[Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line protection software
Christopher Chaltain
cchaltain at austin.rr.com
Wed Jun 24 01:19:59 UTC 2009
I generally agree, but with a software firewall it's pretty easy to know
when you have some suspicious software on your system trying to get out
on the network. I'm sure you can capture this from your hardware
firewall, but I've never taken the time to figure out how. It also
depends a lot on your network setup. A hardware firewall can keep your
system safe from attacks from outside your network but not from within.
My wife and two sons both have computers on my home network, so my
hardware firewall will keep my system safe from anyone outside my home
network, but it won't protect me from any attacks originating from my
family's PC's, and I can't keep them from contracting viruses!
If you have a laptop then a software firewall will travel with you and
help keep you safe when using networks when you travel. The absolute
safest would be to use both a hardware firewall and a software firewall.
Note that on my home PC, I don't use a software firewall, but I am
behind a hardware firewall. At work, where I use a laptop, I am required
to install a software firewall. This is to protect me when I travel with
my laptop as well as keep the spread of viruses down inside my company's
network.
On 6/22/2009 12:46 PM, Walter Cone wrote:
> A hardware firewall is the best solution as for firewalls. Most
> routers have a built in firewall. If you do not use a router then a
> hardware firewall would be the best solution because the hacker can
> not compromise your security as easy as a software firewall.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dewey bradley"
> <dewey.bradley at mchsi.com>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line protection
> software
>
>
>> How about hardware fire walls?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy"
>> <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line protection
>> software
>>
>>
>>>
>>> To my knowledge, the only third party firewalls that are known to
>>> work with JAWS are Kerio and Sygate Personal Firewalls, neither of
>>> which is supported any longer. Some third party firewalls will even
>>> prevent JAWS or other screen readers from working at all. Windows
>>> Firewall provides adequate protection for most users.
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Cone" <walt.cone at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:06 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line protection
>>> software
>>>
>>>
>>>> It doesn't have anything to do with outsiders using your firewall.
>>>> It has to do with say malware getting on your computer and having
>>>> free reign sending information out. Inbound works great it is the
>>>> outbound packets that have vary little or no protection.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:22 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line protection
>>>> software
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I guess the experts I've listened to are wrong.
>>>>> So far I've had no trouble with outsiders using Windows' firewall.
>>>>> 2 firewalls don't hurt; but not necessary
>>>>> Vince
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:45 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line protection
>>>>> software
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Windows firewalls are not all that great. Additional
>>>>>> protection is
>>>>>> usually recommended.
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net>
>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line protection
>>>>>> software
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dewey, Windows XP already has a firewall. So a second one is
>>>>>>> senseless--according to the experts I've heard and talked to.
>>>>>>> Vince
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dewey bradley"
>>>>>>> <dewey.bradley at mchsi.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:57 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line
>>>>>>> protection software
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll do that, thanks!
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "tony sohl" <tonysohl at cox.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:52 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line protection
>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi If you e-mail me directly I have the home version and I
>>>>>>>>> might be able
>>>>>>>>> to send it to you. my e-mail address is: tonysohl at cox.net
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dewey bradley"
>>>>>>>>> <dewey.bradley at mchsi.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:28 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line protection
>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I used to use avast, I tryed to re install It when I had my
>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>> formatted, They have the capsha code with no audeo link to It.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "tony sohl"
>>>>>>>>>> <tonysohl at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:04 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line
>>>>>>>>>> protection
>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi i believe they do and I have both AVG and Avast running
>>>>>>>>>>> at the same
>>>>>>>>>>> time. Avast picks up addware software better than AVG.
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dewey bradley"
>>>>>>>>>>> <dewey.bradley at mchsi.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 8:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line
>>>>>>>>>>> protection
>>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do they have a fire wall?
>>>>>>>>>>>> And is it any good?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "tony sohl"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <tonysohl at cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:41 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line
>>>>>>>>>>>> protection
>>>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried avg and yes that is a good one as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "joel Etra"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <joeletra at aol.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:08 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line
>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection
>>>>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried AVG?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Joel L. Etra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: dewey bradley <dewey.bradley at mchsi.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] anti virus and on line
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone recommend one that will work with jaws, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> junk?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I try to use this stuff that comes with my cable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet, but It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not useble.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When rehab got me this computer, they got norton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software, and I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shore you folks know It wont work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't do anything with this krap I have now, plus It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all my memmary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There must be something that will work and do a good job.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to just pay for something If I can find one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The cable company gives me fire wall software as well,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but again, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't use It.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a sighted person to install It for me, but I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do a thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with It.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help or ideas!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have jaws 9, and XP
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