 4 and 7 on your keypad. That will tell you battery
>>>> status.
>>>>
>>>> #42 will tell you if you have voicemail. 43 tells you if you have any
>>>> messages, 44 gives you all of your missed calls, 45 gives you the time, 
>>>> 46
>>>> tells you how many bars you have.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully, this will help you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob Kaiser
>>>> PRESIDENT, NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND OF CALIFORNIA ORANGE COUNTY
>>>> CHAPTER
>>>> HOME PHONE (714)289-9114
>>>> CELL PHONE (714)323-5203
>>>> EMAIL ADDRESS: rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:15 AM
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just recently got the LG enV2 cell phone. I have been able to get
>>>> someone
>>>> to read enough of the manual to me so that the phone is pretty 
>>>> accessible
>>>> to
>>>> me. Its confusing to not have speech for a lot of functions beyond the
>>>> second layer of menues though. I'm wondering if there's a way for me to
>>>> have
>>>> my phone tell me things like battery status, or how many bars I have, 
>>>> or
>>>> what the time is? All those things would be useful to know but I can't
>>>> find
>>>> my way to any menu with such options. Is there a voice command to 
>>>> obtain
>>>> such information?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Kate
>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>> Suspicious message? There?s an alert for that.
>>>> http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_122008
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>
> -- 
> Christopher
>
> cchaltain at austin.rr.com
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:18:43 -0800
> From: "Dhunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [Electronics-talk inputting contacts
> with LGenV2
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>
> Kate,
> One thing you can do for entering contacts, is create a user name and
> password on the Verizon backup assistant. This is a handi web site verizon
> has that lets you enter and edit all of your contacts on the computer. 
> After
> you have entered a contqact you can ask the computer to update your phone,
> and it sincs with your phone wirelessly. Give Verizon a call, and they can
> tell you how to set it up. hope this helps
> Drew
>
> Drew Hunthausen
> 714-296-7111
> Mailto:Drewh at socal.rr.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [Electronics-talk inputting contacts with
> LGenV2
>
>
>
> One other question I have after struggling to enter a contact this morning
> is how to use the "say command" button and then the number 52 to enter
> contacts. It was really giving me the run around, sometimes telling me my
> valid info was invalid... cutting me off prematurely before I could even
> blurt out a whole phone number... mind you, i was speaking quickly without
> pauses. Also, sometimes the phone was just acting as though it was going
> into sleep mode while I was trying to speak... again, I was not pausing, I
> was speaking without pause. I would say what I wanted to enter and it 
> would
> act dead until I pressed the call or ok buttons and then it would prompt 
> me
> with the same prompt over again. I did this over and over again and I
> haven't successfully entered a contact. The only success I had was this
> contact entry that is a phone number but no name. It won't even let me 
> erase
> this because when I go to say command and press 53 to delete the contact, 
> it
> asks me to say the contact name. I say the number that's now showing up on
> my contact list and it says my input is invalid and it will not delete it
> now. GRRRRRRR. Please let me know if you have any solutions to any of 
> these
> issues or whether I need to just go get sighted assistance. By the way, i
> should say that I can enter contacts through the contact menu and doing it
> manual rather than by voice command. It's just hard to punch in a number
> quickly enough and know how many times to press the button in order to get
> the correct letter. I end up having to try the entry at least 7 seven 
> times
> if not more than that on longer names. This is my first cell phone, so
> perhaps that will be something that comes more quickly over time. Anyway,
> thanks for the help so far, it's been helpful to speak with you. I need a
> little more guidance and then hopefully I'll have most of the features on
> this phone figured out. Thanks again.
> Kate
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:47:07 -0700
> From: "James Aldrich" <jkaldrich at qwest.net>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>
> Hi again Kate,
>
> The NV2 , the phone you were mentioning is the most accessible LG phone to
> date since one can text message with it!  Otherwise, it is as accessible 
> as
> the newer LG phones as the VX5400, vx5500, VX8350 etc.
> One cannot text message independently with these three phones, only the 
> NV2
> has speech available for text messaging.  All of these phones have their 
> own
> speech system out of the box.  They don't work with Mobile Speak!  The 
> ones
> which do work with Mobile speak include
> Motorola Q9c,
> Smt 5800 by HTC,
> the Pantech PN820 I believe.  Those are the only Verizon phones which work
> with Mobile Speak as Smart Phones.  There are a couple of PDA phones but
> don't have numbers on them presently!  I'm looking into getting a phone
> which utilizes Mobile Speak since one can read more of the menus than the 
> LG
> phones.  Mobile Speak itself is $299 on top of the price of the phone. 
