[Electronics-talk] iPhone v Blackberry

[Baracco, Andrew W]

When I spoke to the Blackberry rep at CSUN he said that there were no
pplans to run Orator on any touch screen phones.

Andy


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[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:33 AM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] iPhone v Blackberry

Steve:

I do not think this is correct information.  When Orator for 
Blackberry was announced, it was stated that it would run on the 
Blackberry Curve 8900.  Later on, it was stated that Orator would run 
on any Blackberry with a qwerty keyboard.  So, I don't think the 
touch screen models are included -- I don't know that for a fact, but 
that is my educated guess.

Dave

At 04:32 PM 7/14/2009, you wrote:
>Andy,
>
>You are right, Orator will work on a new model of Blackberry that 
>has not been released yet as I understand it.  From what you and Jim 
>have said, it likely is a touch
>screen but I heard very little about their interface to a touch 
>screen but a lot regarding the I Phone.  It sounds as though we 
>better get used to touch screens.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Steve Jacobson
>
>On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:31:41 -0700, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:
>
> >The Blackberry has one model, the Storm, that is a touch screen, but
> >Orator will not work with that model.
>
> >Andy
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
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> >[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Jacobson
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:00 AM
> >To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> >Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] iPhone v Blackberry
>
> >Jim,
>
> >You are one up on me, then, I never heard that the Blackberry was a
> >touch screen.
>
> >On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:11:05 -0700, Jim Barbour wrote:
>
> >>Hey Steve,
>
> >>Yes, I was there and heard the presentation from Sarah and Rich.
>
> >>The reason I was trying to compare these two devices is that the
> >>blackberry (apparently, according to a recent Serotalk podcast) also
> >>uses a touchscreen for blind folks.
>
> >>Apparently, they were showing the orator and the blackberry at the
NFB
> >>convention, but I totally didn't think to go look at it.
>
> >>I didn't realize orator isn't out yet.
>
> >>Thanks Steve,
>
> >>Jim
>
> >>On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:25:17AM -0500, Steve Jacobson wrote:
> >>> Jim,
> >>>
> >>> >From what I have heard, the Blackberry and Orator will behave
> >similarly to other phones with screen readers such as Mobile Speak.
> >However, it is not out yet,
> >and
> >>> my understanding is that it needs to be used with a Blackberry
> >server.
> >>>
> >>> VoiceOver in the I Phone seems pretty complete, but the interface
is
> >completely different using a touch screen with gestures.  It should
also
> >be noted that the
> >touch
> >>> screen and the gestures used are altered when VoiceOver is running
so
> >the phone behaves differently than it does without VoiceOver running.
> >Since this is all
> >very
> >>> new, it is hard to really compare it with existing phones or even
> >with the Blackberry.  Were you at the R&D meeting on Tuesday evening?
> >There was a fairly
> >useful
> >>> and detailed presentation on the I Phone.  There is definitely a
> >learning curve to using it, but the feeling is that it can be done.
> >>>
> >>> Most of us feel less comfortable with the touch screen approach,
but
> >I think we have to be careful to not judge the approach until we have
> >some significant
> >>> collective experience with it.  Clearly some good thought has gone
> >into it.  I hope this helps some.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Steve Jacobson
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:56:29 -0700, Jim Barbour wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >Hey Folks,
> >>>
> >>> >I *think* this is on topic for this list.
> >>>
> >>> >Has anyone seen comparrisons between the blackberry orator and
> >>> >voiceover on the iPhone?
> >>>
> >>> >I'm trying to figure out how to choose between them.
> >>>
> >>> >Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> >Jim
> >>>
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