[Electronics-talk] Purpose of List

Jim Barbour jbar at barcore.com
Thu Jun 25 15:44:53 UTC 2009 

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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:26:13AM -0700, Tom Evans wrote:
> Very good
> I then assume discussion of the new I phone that has a built in screen
> reader is fine.
> I would really like feedback from people on this before I buy.
> The phone on the surface looks good.  Is there a group that would test it
> and see if it is blind accessible?
> tom
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:21 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Purpose of List
> 
> Well, it looks like I owe everybody an apology, I thought that I had 
> officially declared phones off topic when I established the list, but 
> when I looked at the official description -- which I will put below, 
> phones are included.
> 
> I am sorry for any misunderstanding I have created.  I will also 
> clarify the point that the list has never been and isn't meant for 
> the discussion of access technology like screen readers, or 
> computer-related topics like antivirus software.
> 
> Here is the official description:
> 
> This list is intended for the sharing of information about, and 
> discussion of the accessibility of various consumer electronics 
> devices.  Sharing of information
> about, and discussion of MP3 players; cell phones and other 
> telephones; DVD players, receivers and other stereo and video 
> components; satellite and HD
> radios; and household appliances including microwaves, washers, 
> dryers, stoves, and the like; is appropriate and encouraged.  With 
> more and more devices
> having inaccessible controls or displays, a place to share 
> information and experiences is needed.  It is also hoped that this 
> list will divert such discussions
> from other NFB-sponsored lists, where it is not appropriate.
> 
> This list will also on occasion carry announcements and/or 
> information of importance to the NFB and its members and friends as a whole.
> 
> 
> 
> At 02:54 PM 6/24/2009, you wrote:
> >Having experienced the meltdown of several academic lists over the
> >decades I've used listservs, I'd appreciate information from David
> >Andrews indicating what appliances and devices of an electronic nature
> >are acceptable for discussion on this list.  (This is meant as a
> >serious question in order to clarify for me what is appropriate and
> >what is not appropriate for discussion.)
> >
> >I'll start by asking if anyone knows of the availability of an RFID
> >reader for RFID labels on containers, pill bottles, clothing, etc. (A
> >swiss company makes one, but it appears to be unavailable here; it is
> >pretty much like the VictorReader Stream in functionality, except that
> >it has a module for reading and writing to RFID labels.)
> >
> >For those who want to discuss accessibility of Verizon cell phones,
> >you can go to
> >
> >BlindusersVerizonPhones at yahoogroups.com
> >
> >They are very good at providing user experience and pointers for
> >accessibility issues.  If you ask, someone there can probably point to
> >websites for other providers.  (Like all lists, there are occasional
> >"bumps" in the conversation.)
> >
> >best
> >
> >Grover Zinn
> >
> >Grover A. Zinn
> >William H. Danforth Professor of Religion (emeritus)
> >former Associate Dean, College of Arts and Sciences
> >Oberlin College
> >Oberlin, OH 44074
> >440-775-8866 (department)
> >grover.zinn at oberlin.edu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Charlie Richardson wrote:
> >
> >>Not really, if this was like that you would have been off the list a
> >>long time ago.
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "The BlindTechs Network" 
> >><info at theblindtechsnetwork.com >
> >>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
> >><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org >
> >>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:20 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Purpose of List
> >>
> >>
> >>>its a trip how power trippin some of these people get out here in
> >>>email land. Like if we lived in IRan or something.
> >>>
> >>>Gabe Vega
> >>>CEO
> >>>The BlindTechs Network
> >>>www.theblindtechsnetwork.com
> >>>info at theblindtechsnetwork.com
> >>>623-565-9357 (voice)
> >>>(206) 203-4400 (Fax Phone)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:01 AM, David Andrews wrote:
> >>>
> >>>A reminder that this is the electronics-talk list, and is for the
> >>>discussion of accessibility to home and consumer electronics.  It
> >>>is  not for discussion of firewalls, antivirus and antispyware
> >>>programs, assistive technology and other such subjects.
> >>>
> >>>Please take this discussion elsewhere or I will need to take more
> >>>drastic action.
> >>>
> >>>David Andrews, Moderator
> >>>
> >>>
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