> One
> can get the Motorola Q9C phone for $29 with two year contract last I
> checked! Some are saying new phones will be available this coming year!
> We'll see!
>
> HTH
>
> Jim Aldrich
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>
>
>
> I don't know that I could afford it at the moment, but do these phones 
> work
> with the mobile screen readers or not?
>
>
> Kate
>
>
>
>> From: jkaldrich at qwest.net
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:43:16 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>
>> Hi Kate and list,
>>
>> The problem with LG phones, you can only get the missed calls and your
>> contacts.  Received calls, dialed calls lists are not accessible!  Text
>> messaging is accessible with the NV2 but not every menu!
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>
>>
>>
>> oh, wow, thank you very much that is helpful. Is there a way to hear
>> recent
>> calls that were not missed? I figure if I can hear the missed calls I
>> ought
>> to somehow be able to navigate to all calls whether missed, recieved or
>> even
>> the calls I've made in the past.
>>
>> Please tell me if that is possible
>> thanks,
>> Kate
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com
>> > To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:26:34 -0800
>> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>> >
>> > Yes there. is.
>> >
>> > Press the button below the enter key that says "Please say a command."
>> >
>> > Then press number 4 and 7 on your keypad. That will tell you battery
>> > status.
>> >
>> > #42 will tell you if you have voicemail. 43 tells you if you have any
>> > messages, 44 gives you all of your missed calls, 45 gives you the time,
>> > 46
>> > tells you how many bars you have.
>> >
>> > Hopefully, this will help you.
>> >
>> >
>> > Rob Kaiser
>> > PRESIDENT, NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND OF CALIFORNIA ORANGE COUNTY
>> > CHAPTER
>> > HOME PHONE (714)289-9114
>> > CELL PHONE (714)323-5203
>> > EMAIL ADDRESS: rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
>> > To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:15 AM
>> > Subject: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I just recently got the LG enV2 cell phone. I have been able to get
>> > someone
>> > to read enough of the manual to me so that the phone is pretty
>> > accessible
>> > to
>> > me. Its confusing to not have speech for a lot of functions beyond the
>> > second layer of menues though. I'm wondering if there's a way for me to
>> > have
>> > my phone tell me things like battery status, or how many bars I have, 
>> > or
>> > what the time is? All those things would be useful to know but I can't
>> > find
>> > my way to any menu with such options. Is there a voice command to 
>> > obtain
>> > such information?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Kate
>> > _________________________________________________________________
>> > Suspicious message? There?s an alert for that.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:08:07 -0800
> From: "Rob Kaiser" <rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> I don't believe so as they already have speech on them.
>
> Perhaps someone else might know the answer.
>
>
> Rob Kaiser
> PRESIDENT, NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND OF CALIFORNIA ORANGE COUNTY
> CHAPTER
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>
>
>
> I don't know that I could afford it at the moment, but do these phones 
> work
> with the mobile screen readers or not?
>
>
> Kate
>
>
>
>> From: jkaldrich at qwest.net
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:43:16 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>
>> Hi Kate and list,
>>
>> The problem with LG phones, you can only get the missed calls and your
>> contacts.  Received calls, dialed calls lists are not accessible!  Text
>> messaging is accessible with the NV2 but not every menu!
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>
>>
>>
>> oh, wow, thank you very much that is helpful. Is there a way to hear
>> recent
>> calls that were not missed? I figure if I can hear the missed calls I
>> ought
>> to somehow be able to navigate to all calls whether missed, recieved or
>> even
>> the calls I've made in the past.
>>
>> Please tell me if that is possible
>> thanks,
>> Kate
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com
>> > To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:26:34 -0800
>> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>> >
>> > Yes there. is.
>> >
>> > Press the button below the enter key that says "Please say a command."
>> >
>> > Then press number 4 and 7 on your keypad. That will tell you battery
>> > status.
>> >
>> > #42 will tell you if you have voicemail. 43 tells you if you have any
>> > messages, 44 gives you all of your missed calls, 45 gives you the time,
>> > 46
>> > tells you how many bars you have.
>> >
>> > Hopefully, this will help you.
