[Electronics-talk] Purpose of List

Sun Jun 28 14:41:55 UTC 2009

Hello Tom and list,

Go to:
http://www.serotalk.com
and
listen to tech chat 22 concerning the impact the I-phone will have on our 
community and podcast 17 which has a variety of topics but you will hear a 
demonstration of the I-phone.  I think this site is a good one to put into 
your favorites.  Download these to your Victor Stream if you have one!  I'm 
certain you will gain much info from these two presentations.

Jim Aldrich

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Evans" <tevans2003 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Purpose of List

Very good
I then assume discussion of the new I phone that has a built in screen
reader is fine.
I would really like feedback from people on this before I buy.
The phone on the surface looks good.  Is there a group that would test it
and see if it is blind accessible?
tom

-----Original Message-----
From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:21 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Purpose of List

Well, it looks like I owe everybody an apology, I thought that I had
officially declared phones off topic when I established the list, but
when I looked at the official description -- which I will put below,
phones are included.

I am sorry for any misunderstanding I have created.  I will also
clarify the point that the list has never been and isn't meant for
the discussion of access technology like screen readers, or
computer-related topics like antivirus software.

Here is the official description:

This list is intended for the sharing of information about, and
discussion of the accessibility of various consumer electronics
devices.  Sharing of information
about, and discussion of MP3 players; cell phones and other
telephones; DVD players, receivers and other stereo and video
components; satellite and HD
radios; and household appliances including microwaves, washers,
dryers, stoves, and the like; is appropriate and encouraged.  With
more and more devices
having inaccessible controls or displays, a place to share
information and experiences is needed.  It is also hoped that this
list will divert such discussions
from other NFB-sponsored lists, where it is not appropriate.

This list will also on occasion carry announcements and/or
information of importance to the NFB and its members and friends as a whole.

At 02:54 PM 6/24/2009, you wrote:
>Having experienced the meltdown of several academic lists over the
>decades I've used listservs, I'd appreciate information from David
>Andrews indicating what appliances and devices of an electronic nature
>are acceptable for discussion on this list.  (This is meant as a
>serious question in order to clarify for me what is appropriate and
>what is not appropriate for discussion.)
>
>I'll start by asking if anyone knows of the availability of an RFID
>reader for RFID labels on containers, pill bottles, clothing, etc. (A
>swiss company makes one, but it appears to be unavailable here; it is
>pretty much like the VictorReader Stream in functionality, except that
>it has a module for reading and writing to RFID labels.)
>
>For those who want to discuss accessibility of Verizon cell phones,
>you can go to
>
>BlindusersVerizonPhones at yahoogroups.com
>
>They are very good at providing user experience and pointers for
>accessibility issues.  If you ask, someone there can probably point to
>websites for other providers.  (Like all lists, there are occasional
>"bumps" in the conversation.)
>
>best
>
>Grover Zinn
>
>Grover A. Zinn
>William H. Danforth Professor of Religion (emeritus)
>former Associate Dean, College of Arts and Sciences
>Oberlin College
>Oberlin, OH 44074
>440-775-8866 (department)
>grover.zinn at oberlin.edu
>
>
>
>
>On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Charlie Richardson wrote:
>
>>Not really, if this was like that you would have been off the list a
>>long time ago.
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "The BlindTechs Network"
>><info at theblindtechsnetwork.com >
>>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org >
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:20 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Purpose of List
>>
>>
>>>its a trip how power trippin some of these people get out here in
>>>email land. Like if we lived in IRan or something.
>>>
>>>Gabe Vega
>>>CEO
>>>The BlindTechs Network
>>>www.theblindtechsnetwork.com
>>>info at theblindtechsnetwork.com
>>>623-565-9357 (voice)
>>>(206) 203-4400 (Fax Phone)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:01 AM, David Andrews wrote:
>>>
>>>A reminder that this is the electronics-talk list, and is for the
>>>discussion of accessibility to home and consumer electronics.  It
>>>is  not for discussion of firewalls, antivirus and antispyware
>>>programs, assistive technology and other such subjects.
>>>
>>>Please take this discussion elsewhere or I will need to take more
>>>drastic action.
>>>
>>>David Andrews, Moderator
>>>
>>>
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