>> >
>> >
>> > Rob Kaiser
>> > PRESIDENT, NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND OF CALIFORNIA ORANGE COUNTY
>> > CHAPTER
>> > HOME PHONE (714)289-9114
>> > CELL PHONE (714)323-5203
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>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
>> > To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:15 AM
>> > Subject: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I just recently got the LG enV2 cell phone. I have been able to get
>> > someone
>> > to read enough of the manual to me so that the phone is pretty
>> > accessible
>> > to
>> > me. Its confusing to not have speech for a lot of functions beyond the
>> > second layer of menues though. I'm wondering if there's a way for me to
>> > have
>> > my phone tell me things like battery status, or how many bars I have, 
>> > or
>> > what the time is? All those things would be useful to know but I can't
>> > find
>> > my way to any menu with such options. Is there a voice command to 
>> > obtain
>> > such information?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Kate
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:10:59 -0800
> From: "Rob Kaiser" <rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [Electronics-talk inputting contacts
> with LGenV2
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
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> Two things:
>
> You might want to retrain the commands to your voice.
>
> Also, if you pres the "please say a command" button, you can arrow up to
> where it says something about the name.
>
> You can then say "Create new."
>
>
> Rob Kaiser
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [Electronics-talk inputting contacts with
> LGenV2
>
>
>
> One other question I have after struggling to enter a contact this morning
> is how to use the "say command" button and then the number 52 to enter
> contacts. It was really giving me the run around, sometimes telling me my
> valid info was invalid... cutting me off prematurely before I could even
> blurt out a whole phone number... mind you, i was speaking quickly without
> pauses. Also, sometimes the phone was just acting as though it was going
> into sleep mode while I was trying to speak... again, I was not pausing, I
> was speaking without pause. I would say what I wanted to enter and it 
> would
> act dead until I pressed the call or ok buttons and then it would prompt 
> me
> with the same prompt over again. I did this over and over again and I
> haven't successfully entered a contact. The only success I had was this
> contact entry that is a phone number but no name. It won't even let me 
> erase
> this because when I go to say command and press 53 to delete the contact, 
> it
> asks me to say the contact name. I say the number that's now showing up on
> my contact list and it says my input is invalid and it will not delete it
> now. GRRRRRRR. Please let me know if you have any solutions to any of 
> these
> issues or whether I need to just go get sighted assistance. By the way, i
> should say that I can enter contacts through the contact menu and doing it
> manual rather than by voice command. It's just hard to punch in a number
> quickly enough and know how many times to press the button in order to get
> the correct letter. I end up having to try the entry at least 7 seven 
> times
> if not more than that on longer names. This is my first cell phone, so
> perhaps that will be something that comes more quickly over time. Anyway,
> thanks for the help so far, it's been helpful to speak with you. I need a
> little more guidance and then hopefully I'll have most of the features on
> this phone figured out. Thanks again.
> Kate
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:13:08 -0500
> From: Kate <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [Electronics-talk inputting contacts
> with LGenV2
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>
> Thanks Drew, that's excellent to know, I will be looking into that option 
> ASAP. Thanks!
>
> Kate
>
>
>
>> From: dhunthausen at gmail.com
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:18:43 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [Electronics-talk inputting contacts with 
>> LGenV2
>>
>> Kate,
>> One thing you can do for entering contacts, is create a user name and
>> password on the Verizon backup assistant. This is a handi web site 
>> verizon
>> has that lets you enter and edit all of your contacts on the computer. 
>> After
>> you have entered a contqact you can ask the computer to update your 
>> phone,
>> and it sincs with your phone wirelessly. Give Verizon a call, and they 
>> can
>> tell you how to set it up. hope this helps
>> Drew
>>
>> Drew Hunthausen
>> 714-296-7111
>> Mailto:Drewh at socal.rr.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [Electronics-talk inputting contacts with
>> LGenV2
>>
>>
>>
>> One other question I have after struggling to enter a contact this 
>> morning
>> is how to use the "say command" button and then the number 52 to enter
>> contacts. It was really giving me the run around, sometimes telling me my
>> valid info was invalid... cutting me off prematurely before I could even
>> blurt out a whole phone number... mind you, i was speaking quickly 
>> without
>> pauses. Also, sometimes the phone was just acting as though it was going
>> into sleep mode while I was trying to speak... again, I was not pausing, 
>> I
>> was speaking without pause. I would say what I wanted to enter and it 
>> would
>> act dead until I pressed the call or ok buttons and then it would prompt 
>> me
>> with the same prompt over again. I did this over and over again and I
>> haven't successfully entered a contact. The only success I had was this
>> contact entry that is a phone number but no name. It won't even let me 
>> erase
>> this because when I go to say command and press 53 to delete the contact, 
>> it
>> asks me to say the contact name. I say the number that's now showing up 
>> on
>> my contact list and it says my input is invalid and it will not delete it
>> now. GRRRRRRR. Please let me know if you have any solutions to any of 
>> these
>> issues or whether I need to just go get sighted assistance. By the way, i
>> should say that I can enter contacts through the contact menu and doing 
>> it
>> manual rather than by voice command. It's just hard to punch in a number
>> quickly enough and know how many times to press the button in order to 
>> get
>> the correct letter. I end up having to try the entry at least 7 seven 
>> times
>> if not more than that on longer names. This is my first cell phone, so
>> perhaps that will be something that comes more quickly over time. Anyway,
>> thanks for the help so far, it's been helpful to speak with you. I need a
>> little more guidance and then hopefully I'll have most of the features on
>> this phone figured out. Thanks again.
>> Kate
>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:22:11 -0700
> From: "Tiffany Gordon" <tlgordon at cox.net>
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] He Rob Laptop Question
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
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>
> Hey Rob. What do you know about laptops and their accessibility for the
> visually impaired especially with those who use Jaws and Windows Xp?
>
> Email: tlgordon at cox.net
>
> Tiffany
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Kaiser" <rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>
>
> I don't believe so as they already have speech on them.
>
> Perhaps someone else might know the answer.
>
>
> Rob Kaiser
> PRESIDENT, NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND OF CALIFORNIA ORANGE COUNTY
> CHAPTER
> HOME PHONE (714)289-9114
> CELL PHONE (714)323-5203
> EMAIL ADDRESS: rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>
>
>
> I don't know that I could afford it at the moment, but do these phones 
> work
> with the mobile screen readers or not?
>
>
> Kate
>
>
>
>> From: jkaldrich at qwest.net
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:43:16 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>
>> Hi Kate and list,
>>
>> The problem with LG phones, you can only get the missed calls and your
>> contacts.  Received calls, dialed calls lists are not accessible!  Text
>> messaging is accessible with the NV2 but not every menu!
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>>
>>
>>
>> oh, wow, thank you very much that is helpful. Is there a way to hear
>> recent
>> calls that were not missed? I figure if I can hear the missed calls I
>> ought
>> to somehow be able to navigate to all calls whether missed, recieved or
>> even
>> the calls I've made in the past.
>>
>> Please tell me if that is possible
>> thanks,
>> Kate
>>
>>
>>
>> > From: rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com
>> > To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:26:34 -0800
>> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>> >
>> > Yes there. is.
>> >
>> > Press the button below the enter key that says "Please say a command."
>> >
>> > Then press number 4 and 7 on your keypad. That will tell you battery
>> > status.
>> >
>> > #42 will tell you if you have voicemail. 43 tells you if you have any
>> > messages, 44 gives you all of your missed calls, 45 gives you the time,
>> > 46
>> > tells you how many bars you have.
>> >
>> > Hopefully, this will help you.
>> >
>> >
>> > Rob Kaiser
>> > PRESIDENT, NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND OF CALIFORNIA ORANGE COUNTY
>> > CHAPTER
>> > HOME PHONE (714)289-9114
>> > CELL PHONE (714)323-5203
>> > EMAIL ADDRESS: rkaiser4 at socal.rr.com
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Kate" <shamaniclivin1281 at hotmail.com>
>> > To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:15 AM
>> > Subject: [Electronics-talk] LG enV2
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I just recently got the LG enV2 cell phone. I have been able to get
>> > someone
>> > to read enough of the manual to me so that the phone is pretty
>> > accessible
>> > to
>> > me. Its confusing to not have speech for a lot of functions beyond the
>> > second layer of menues though. I'm wondering if there's a way for me to
>> > have
>> > my phone tell me things like battery status, or how many bars I have, 
>> > or
>> > what the time is? All those things would be useful to know but I can't
>> > find
>> > my way to any menu with such options. Is there a voice command to 
>> > obtain
>> > such information?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Kate
>> > _________________________________________________________________
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